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  1. 23 points
    Eight years ago today we lost Spike Perry. The SLIVER project was started just about that time. The project was then dedicated to the memory of Spike. The Spike Burgee will fly on FRANCIS LEE today.
  2. 15 points
    There's a piece of multihull history that's just begging to be told. I've been following this story from the sidelines for several years now. The story of this boat serves as an important lesson about the yachting industry, as well as a turning point in the history of Gunboat, but there are so many subplots and twists to this boat's past, involving so many characters...and the best part is the story is still unfolding. A development this morning gave me a good laugh so I decided I had to share. In the Gunboat South Africa era (2005/6?) a pair of brothers from Latin America approached PJ about buying a Gunboat 62/66. The brothers loved the design but felt the price tag was too steep. Pj assured them that they could never build a boat like a Gunboat for less money, anywhere, and his offering was the best deal going. To try and close the deal PJ (apparently) comped a week's charter aboard Gb6202 Safari (IIRC). The two parties had gotten down to details in the contract but the $3.4m (or whatever the price was) was just too high. The brothers figured PJ was making heaps of money at that price and they wanted a deeper discount than Pj could offer. Despite the free charter, negotiations stalled. Around that same time, PJ decided to stretch the 62 tooling to 66 feet (basically in order to accommodate more equipment and offer more luxury). Now...PJ and MM had had an agreement where MM would get royalties from every GB62 sold...but PJ argued that he was no longer selling 62's, he was selling 66's, so MM was no longer entitled to royalties. Pj told MM to go pound sand. That obviously wasn't a popular decision with MM. Back to the brothers...Frustrated with negotiations with PJ, the brothers approached MM asking if MM would sell a "likeness" of the GB62 design. The brothers wanted to have a GB62 built themselves (without all of the cream that they thought PJ was skimming). MM figured any sense of loyalty between PJ and MM was sorta out of the window so they happily helped. MM changed the bow profile, some corners were rounded, some construction details were changed...but it was a GB62v.2 in spirit if not in name. The brothers went to several builders before settling on Lyman Morse in Maine (back when JB Turner was still there, before JB left for Front Street). PJ was furious that he'd been "betrayed" by MM. He'd spent $100's of thousands on design for the Gunboat 62, he'd spent months trying to close these guys, he had comped a charter, the sale was HIS fish to land, it was HIS design to sell. To MM, after the 62/66 royalty situation, it was the quick and the dead. "Mala" was the final and definitive nail in the coffin for the relationship between GB and MM (though their relationship had apparently been on the rocks for a long time). That breakup ended up driving PJ and GB to Nigel Irens Design for the Gunboat 78 (started in SA), then later the GB60 (China) and finally the GB55 (USA). The GB/MM era was over. Some would argue (including myself) that Gunboat never found its footing after the split with MM. MM would have to wait until the HH line to find commercial success in the market segment again, when MM and Hudson would join forces to settle their blood feud with PJ. As for the not-a-Gunboat 62, "Mala Conducta" was wildly overbudget and way behind schedule. The "outrageous" $3.4m that PJ had been offering for a Gunboat was a bargain in comparison to the (reported) $7m that "Mala" ended up costing. (That excludes the very real possibility that the brothers would've been victims of GB's bankruptcy in SA if they'd gone with PJ...but ignore that fact for rhetorical purposes). Despite the cost and delays the boat was fantastic. I got to see her not long after launch (2009?) and went for a sail. She was heads and shoulders better than any comparable Gunboat of her day. Interior finish was beautiful, the styling updates were perfect. She was the best boat Gunboat never built. There were teething issues (as you'd expect). They snapped a rudder or two, they had issues with the rudder cassettes, but the boat was fast and strong. Before you knew it she was off to the Caribbean and onward to Panama. As for GB/PJ, by the time Mala launched PJ/GB had gone out of business in S. Africa (PJ insists it doesn't count as a bankruptcy, though many would contest that characterization. A difference without a distinction, maybe?). The global economy was melting down and orders were canceling left and right. In truth, PJ had never really been making money hand over fist the way the brothers had assumed, or even making money at all. Even though he had 4 boats under build, without new orders he couldn't finish the boats that he already had contracts for. It turned out buying a Gunboat 62 at