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  1. I'm a sailor at 19 years. i have been sailing for 10 years. before I started sailing i was playing football. when i was playing football there was an sailor in my class, that I and the other football-players was bullying. but a day when i said to him, that it not was hard to sail and it was really like shit to be a sailor, He sayed; "what do you know about sailing, and I was blank. so I started sailing and then it was fun and I keepped on sailing. AND I LOVE IT!!, but now i'm beeing bullyied.

     

    Bullying is the use of force or coercion to abuse or intimidate others. The behavior can be habitual and involve an imbalance of social or physical power.It can include verbal harassment orthreat, physical assault or coercion and may be directed repeatedly towards particular victims, perhaps on grounds of race, religion, gender, sexuality, or ability. If bullying is done by a group, it is called mobbing. The victim of bullying has been referred to as a "target".

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    Rigid wings on big cats are dangerous.The question of safety in all forms of sport should over ride all other considerations. Today motorcycle racing still takes lives, although not as frequently as in the early days before body amour and best practice track design. Changes to passive systems like those just mentioned are robust and dont require expert skills to work. The active systems are the areas that require intervention and control, at least the rider of a 150hp moto GP bike can control the power of the machine via the throttle , not so the winged cats. The AC 72 cats are equipped with massive solid wings that are like a V12 engine that once started is running at full throttle. The active areas lack suitable control, passive design changes to the hulls, water foils and such will only increase the point at which the whole thing gets unstable, however this means that the big crash will come at much higher speeds and energy loads. One answer is to increase the reserve buoyancy and strength of the structure but again you just push the whole problem up the energy curve. Yachts must be able to maneuver in all kinds of conditions and be able to adjust the power of the propulsion system to enable these maneuvers to be done in safety. Catamarans and high performance yachts generally dont like gybing its their weakness both the 72,s that have capsized did so while attempting gybes. Putting spoilers on the tops of the wings may assist in pushing the control limit into higher wind strengths, again the crash will come when the projected area of the wing over comes the hulls ability to resist the tripping moment (reserve buoyancy used up). The rigid wings are unable to be adequately depowered due to their design and construction, they can only twist a little and most importantly they are unable to be reefed. The answer is replacing the rigid wing with a semi rigid reefable wing, while not as powerful in terms of lift per unit area, these wings can be massive and impressive in light conditions and made much smaller in real time in the heavy weather. Gybing downwind can be done with much greater control due to the ability of the soft wing to twist and depower at the top of the span. In a reefed configuration the tripping force being applied to the vessel is reduced this reduces all the loads, in effect the crews would have the ability to throttle up or down by way of simple adjustments. The technology is available.(see advancedwingsystems.com) The boat must be able to alter its rig geometry to accommodate all the conditions the more flexible the systems are the greater the safety margins are. So people do the numbers and remember that the wind and the weather can change in a heart beat. Solid wings belong on planes not boats, planes dont gybe or capsize.

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    After discussions with racers the Swiftsure International Yacht Race organizers have decided to establish at least two division splits in the Cape Flattery Unlimited Class of Swiftsure. Even more divisions will be considered if a large enough number of boats enter the Cape Flattery Unlimited Race.

     

    Having boats more closely matched in their PHRF rating will make for better competition. Because boats with similar ratings are typically closer together, it will mean that the yachts will be racing against each other in similar winds and currents. This becomes especially important given the changes in weather and sea conditions that occur as the race progresses.

     

    The Cape Flattery Unlimited Race is for yachts rated 39 PHRF and faster that do not wish to participate in the Swiftsure Lightship Classic which rounds a mark set on Swiftsure Bank in the mouth of Juan de Fuca. The rounding mark for the Cape Flattery Unlimited Race is Neah Bay just east of Cape Flattery.

     

    Please spread the word among our racing friends.

     

    Vern

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    Swiftsure International Yacht Race, May 25 to 27

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    blog-0641713001361893022.jpgMy Catalina 22, has an iron fin keel. I got it at a considerable discount because the keel bolts were very rusty. It came on a two axle trailer. By lifting up the hull with a construction scaffold and raising the supports, I was able to remove the keel.and clean up the joint area. Sealant had been applied several times.

    On the inside of the hull, the bolt, (really studs from all thread,) holes were tapered. My intent is to pack fiberglass around a temporary waxed smooth bolt to provide a cylindrical sturdy stub keel mounting. I have heard of this procedure with progressively tightening on the partially hardened GRP to form a good attachment with the hull.

    Prior to keel work.one should step and tension the mast, IMHO. Also the keel should be supported by the hull, Resting the boat with most of the weight on the keel, stresses the hull the wrong way compared to the way it is stressed when floating.

    Many fiberglass boats can be saved by skilled attention to rust problems.

    Good sailing!

