 Question of the Week 4/9/07, Challenged |
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 Apr 9 2007, 03:09 AM
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Anarchist  Group: Moderators Posts: 4225 Joined: 20-September 03 Member No.: 5  |
Question of the Week
Challenged Now that the America's Cup is heating up, let's cut right to the chase - which team do you think will emerge as the challenger, and why? Have fun. 04/09/06 |
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Apr 9 2007, 03:18 AM
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Anarchist Group: Members Posts: 491 Joined: 15-February 06 From: Wellington Member No.: 9721 |
I think it will come down to ETZ and BMW Oracle.
Both are Kiwi Teams, but the one form Aotearoa will take it in a tight battle. |
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Apr 9 2007, 03:29 AM
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Anarchist Group: Members Posts: 2790 Joined: 9-January 04 From: Santa Barbara Member No.: 692 |
The Flightless Birds.
Kiwi's. |
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Apr 9 2007, 04:40 AM
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Anarchist Group: Members Posts: 79 Joined: 2-August 06 From: SoCal Member No.: 12521 |
Beemer Oracle! Let's USA back in it!
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Apr 9 2007, 04:40 AM
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Anarchist Group: Members Posts: 736 Joined: 17-January 07 From: on the floor of the Pink Pony, looking up your skirt Member No.: 15615 |
I gots to like the BMW Oracle team.
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Apr 9 2007, 09:27 AM
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Anarchist Group: Members Posts: 117 Joined: 21-April 06 From: Howth, Dublin, Ireland Member No.: 10823 |
I`ll go with ETNZ
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Apr 9 2007, 09:39 AM
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Anarchist Group: Members Posts: 10028 Joined: 27-January 06 Member No.: 9325 |
kiwi , just not sure which .......................
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Apr 9 2007, 09:44 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 1-December 04 From: germany Member No.: 4033 |
Sorry but BMWO is German :-)
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Apr 9 2007, 09:58 AM
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Anarchist Group: Members Posts: 2482 Joined: 14-March 06 From: Valencia, Spain. Member No.: 10158 |
New Zealand have immense amounts of speed but maybe it's addled their brains and is affecting their tactical and crew decisions. BMW/Oracle have the upwind speed and bad tactics combined with downwind speed and bad crew handling. Who will it be? Well if these two don't sort themselves out then Mascalzone may just fuck the both of them. They have themselves pretty well sorted out now and are starting to show very good pace on all points of sailing apart from some iffy tactical decisions. Keep an eye on Desafia Espaņol as well because they are fast and just need to sort out their racing tactics. Too many rash and spontanious decisions for my liking in the ACT13. So far it looks like ETNZ for me but who knows.
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Apr 9 2007, 10:17 AM
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Anarchist Group: Members Posts: 1736 Joined: 14-June 05 From: 43.4š N 8.25š W (esto es ESPAŅA cabrones) Member No.: 6292 |
I have no idea, but if Desafío doesn't make it, I hope TNZ does...
Or maybe an italian team, so the cup stays in Europe. |
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Apr 9 2007, 11:03 AM
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Anarchist Group: Members Posts: 625 Joined: 4-January 07 From: Curled up in the lee of Bum Island Member No.: 15293 |
C'mon The Rascals!
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Apr 9 2007, 12:34 PM
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Anarchist Group: Members Posts: 5343 Joined: 2-January 04 Member No.: 353 |
Alinghi to retain. I don't care about the challenger, because I used to date one of the team at Alinghi, and I've got $500 on it against that Kiwi retard, onephatdiva. I'd hope for a TNZ -Vs- Alinghi.
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Apr 9 2007, 01:12 PM
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Anarchist Group: Members Posts: 7767 Joined: 9-June 04 From: Leaving a daughters bedroom, is it yours? Member No.: 2223 |
Teaky oh teaky
You can't beat me in monopoly let alone a real game (lets be honest the AC is a game), so pucker up B'Arch or shall I say your $$ pinko dollars. A (NZ) lingi is not beating ETNZ (For the record I have every other team in this beat as well but they still don't matter) |
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Apr 9 2007, 01:23 PM
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Anarchist Group: Members Posts: 1580 Joined: 8-January 04 From: Long Island Sound Member No.: 677 |
If all depends on who shows up. If the Oracle in Act 13 does they will not win and New Zealand will whoop 'em real good. Oracle made mistakes that most beer can racers couldn't do. Perhaps they had the "C" team in (it couldn't have been their "B" team because they were sooo bad). I'd like to think they were sandbagging but Larry does not seem to be the kind of guy that likes to lose at anything especially something that he is spending $300 mil on.