a loss for PJ actually WAS a good deal. The first GB "bankruptcy" in SA had revealed the Ponzi scheme nature of boatbuilding. Borrow from Paul to pay Peter in this case, I guess. In the end, Gunboat would go bankrupt 3 more times, repeating the same Ponzi scheme over and over again ("FAKE NEWS! Not bankruptcies!" PJ is yelling at his computer screen somewhere). Having seen behind the curtain, though, I'm much more sympathetic to PJ's difficulties. It's just really fucking hard to build a boat "on time, on budget, on spec", especially if there's some expectation of profitability or a sustainable business model. About a year after launch "Mala Conducta" was struck by lightning in Panama. Structurally the boat was ok but the electrical system was plagued by issues. "Mala" was an early adopter of Lithium batteries and networked electrical systems. They backtracked to Curaçao to haul out and fix the boat. They flew some techs down from Maine to work on her and at some point during her refit the Lithium batteries caught fire. The contractors barely had time to get off before the boat was engulfed in flames. In a stroke of unfortunate luck, Curaçao has some excellent firefighting equipment as a result of oil refinery/fuel storage industry on the island. Instead of spraying water on the burning boat (which wouldn't have worked) they used chemical (foam?) to extinguish the fire. That meant they put the fire out moments before the boat was inarguably a total loss. It had the appearance of a boat, but it wasn't a boat. The resin had burned out, the foam was gone, but the "shell" was intact. I was told you could push your finger through the deck. Below shoulder-height the boat was "fine" but the main bulkhead was toast, the ceiling/deck was scorched, the jack stands had punched through the flooded hulls. To the insurers (reluctant to pay out on a $5m+ claim) it was a repair job. To everyone else it was a total loss. Engineers were flown in, boatbuilders, etc. and no one wanted to touch the project. The insurance claim went to court where it languished for about a decade. The story went quiet. Throughout the saga I followed the story out of sheer morbid curiosity, but I continued paying attention long after the fire because I wanted to believe there was an opportunity there. A power cat! A cheap Hall mast! A sailing cat using a kite instead of a mast! But alas...there's nothing more expensive than a cheap boat. I talked with the guys at MM, I talked to the skipper, the broker, everyone said it was trashed. I was told nearly a year ago that the case had been resolved and the assets would be for sale but I didn't make a move. There was no play to be made and I passed on whatever opportunity might exist. That's why I was so surprised when I saw that a couple of hippies bought it about 6 months ago. They also have a Lagoon 560 that they seemingly live on full time. https://m.facebook.com/Ocean.Nomad/ They managed to get both engines running, jury rigged a stumpy alloy pole for a makeshift mast, strapped the Hall mast on deck, repaired the obvious holes, and splashed the boat. They excitedly put a call out on FB looking for volunteers to crew from Curaçao to the US (in convoy with their other cat). They set sail...and...it seemed to be working! They sailed around Cuba, cruised the Bahamas, and made it to Savannah. Their FB posts showed them hiking waterfalls, swimming with the pigs in Staniel, basically living the dream. It was never revealed what they paid for it, but for a heartbeat I thought "Damn, maybe they DID get a deal and I missed it!" That thought was brief, though. I knew that any refit would be in the millions. There was no deal there. Inevitably the project would be abandoned. It was just a matter of time. That's why I got such a good laugh this AM. The project is for sale, "any reasonable offer considered". https://yachthub.com/list/boats-for-sale/used/sail-catamarans/morrelli-and-melvin-62-luxury-performance-sailing-cat-mala-conducta/231214 I feel bad for the hippies. I'm sure this adventure HAS been an adventure, but it must've also been expensive and time consuming. Any "adult in the room" would've told them to save their money and spend their time elsewhere. It seems to me like this boat has some bad karma wrapped up in it. Luckily for them, they seem to be pulling the plug before the bleeding gets to be too bad. Anyway, this story has been going on for years now. It's like "the Giving Tree" by Shel Silverstein. The drama keeps unfolding, each chapter more tragi-comic than the last. Eventually, maybe someone will hire a bulldozer to turn this boat into landfill, or maybe someone with more money than sense will fix it for real. Either way, it'll be interesting to see how this story ends. What's the lesson? Buy used. Or buy new from a billionaire who doesn't care about profit. Or don't buy a cheap used boat. Or don't start a high-end boatbuilding business without a bankruptcy lawyer on speed dial. I dunno. That's the "Mala Conducta" story.