     

     

    The existing keel is cast iron. I thought that Mars Keel was strictly a lead foundry. Re-engineering for a lead keel will be a production.

    Seems to me that re-using the cast iron keel is the only hope for a 4KSB.

     

     

    Source: C-22 Keel Bolts

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    The first i550 in Africa is now under construction. So far we have 3 boats under way and we are looking for more African builders to join in!! I have a pretty detailed blog going at Http://www.471.sailspace.org/wp or https://www.facebook.com/DontMentionWhiteElephants and really hope to see some other builders join me. South Africa is desperately short of modern boats and at only 18ft the i550 is something many of us can aspire to own.

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    Somtimes I thick this runnes ranpante amoungue poesteres heare on SA. Mabey we cane worke tegether and minimixe ist affecte. Exspecialley withe the Hollidays appon us, wich is a sorse of troubelle foure manny. Heare our somtippes I fonde, notte siure they worke butte ist worth a try. what do we halve to loose??? Shaire any tippes you halve. Lettes alle try to be happiere!

     

     

    1. Start each day with expectation.

    If there's any big truth about life, it's that it usually lives up to (or down to) your expectations. Therefore, when you rise from bed, make your first thought: "something wonderful is going to happen today." Guess what? You're probably right.

    2. Take time to plan and prioritize.

    The most common source of stress is the perception that you've got too much work to do. Rather than obsess about it, pick one thing that, if you get it done today, will move you closer to your highest goal and purpose in life. Then do that first.

    3. Give a gift to everyone you meet.

    I'm not talking about a formal, wrapped-up present. Your gift can be your smile, a word of thanks or encouragement, a gesture of politeness, even a friendly nod. And never pass beggars without leaving them something. Peace of mind is worth the spare change.

    4. Deflect partisan conversations.

    Arguments about politics and religion never have a "right" answer but they definitely get people all riled up over things they can't control. When such topics surface, bow out by saying something like: "Thinking about that stuff makes my head hurt."

    5. Assume people have good intentions.

    Since you can't read minds, you don't really know the "why" behind the "what" that people do. Imputing evil motives to other people's weird behaviors adds extra misery to life, while assuming good intentions leaves you open to reconciliation.

    6. Eat high quality food slowly.

    Sometimes we can't avoid scarfing something quick to keep us up and running. Even so, at least once a day try to eat something really delicious, like a small chunk of fine cheese or an imported chocolate. Focus on it; taste it; savor it.

    7. Let go of your results.

    The big enemy of happiness is worry, which comes from focusing on events that are outside your control. Once you've taken action, there's usually nothing more you can do. Focus on the job at hand rather than some weird fantasy of what might happen.

    8. Turn off "background" TV.

    Many households leave their TVs on as "background noise" while they're doing other things. The entire point of broadcast TV is to make you dissatisfied with your life so that you'll buy more stuff. Why subliminally program yourself to be a mindless consumer?

    9. End each day with gratitude.

    Just before you go to bed, write down at least one wonderful thing that happened. It might be something as small as a making a child laugh or something as huge as a million dollar deal. Whatever it is, be grateful for that day because it will never come again.

     

    Gottem heare: http://www.inc.com/geoffrey-james/9-daily-habits-that-will-make-you-happier.html?goback=.gde_35975_member_182779351

     

     

     

    The greater part of our happiness or misery depends on our dispositions, and not our circumstances.

    Martha Washington

     

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    I am trying to learn new tricks. I have purchased a MFG Shark made in 1974 and would like to obtain any info available about her. I purchased it to modify into a powered dive platform. After looking her over, I decided I had to learn something about sailing. I have the bug to atleast try it and this is the boat I want to do it on. There were fins that came with the boat but were removed. They were on the inside and outside of the floats originally. How important are they? JZ

  3. First of all, I extend my deepest condolences to the families of the two people aboard Wingnuts-it is an awful tragedy.

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    I also heard about the U-20 sinking and all of this has brought up interesting thoughts both here and on boatdesign. Some people want to blame the design of the Kiwi 35 for the deaths of the crew even though the small amount of evidence that is out now seems to show that something terrible happened to those two people that didn't happen to the others on board. Thats one thing to consider.

    Another is this: the common cure all among safety freaks in the monohull community appears to be that the Kiwi 35 was too tender, it was too likely to capsize, it needed more lead. That because of this it was "unseaworthy".

    But wait just a minute-did you see the picture of the upsidedown boat and the righted boat? Did you notice that it was floating?

    Remember the old mono vs multi argument: " Yeah the multihull will capsize but the leadbelly will sink". But the Kiwi 35 did not sink. In fact, it behaved very similarly to a multihull that had capsized. And as tragic as the loss of two lives is 6 others survived w/o injuries.

