[MikeR]

Don't think you need to get that expensive. Find something that uses Dyneema 75 in the core, strip off the cover where it's not needed and you're home free.

Cheers,

MikeR

[Rigga]

MikeR, on Oct 17 2005, 08:24 AM, said:

Don't think you need to get that expensive. Find something that uses Dyneema 75 in the core, strip off the cover where it's not needed and you're home free.

Cheers,

MikeR

Mike is right. A product like Warpspeed would be perfect for the forward halyards on the Soveral. However, shop around you may find a good price on Vectran. Prices for vectran have come down over the past 12 months.

[skins]

Really cool name guy....

Really.

[BH Junky]

Try typing in 'dyneema' under sporting goods in e-bay. Very cheap string!

[charlie don't surf]

Don't know what size you're looking at using, but remember that most high tech double braids cannot be spliced in sizes smaller than 1/4 (core and cover combined).

[Akaron]

use tylaska spool shackles instead of snap shackles

[505er]

Dyneema in general, and Warpspeed in particular, are great, and Warpspeed is particularly good in stripped cover applications. But Dyneema's creep makes it less than ideal for main and jib halyards. Yale Crystalyne (vectran) sells for less than Warpspeed at some shops, and is a better choice for main and jib halyards.

[charlie don't surf]

junior_ratt, on Oct 17 2005, 09:08 PM, said:

use tylaska spool shackles instead of snap shackles

Still need a splice when using the spool shackles. Generally use a Brummel or luggage tag splice (longer loop). Splicing retains line's strength better than using knots.

[ACk758]

If you're thinking Vectran for a halyard, I'd go with Yale Crystalyne -- really reasonably priced for the lack of stretch, a polyester jacket that's pretty resilient, and a coated core that will allow you to strip it.

V2 by Marlow has a tighter woven jacket (stronger/longer lasting) but it's more expensive, and a bitch to splice. Vectran core, good line.

Don't be afraid of Dyneema SK-75 though -- it's pretty much just as strong (slightly stronger in some cases) and might be a little more supple, so it will take turns better. Avoid Dyneema SK-60 though; it stretches.

Crystalyne is probably the best bet for the money.

[Riding Point]

junior_ratt, on Oct 17 2005, 09:08 PM, said:

use tylaska spool shackles instead of snap shackles

I actually don't like these ... I think they're hard to get off the corner of the sail (which ever corner it may be). Although, the loads I've used them with are much higher than that of a Soveral 33. Perhaps they will work with said application.

[NH13123]

renegade, on Oct 17 2005, 12:14 PM, said:

need to rpelace the halyards for a Soverel 33. Thought about Vectran. Any thoughts on if that is a good idea or there is somehting better?

Call 313-886-6094 and ask for Todd. He runs Thomas Hardware in Detroit, and will have everything you need to rig your Soverel.

[BtC]

Take a look at Samson Validator 2. It has a blended Vectran core and is significantly less expensive than an all Vectran line.

[us7070]

BtC, on Oct 18 2005, 11:33 AM, said:

Take a look at Samson Validator 2. It has a blended Vectran core and is significantly less expensive than an all Vectran line.

according to the Samson web site, Validator II has a 100% vectran core.

[Burnsy]

us7070, on Oct 18 2005, 11:43 AM, said:

according to the Samson web site, Validator II has a 100% vectran core.

Yep, vectran. We have plenty onboard.

[BtC]

I stand corrected.

[chaosmaster]

Hemp rope. Its worked for hundreds of years ... if it ain't broke, don't fix it! Arrrrrrrgggggghhhhhh!!!!

[judge]

Have only the roughest idea of a Sov 33, but exotics are great and entirely appropriate for the fore and aft sails. However I always use a simple double braid for spin halyards as the small amount of built in stretch provides a safety margin for the shock loads inherent in spinnaker use. Saves wear and tear on sails, rig, deck gear, etc. Also a lot cheaper so less painful to replace if at all dodgy. :P