  3. 12 points
  4. 10 points
    I may have related this before. In 1973, we bought our first "real" boat, and 18' Alberg Typhoon. We had a first sail, and after putting her to bed, I couldn't tear myself from her, and stayed on the dock admiring her from all angles, until I fell in backwards.
  5. 9 points
    he cheats like a king on the course. I know, first hand...my dad played 3 holes with him. (Trump National Hudson Valley...prior to him buying it it was Branton Woods CC and my dad was the Head Starter...donny played a few rounds there before buying it) My dad came back to the clubhouse and couldn't stop laughing. cheater used his foot wedge more then any other club. There are over 80 deep bunkers on the course. He found a few of them, yet miraculously, the ball moved into the grass. Why is this important? Simple, because if you cheat at the little things and expect to get away with it, you also cheat at the big things and expect to get away with it...I FUCKING HATE cheaters.......
  6. 9 points
  7. 8 points
    Being able to do the things you love is the biggest gift life will bring you. Naysayers may be well intentioned, but they’re still negative. You’re 24, you’ve loads of time to try things, fuck up things and move on and recover. A good friend owns a mini, her eyes sparkle whenever she talks about it. Do it. We’ve all been cold, wet, tired, partly terrified and thinking we’re not good enough whilst worrying about how to fund it all. And it’s all worth it when the stars align and you’re hooting over big swells with your hair on fire. Welcome to boat ownership. SB
  8. 7 points
    Hulls No. 1 and No. 2 of the carbon fiber cutters snug at home. Hull No. 3 about 85% finished. Hull No. 4 about 15% finished. Two C F cutters by robert perry, on Flickr
  9. 7 points
    I congratulate WS. Finally we have recognition that sailing is a rich person's sport and we have an event that will exclude the great unwashed. This harks back to the golden era of Olympic sailing between 1920 and 1932 when Olympic sailing was recognized as an exclusive gentleman's sport and proud of it!. That was the era of the privately owned 8 meters for four Olympic cycles and of course....1920 was the jubilee year.....when the working classes are distracted by mundane matters such as the great depression and unemployment but gentlemen were racing 12 meter yachts at the Olympics. There was none of this nonsense about gender neutrality or crap about including 3rd world countries like India or China. Olympic sailing was a decent yacht from a proper country sailed by someone with the means to pay their own way without being subsidized by the taxpayer. A yacht costing $200,000 or so, should bring back some decent owner types and if they choose to hire a professional sailor so that they can buy an Olympic medal in addition to their son's place at Stanford....all credit to them. Its capitalism at work. I think it diminishes the event to allow charter boats or provided boat. If you cant afford it, you shouldnt be there. That is why they are called Olympic trials.
  10. 7 points
    This is the core of the issue here. AIS and other new technology will and should be adopted to their full extent. It is the mindset of the competitors that needs to brought in line with its advantages rather than the perceived disadvantages. A comparable analogy is Body cameras worn by Police - lots of talk that this unfairly obligates Officers. Bollocks I say - having been on the end of a trigger happy cop - I want to know that their actions are recorded and are not open to being tampered with. Safety matters - even if this race has become perceived as a coastal sprint - the next time a major storm savages the fleet you will suddenly see all yachts AIS functions miraculously come to life............ And the people who both do this, and tolerate this, need to be both outed and disqualified. The WOXI story as laid out by MR stinks. The following actions of the RC and PC also stink. The stench is not limited to these people. The Turd on the carpet remains - you just need to open your eyes to see it; Despite the attempts by cetain closely aligned media to deodorise the situation.