    Maybe instead of mandating that all monohulls are self-righting(which is probably a good idea in most cases) a "class" of high speed ,lightweight monohulls(of different lengths) that may capsize could be permitted as long as the boat can be shown to float after a capsize/inversion. These monohulls would have exactly the same characteristics as racing multihulls except that some of them would carry some lead-but they would not sink.And many could be designed to be rightable with action by the crew.

    And multihulls race everywhere and are considered seaworthy by most people even though they can capsize.

    Worth pondering ....

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    I may have accidently come up with a solution to make "winged" boats safer and practical by eliminating tripping over the down wing which would also eliminate any possibilty of the thing remaining inverted while providing increased protection for the crew on deck. See the two very rough sketches posted on this date. I may build a large test model to evaluate this idea and wings in general. A friend in NZ may also pursue a test model. One thing is plainly evident: there is rampant ,uninformed speculation about the K35 and other winged boats even among naval architects. A carefully done test model could put that kind of crap to rest. Of course, if the investigation is thorough and not a rubber stamped anti-wing lynch mob maybe the model wouldn't be required. I would hope that solutions such as the one I have showed would be considered rather than just banning a whole group of high performance monohulls! We'll see...

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    Once upon a time....

     

    Okay that was stupid. However, as the ever-accident prone victim of boat abuse - there are few ways to adequately introduce myself.

     

    I started out as a dingy sailor when I was young. Once highschool hit, there was less sailing and more hockey being done and it wasn't until University that I truely discovered keel-boat racing.

     

    Currently I have a "stretched" rotator cuff (whatever that means - at the moment, it just means it hurts to wave and yank on things [insert dirty sailor joke here]), and bum shoulder (from going overvboard).

     

    I love sailing more than anything else. I live to be on the water (whether sunny or rainny, windy or beer-draining) and love to be part of the team. Sailors are incredible people and I'm lucky to name many of them among my friends.

     

    Here's to all of you!

     

    And a toast, especially, to the two sailors who lost their lives. Mark and Suzanne, I did not know you, but - from the postings I have read - you were well loved and respected among the sailing fleets. There is no easy way to bid a sailor, who died on the water, goodbye. Sometimes we can do everything right and it's still not enough. However, while some may cope by offering condolences, and others may cope by trying to justify/find reasons why you died, the fact remains....you were experienced sailors who did everything they could to ensure the safety of your crew. My thoughts are with your friends, family and crew members as they cope with this loss.

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    I would like to share some photos of my restoration of my girlfriend Tina 2008-2011

    if there is anyone out there with photos of her before 2005 i would like to see them

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    Is anyone else tracking this Velux 5 Oceans Race? What's up with the total lack of media coverage? Are they trying to keep the good stuff for some later post race movie release?

    Really difficult to stay interested when the intel lags so far behind. Blog posts are great to read if you have the time, Vendee did it so much better. I don't want to dump on

    the guys racing ( after all this is solo Open 60 racing) but man this is like watching molasses on a cold winters day! I'd be pissed if I were out there hanging my ass on the line

    with no one else paying attention. IMOCA has obviously pushed this race aside in favor of the Barcelona Race. At least there's some one from our side winning the first leg as in

    kicking major butt ! Me thinks Brad is in a league of his own this time round.

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    MALTESE TASK FORCE

    02 September 2010

     

    Whilst the major noise surrounding the 2010 Rolex Middle Sea Race will resonate around Esimit Europa 2's anticipated assault on the course record, there is much more to the race than the maxi component. The Maltese participation is a crucial element in the success and popularity of the race. After watching foreign yachts secure overall victory in seven out of the eight races so far sponsored by Rolex, there is a feeling amongst the locals that it is time to redress the balance. When the 606-nautical mile race starts on 23 October, there will be a veritable posse of Maltese yachts chasing the seemingly elusive crown.One of those yachts is even named Elusive II; the weapon of choice for Arthur Podesta, a thirty-time veteran of the race, which is now approaching its 31st edition. Podesta's record is enviable. No other major 600-nm offshore course - Rolex Fastnet, Rolex Sydney-Hobart or Newport-Bermuda - can boast a participant that has competed in every race since its inception. Immensely proud of his continuing achievement, which includes being a three-time winner as crew, Podesta takes nothing for granted and is happy enough to make the start-line each year. Do not confuse that with lack of ambition. Podesta and his crew, which usually has its backbone formed by his three children - Maya, Aaron and Christoph - push as hard as anyone for the win. In 2008, they finished third overall, a mere forty-minutes off the corrected time pace.

