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Scurvy Pete
post Nov 15 2005, 01:20 PM
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So we got into a friendly office debate on what the origins of the terms "Port" and "Starboard" for the sides of the boat/ship. I thought I would throw it up here and see what answers all you old salts and history buffs come up with.

One side says it was from the Romans, when boats had a sideboard type drop keel (not sure of correct term) attached to the gunnel on one side which prevented docking on that side - so the port side was the only side that could face the dock w/o crushing the keel board.

The other side says that up until 19th century "Starboard" and "Larboard" were used, but was often a cause for confusion and danger in high winds and seas as they sound almost the same. So the term "Port" was created circa 1850's to resolve this.

Is either side correct? I have no idea but assume the truth lies somewhere between them.
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- Scurvy Pete   Origins of "Port" and "Starboard"   Nov 15 2005, 01:20 PM
- - Bow Monkey   I had heard mostly the same thing, but not positiv...   Nov 15 2005, 01:30 PM
|- - Damp Freddie   QUOTE (Bow Monkey @ Nov 15 2005, 02:30 PM...   Nov 15 2005, 02:15 PM
- - Sailing Pro Shop   It is my understanding that the term STRABOARD com...   Nov 15 2005, 01:30 PM
- - 181Li   Prior to the invention of the stern post rudder, b...   Nov 15 2005, 01:32 PM
- - DigitalVibrations   From the word detective: Starboard, as all weeken...   Nov 15 2005, 01:33 PM
- - Rail Meat   I am no expert, but I believe both have a grain of...   Nov 15 2005, 01:35 PM
- - ghotio   Starboard is generally accepted as a corruption of...   Nov 15 2005, 01:37 PM
- - Scurvy Pete   Thanks. I had a feeling both ideas came into play...   Nov 15 2005, 01:46 PM
- - ghotio   Try this one for all you budding naval historians....   Nov 15 2005, 01:48 PM
|- - Presuming Ed   QUOTE (ghotio @ Nov 15 2005, 01:48 PM) Tr...   Nov 15 2005, 01:57 PM
||- - ghotio   QUOTE (Presuming Ed @ Nov 15 2005, 01:57 ...   Nov 15 2005, 02:05 PM
||- - Rail Meat   QUOTE (Presuming Ed @ Nov 15 2005, 01:57 ...   Nov 15 2005, 02:15 PM
||- - wraith   QUOTE (Presuming Ed @ Nov 15 2005, 01:57 ...   Nov 15 2005, 03:19 PM
||- - Wavedancer   Called "Devil" becaue it was the board w...   Nov 15 2005, 03:28 PM
|- - Bow Monkey   QUOTE (ghotio @ Nov 15 2005, 07:48 AM) Tr...   Nov 15 2005, 03:03 PM
- - NewportStormer   QUOTE (DigitalVibrations @ Nov 15 2005, 05...   Nov 15 2005, 02:14 PM
|- - Lima November   QUOTE (NewportStormer @ Nov 15 2005, 03:1...   Nov 15 2005, 03:00 PM
- - Ulfur   The viking ships had the rudder/steering oar on th...   Nov 15 2005, 03:16 PM
|- - wraith   QUOTE (Ulfur @ Nov 15 2005, 03:16 PM) The...   Nov 15 2005, 03:27 PM
- - LeoV   Same in Holland, Stuurboord, bakboord. This ports...   Nov 15 2005, 03:24 PM
|- - Lima November   QUOTE (LeoV @ Nov 15 2005, 04:24 PM) Same...   Nov 15 2005, 03:34 PM
- - Betty's Boy   Damp Freddie and Ulfur are correct. The steering b...   Nov 15 2005, 03:31 PM
- - Ulfur   Icelandic: stjornbordi, bakbordi   Nov 15 2005, 04:35 PM
- - boguing   Summarising from Admiral Smyth's 'Sailors ...   Nov 15 2005, 05:02 PM
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