It will come down to Oracle vs TNZ. It'll be a coin toss. I'd love to see Oracle beat Alinghi and bring the Cup back. Hey everyone has dreams and it will be a long shot. |
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Apr 9 2007, 01:28 PM
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Anarchist Group: Members Posts: 14201 Joined: 10-September 04 From: the 'River of Light', Tomorrow-morrow Land Member No.: 3212 |
QUOTE (Mid @ Apr 9 2007, 07:39 PM)  kiwi , just not sure which ....................... hey everyone , question is challenger, ie winner of the LV Cup alKiwinghi is not in that Cup ! ------------------ NZ for me. I like how AC racing seems to be closer and have more winners ( eg act 13), or in an AC Cup final are things the same as ever ? |
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Apr 9 2007, 01:29 PM
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Anarchist Group: Members Posts: 5942 Joined: 19-January 06 Member No.: 9187 |
I think it's a harder call than most times, because teams like Desafio and Mascalzone, which I wouldn't have considered last year, have clearly improved a lot, whereas NZ seems to have gone backwards. Luna Rossa has never looked as good as it should IMO and may still be a dark horse, whereas I suspect BMW O was none too pleased with the way ACT 13 ended.
I'll stick my neck out and give the last four as Desafio, Mascalzone, Luna Rossa and BMW Oracle, with the Spanish taking it if they keep their cool and BMW O if Desafio makes too many mistakes. |
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Apr 9 2007, 02:01 PM
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Anarchist Group: Members Posts: 2482 Joined: 14-March 06 From: Valencia, Spain. Member No.: 10158 |
Nice call Marion. But don't forget those bloody kiwis. they can put Moaori voodoo on the others you know. I think it has something to do with live volcanoes mixed with Spanish beer but I may be wrong about the volcanoes..
PS. Did you get my write up. I put it on the server last night about 10.00PM local. Cheers. |
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Apr 9 2007, 02:07 PM
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Anarchist Group: Members Posts: 5942 Joined: 19-January 06 Member No.: 9187 |
QUOTE (gusmus @ Apr 9 2007, 02:01 PM) Nice call Marion. But don't forget those bloody kiwis. they can put Moaori voodoo on the others you know. I think it has something to do with live volcanoes mixed with Spanish beer but I may be wrong about the volcanoes.. PS. Did you get my write up. I put it on the server last night about 10.00PM local. Cheers. I don't think the Kiwis are going to do anything like as well as people expect and I too expected until this last week. I've e-mailed and PMd you!! |
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Apr 9 2007, 02:54 PM
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Anarchist Group: Members Posts: 2482 Joined: 14-March 06 From: Valencia, Spain. Member No.: 10158 |
Got them. PM,d you back.
I still won't write of the kiwis until the bloody boat sinks. By the way. What the hell is this Esmerelda race? I think it's being organised by the super yachts for the 16th 17th and 18th but I have no more details apart from that press boats are TBA. Find out if you can because I can't. |
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Apr 9 2007, 02:59 PM
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Anarchist Group: Members Posts: 2043 Joined: 26-December 03 Member No.: 87 |
I think it will be the American T-Hutch that will lead the way into the finals against Alinghi. That is my call.
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Apr 9 2007, 03:01 PM
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Anarchist Group: Members Posts: 1269 Joined: 9-December 05 From: Ireland Member No.: 8615 |
tzn or oracle - will come down to it on the day, TNZ also arguably had some of thier b team in with ainslie at the helm, not that hes exactly b team material
the fleet racing gave a good measure of boat speed, however once it comes to the match racing alot of its going to be prestart, which we didnt get a chance to see in Act 13 - seeing as the boatspeeds quite similar for alot of boats, it'll come down to whos got the better afterguard - and what conditions suit the team! which reminds me of a question i've had for awhile - are they allowed swop boats in the middle of the LV series? or even in between races? or do they have to declare before hand? |
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Apr 9 2007, 03:05 PM
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Anarchist Group: Members Posts: 263 Joined: 26-February 07 Member No.: 16507 |
I believe they are only allowed to switch between rounds unless it is an emergency, but I could be totally wrong. As an American I want Oracle to go all the way so they'll have the chance to bring the cup here again, but my gut tells me ETNZ. Wouldn't mind that either, as no one wants it more than the Kiwis.
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Apr 9 2007, 03:37 PM
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Anarchist Group: Members Posts: 81 Joined: 18-May 06 From: Hawaii Member No.: 11240 |
The Chinese of Pub39
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Apr 9 2007, 04:21 PM
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Anarchist Group: Members Posts: 357 Joined: 19-October 04 Member No.: 3630 |
Which boat has the Whomper on it? I vote for that one.
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Apr 9 2007, 05:34 PM
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Anarchist Group: Members Posts: 1282 Joined: 4-May 04 From: Del Mar, Ca Member No.: 1903 |
QUOTE (Peacefrog @ Apr 9 2007, 10:59 AM) I think it will be the American T-Hutch that will lead the way into the finals against Alinghi. That is my call. Agreed...but look for the South Africans to be right there too. They have good pace, as long as they get good starts in the Matches, spoiler...anyone...bueller.... |
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