[greyeyes]

don't know what the drug is...but here are a few pointers...don't go below deck, focus on the horizon, try to do something, and suck on a ginger candy or a piece of raw ginger if you have any ( ginger candies can be bought in most China towns)

[sailman]

This is all you need:

Dramamine

Will Museler

[born2sail]

Stugeron 15mg over the counter outside the U.S.

75 mg with perscription outsdie the U.S.

Supposedly, the USDA will OK the stuff inside the U.S. sometime later this year.

Works great especially for people who have trouble with the scope patch.

[charm]

HEard about some stuff out of NZ but no other details besides a great review. It sounds like some 'secret family recipe' that happens to work, another guest at a wedding I was at recently has used it for years, I'll try to get info.

[Sailing My Cubicle]

Sturgeron is good, but it'll make you a little loopy. And sleepy.

[longy]

I've forgotten the actual doseage, but the MD's should knpw - Phenergan & Ephedrine. Phenergan is in standard use against nausea, just had it to get my eyeballs boiled (laser), & common for preggie ladies too, so pretty benign. It is a mild downer, so you follow with a bit of Ephedrine to bring your status back to level.

[born2sail]

It's Stugeron. There's no 'r' after the 'u.'

It's medical name is cinnarizine. As I remember the doc on this forum said the stuff was first developed to help oncology patients with their post-chemo nauzea.

The 75mg dosage does make you groggy. The 15 mg stuff affects you less than a scope patch. A good friend of mine takes to 15's before sailing offshore and has no problems over a 36-48 hr period.

The exact wording on the box says< "2 tablets two hours before traveling. One further tablet every 8 hours as required."

I'd tell you what the 75 mg box has written on it, but it's in eye tallion.

[raftco]

While I don't remember the name of the product, a few years ago NASA developed and motion sickness remedy. Apparently 80% of austronauts suffer from motion sickness (so I've been told). Anyways, its a gel like substance that comes in a seringe (no needle). You apply it to your forearm (between your wrist and inner elbow; rub it in and that's it!

You can apply this product after you even feeling sick and underway. It works in only 10 to 15 minutes and it lasts for about 8 to 12 hours. NO SIDE EFFECTS that I could feel. I took this stuff a couple of times last summer while doing a transatlantic to northern europe and only when nasty weather was about to hit.

Here's the catch! It must be purchased with a prescription, and a batch only has a shelf life of six weeks.

[GRUMPY]

Sailing My Cubicle, on May 27 2004, 06:41 AM, said:

Sturgeron is good, but it'll make you a little loopy. And sleepy.

Stugies keep grumpette on deck through anything!

[NoStrings]

My g/f uses about a tablespoon of powdered ginger in a half cup of water. Seems to work for her, though at those concentrations I have a tendency to blow everything out of my stomach pre-emptively.

[SPORTSCAR]

Have used Stugeron 15Mg for years. It works every time - almost as well as that other tried and true sea sickness preventative: sitting under a tree.

[WillieCrear]

When I first sailed offshore (Minnesota lakes don't prepare one for the Gulf Stream), I booted every 10 minutes for virtually the entire 22 hours of the 1976 Miami-Nassau race. It was a real challenge, to say the least. Really came to understand the old saying, "With seasickness, first you are afraid that you will die, then you are afraid that you won't."

In later SORCs, I tested the Phenergan/Ephedrine combination, but found I couldn't think straight with the Ephedrine in my system, so I just used the Phenergan. Worked pretty well, I only took it if I was getting sick. The regimen went something like this: get the drugs, get a can of real Coke, go to the leeward rail, do a 'maintenance' barf so that I wouldn't chuck out the drugs 5 minutes after taking it, chug the can of Coke, jump on the helm (that's the 'horizon' thing). I was usually feeling human again after 20 minutes.

The Phenergan was so powerful, we often took only 1/2 a dose. It was a prescription drug, so I told others on the crew that they could use my 'stash', but only if they had tested it on themselves on shore first. One of our female crew members took 1/2 a tablet, crawled into the boat van, and slept for 24 straight hours.

Also tried Transderm-Scop (the patch) during that period, but dropped it since one has to put it on well before leaving the dock, and it gives you the worst case of dry mouth that makes your most violent hangover seem benign.

Later, tried Marezine, and that also worked well for me, in combination with the Coke. Didn't get as sleepy.

By about 1986, I found that my reaction to wave sets improved, and usually I never needed drugs, even in a small powerboat rolling around in an oily, leftover seaway.

At the end of the day, the remedy that will work for any particular person is personal; what works for one person will not work for another, or the reaction to the drug may be too severe. My thing is, test any remedy on shore first, in case one has a very bad reaction to it, medical care is close at hand.

One of the things that I find interesting is, people really do turn green when they are getting seasick. There is a 'halo' effect to barfing, one does feel better for a little while. When we were racing offshore, I always felt sorry for the rookies on the boat that were dealing with seasickness for the first time. I found that I could help them out by barfing right next to them; usually put them over the top, getting over that 'macho' thing they were dealing with by trying not to barf.

It's been awhile...never heard of some of the stuff mentioned by Guest Oncologist, above.

Good times.

[Jem]

stugeron pre emptively or crystalized ginger should the nausea start.

keep some crystallized ginger on your boat

J

[Jason AUS]

charm, on May 26 2004, 09:08 PM, said:

HEard about some stuff out of NZ but no other details besides a great review. It sounds like some 'secret family recipe' that happens to work, another guest at a wedding I was at recently has used it for years, I'll try to get info.

Charm, you are talking about Paihia Bombs. Call Paihia Pharmacy on 09 402 7034 (I don't know what the country code is for the land of the Wrong White Crowd). They ship o/s. Ask for Murray or Jillian.

It's a 24 hour treatment (a downer, then an upper). Get them in the right order. Bugger it up, and the race comittee will be able to pinpoint your location from the sound of your eyelids crashing down.

And apparently there is enough caffeine in the upper to make them recommend avoiding coffee whilst on this stuff. Something about making you go loopy.....

That explains SOME, yet not all of my actions....

[dickie greenleaf]

We have used 'Seabands' on our boat in the past - You can buy them in any pharmacy, and I think they are 5 to 7 bucks.

No drugs, and you can wear them as long as you like.

They have been suggested by physicians for pregnant women who are suffering from nausea, and they have worked (most of the time) for anyone on our boat.

They come in pretty colors and will make you look like Bjorn Borg.

[7.9 sailor]

Certain sea states will set me off. I will not be denied sailing because of it though. I learned to hurl from my dog. He doesn't fight it. Just a quick toss, usually with some noise, lick his lips some and trek on....
I perfected this practice on a wild Chi-Mac when just as lunch sammiches were served out, I felt the urge. Stepped to looard between 2 young crew and spewed. I felt a whole lot better, they were put off their feed. The skip, who knew my condition and technique, calmly finished his sammy and asked for another one. Achieved a new nickname of 'Chum'.