     

    Another family affair involves the last Maltese winners and a family name synonymous with the colourful history of Malta's flagship sailing event. In 2002, John Ripard Jr and Andrew Calascione sailed Market Wizard to first overall. This year they are back again, with a neat twist as Ripard explains, "my brother-in-law Andrew Calascione and I will co-skipper Andrew's very recent acquisition Jaru, which is a J-133. We'll have with us a crew comprised almost entirely of direct family, being: my two sons, Sebastian and Thomas; Andrew's two sons, Daniel and Marc; plus, my sister Rachel's son, Luke Scicluna, and, my sister Erika's son, Sam Pizzuto. My father, John Ripard Sr [winner of the inaugural race in 1968], will have six grandchildren on the same boat!" The remaining three crew are Benji Borg, Sebastian Ripard's 49er Olympic campaign partner, John Santy from the UK and an Australian, Jordi Smith.

     

    Another local with an eye on the main prize is Jonas Diamantino embarking on his tenth race and, once again, with Comanche Raider II Gasan Mamo. Diamantino exudes optimism ahead of each race; firmly believing he has the crew and the boat should the conditions favour them. This should not be seen as making excuses ahead of game-time for a poor finish. However good the handicap system, there is always an element of chance that the weather conditions will suit one end of the fleet or the other. That is the accepted nature of long-distance yacht racing. In recent years the big boats have held the upper hand. 2008 provides the sole glimmer of hope since 2002 for the smaller yachts, when the First 40.7, Spirit of Ad Hoc, took the crown.

     

    Also in the same camp as Diamantino is Jonathon Gambin, with Ton Ton Surfside. Gambin sees nothing wrong in aiming high; seeking to test himself and his crew each time they cross the start line. Sandro Musu and Aziza have also come close to the Holy Grail, finishing fifth overall in 2004. Musu is as excited as ever heading into his seventh straight race.

     

    Kevin Dingli and Fekruna will be satisfied to make the start line after last year losing his rig just before his debut race as skipper. Caught by a truly destructive waterspout during the inshore warm-up race, Dingli thought his race was over until his friend Peter Vincenti offered up his yacht, Manana. Edward Gatt Floridia, who has tasted the glory of being onboard the first Maltese yacht to finish, is skippering Otra Vez Fexco, one of the smallest boats in the fleet, for the second time. Another member of the Ripard clan will be on Lee Satariano's J-122 Artie. Christian Ripard is a two-race winning skipper, once in 1996 and then again in 2001; coincidently, both times with J-Boats - maybe a good omen. Satariano, himself, came close to the ultimate prize in 2006, almost scooping the trophy from under the nose of the German maxi Morning Glory. Alfred Manduca and Allegra round out the Maltese roster.

     

    Sonke Stein may be German, but he is as good as a local in the eyes of many. He and his exuberant crew, which includes seven Maltese, have been a feature of the race for a number of years. Stein loves the it, most of the time, and this year is entering a new boat, coincidently a J-133 just like Ripard and Calascione, "she's named Juno and though she is registered in Hamburg, she is based in Malta. We have raced the boat a couple of times and are very happy with her performance. The crew is still a majority of Maltese, comprising my old team mixed with some others from the J-125 Strait Dealer [winning boat in 2001] crew. With experience from my earlier J-105 Oh Jee and the experience from Strait Dealer added to it we are looking forward to the race."

     

    Whatever the weather and whatever the eventual results, the Maltese crews may expect a crescendo of noise to match any surrounding their more celebrated foreign-counterparts. The crowds lining the Valletta bastions at the start and the Royal Malta Yacht Club deck at the finish will make sure of that.

     

    The Rolex Middle Sea Race commences on Saturday, 23 October 2010. Entries close on 15 October. The final prize giving is on Saturday, 30 October. George David's Rambler (USA) established the current Course Record of 47 hours 55 minutes and 3 seconds in 2007. ??For a full archive of photography, media releases and audio files covering all the key moments in the Rolex Middle Sea Race since 2003, visit www.regattanews.com

    For further information about the race and to register please contact:

    Royal Malta Yacht Club

    T. +356 2133 3109

    F. +356 2133 1131

    E. info@rmyc.org

     

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  5. When the weather got nice here last month, I decided that it was time to paint our house after 2 years of complaining about the color since we bought it. It took me a few weeks to string together enough time, but I finally have almost a whole first coat on the front & sides.

     

    The spinnaker arrived, and I did a dry fit while the mast was down, it looks great. The foot length seems perfect, and I will finalize the hoist as soon as I get the mast up.

     

    I decided to get back to the basement monday, because I am running out of time before the big race. I got in a little over an hour on monday, and the first side of the hull is done with the frst pass of sanding, and the second side is halfway done. I have sanded down all the dings and depressions in the hull until there was bare fiberglass on all sides. All the blisters starting to form were ground down to glass as well.

     

    Once I finish sanding this side, I will fill all the low areas with bondo, sand again, and then coat with West mixed with Graphite. Using the West research, I may even add some orange tempera to the epoxy which will hopefully give me a shadow tint of the original color. Tests will be performed as I get closer.

     

    No pictures, as the hull is very ugly, and looks the same as the first pictures.