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      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  

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    Is anyone else tracking this Velux 5 Oceans Race? What's up with the total lack of media coverage? Are they trying to keep the good stuff for some later post race movie release?

    Really difficult to stay interested when the intel lags so far behind. Blog posts are great to read if you have the time, Vendee did it so much better. I don't want to dump on

    the guys racing ( after all this is solo Open 60 racing) but man this is like watching molasses on a cold winters day! I'd be pissed if I were out there hanging my ass on the line

    with no one else paying attention. IMOCA has obviously pushed this race aside in favor of the Barcelona Race. At least there's some one from our side winning the first leg as in

    kicking major butt ! Me thinks Brad is in a league of his own this time round.

  1. First of all, I extend my deepest condolences to the families of the two people aboard Wingnuts-it is an awful tragedy.

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    I also heard about the U-20 sinking and all of this has brought up interesting thoughts both here and on boatdesign. Some people want to blame the design of the Kiwi 35 for the deaths of the crew even though the small amount of evidence that is out now seems to show that something terrible happened to those two people that didn't happen to the others on board. Thats one thing to consider.

    Another is this: the common cure all among safety freaks in the monohull community appears to be that the Kiwi 35 was too tender, it was too likely to capsize, it needed more lead. That because of this it was "unseaworthy".

    But wait just a minute-did you see the picture of the upsidedown boat and the righted boat? Did you notice that it was floating?

    Remember the old mono vs multi argument: " Yeah the multihull will capsize but the leadbelly will sink". But the Kiwi 35 did not sink. In fact, it behaved very similarly to a multihull that had capsized. And as tragic as the loss of two lives is 6 others survived w/o injuries.

    Maybe instead of mandating that all monohulls are self-righting(which is probably a good idea in most cases) a "class" of high speed ,lightweight monohulls(of different lengths) that may capsize could be permitted as long as the boat can be shown to float after a capsize/inversion. These monohulls would have exactly the same characteristics as racing multihulls except that some of them would carry some lead-but they would not sink.And many could be designed to be rightable with action by the crew.

    And multihulls race everywhere and are considered seaworthy by most people even though they can capsize.

    Worth pondering ....

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    added 8/6/11

    I may have accidently come up with a solution to make "winged" boats safer and practical by eliminating tripping over the down wing which would also eliminate any possibilty of the thing remaining inverted while providing increased protection for the crew on deck. See the two very rough sketches posted on this date. I may build a large test model to evaluate this idea and wings in general. A friend in NZ may also pursue a test model. One thing is plainly evident: there is rampant ,uninformed speculation about the K35 and other winged boats even among naval architects. A carefully done test model could put that kind of crap to rest. Of course, if the investigation is thorough and not a rubber stamped anti-wing lynch mob maybe the model wouldn't be required. I would hope that solutions such as the one I have showed would be considered rather than just banning a whole group of high performance monohulls! We'll see...

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    blog-0065521001377494119.jpgSo, Saturday marked the final day of the Western Circuit, steering the Rekerring Dream, Ker32.

    Pretty decent showing for inaugural regatta - 5/2/3/3/2/3 in a fleet of 9 well sailed boats.

    The Esses were harder to beat on the first (lighter), weekend but we had the measure of them last Sat.

    Bill Bremner's Foxy was on fine form- scoring a string of firsts with Sarab Singh's Windsikher only getting Bill once as far as I remember.

    It was nice to take a few races off Windsikher actually, since that boat (S40IRC) is moded for the light stuff and has 8ft more hull than us.

    Our starting was really good and we were getting there with the numbers up and down. Considering the level of the crew pre-regatta, I was pleased with the way we were turning corners, however that is the area where we can make the most improvement.

    Nice bunch of guys - Jon (Bow), Piffy (Mast), Sam (Pit), Nev / Zhen (Trim), Woody (Main), Me (Helm), Varney (Nav), although I was re-christened 'Krueger' by the end of the regatta because I was beasting them around the coarse!

     

    The biggest surprise for me was the after-sail, which was done really well. SMU were taking it really seriously, with excellent media coverage - masses of free piss and bands, dancing girls, prizes, auctions - you name it! Several banquets as well!

     

    Good effort Singapore - highly impressed!

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    blog-0293285001384737307.jpgi will never complain about the cost of house paint again!! Just bought one can of bottom paint, read the receipt and weep!! (more likely laugh cause your not paying) I knew bottom paint was bad---had heard that anti-fowling was worse--and the reality is YES to all.

     

    I got a hold of Petit paints online, and found a dealer in Lewisville, a mere 115 miles from my house. Petit "ask the expert" told me that three coats of primer, and then three coats of their bottom paint was needed. I don't know about you, but I LOATH the myriad of "experts" that will tell you soooo many different things! The man at the store told me primer was not needed if i sanded, and that two coats would be all that I needed. Of course as I looked at his stock, he had only two cans of Petit, in "rust"....who paints a boat in rust??? i guess in the long run it would be good camouflage--if my boat were steel!

     

    In the end I decided no primer and two coats for my Guinea pig, the dolphin, and i will see how it fairs. I am worried about thin paint on a boat that will be drug upon the beach more than once; but that is why i am painting this test case first, to see how it goes before painting ROHO. I'm going to spray it, which requires thinning it 10%, but I can't see that being too much of an issue.

     

    What is an issue is refiguring my budget! It will cost around $1500.00 to paint ROHO, which will leave precious little for the main sail, not to mention electronics and all new cushions. (spinnaker is right out!) And lets just not mention unknown issues as I put her in the water.

     

    All in all, I am focused on getting her in the lake, and yes, then in the ocean. Miami to the Bahamas' in a 27' swing keel, am i crazy???

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    blog-0600511001385584277.jpgHello !

     

    Incredible enough I've found out a very bad orizzontal crack on my yacth's mast. The yacht is a Grand Soleil 37" B&C produced in 2007 ... and the mast is by Sparcraft.

     

    Could anybody help to understand how that could happen ? ... I've used my yacht for cruising few weeks a year and did average 10 regattas per year at club level.

     

    I'm very disappointed to discover such an issue ... has anybody had similar experience ? .. specifically with Sparcraft mast ?

     

    See picture attached.

     

    cheers