  11. 7 points
    After a long day sitting in the waiting room, initial surgery is done. Just got good news, lymph nodes clean.
  12. 6 points
    Extremism can be a problem for both sides, but right now we have a President and all the power of that office in the hands of FOX News. Beware of the fallacy of false equivalence.
  13. 6 points
    I think you will find a post from me back at the start o this thread suggesting that Brexit was actually a moral issue. Me, me, me first, fuck the foreigners and immigrants. Greed, vacuous pride, not giving a toss for those less lucky than yourself. Not being willing to sit down and compromise or the general good. Just witness May's red lines and the 2 main parties unwilling to see sense. Compare with the EU compromise, sometimes slow and a bit fudged, but balanced. It comes down to asking, "Do you care about others really, and are you willing to translate that into acts?" Or do you pick up the ball and leave the field in a hissy fit going on about how you invented the game?
  14. 6 points
  15. 6 points
    I wish I was Dutch. This whole brexit thing gives me a kind of roaring sound in my head these days. The local economy seems to be stuttering, with all investment and borrowing stopped pending a moment of clarity, which never seems to come. Bankruptcies are up, exporters and importers are fucked, nobody is committing to the future, unless stockpiling beans and batteries counts. These mounting short delays are making it worse. Can't see how any delay for a peoples vote will help, unless the threat of article 50 is withdrawn first, 6 more months of uncertainty will have us all eating rodents and berries, even before (if) we leave. Every day brings new stories of John Bercow making the funniest sounds, the Houses of Parliament roof falling in, the same old pointless posturing intended only to boost name recognition post apocalypse, by a generation of politicians that has never worked a day in their lives, or made a single hard decision in their political careers. The que at the food bank just keeps getting longer. The Xenophobic chanting gets louder. The media circus is in overdrive, churning out any old shit for clickbait. The tiny right wing has a megaphone right now, (similar to the MAGA crowd in the states?), honestly, just what the fuck is going on? Russian backed facebook conspiracy? or are we just so fucking stupid we walked straight into a low beam, and are too vain to admit it? Was chatting with a Greek guy recently, I had expected him to hate Brussels, they had 5 good years, then 10 years of shit. I was surprised to find he had much respect for the EU, as he had more faith in the European leaders than he did in his own 5 minute wonders, to sort it out. I kind of feel the same now, our parliamentary system seems broken, and Donald Tusk seems to have more affinity for and trust of the people of Britain than our own prime minister, meanwhile the leader of HM opposition is out digging potatoes, and wondering why everyone keeps looking at him. They say we end up with the leaders we deserve, but surely there is a limit? Come back Guy Fawkes, we need you now.
  16. 6 points
    There is no remaining IP on the design of the Laser. BK extended his income from the Laser long after the design rights expired by negotiating to receive a fee per boat fee ) based on a contract with the trademark owners/builders. BK assigned this contract to a company he owned called BKI . Subsequently BK sold BKI to Global Sailing, the parent company of the Australian Laser builder. The Australian builder purportedly terminated the contract with Laser Performance believing (incorrectly it turned out) that this would prevent LP from continuing to build the Laser (with obvious beneficial ramifications for GS). There were three problems with the sale. Firstly, BK was in breach of the World Sailing contract which required he get permission to sell his contractual rights . Secondly, terminating the royalty/fee contract did not in fact allow GS to terminate the rights for a trademark owner to build boats because they didnt get permission from the Class . As I have posted on the Torch thread, class associations have intrinsic power as the monopoly customer and they can change their rules to benefit members....which they did. Thirdly, GS made a very short sighted move if they terminated the contract...because all they achieved was effectively ending the right to receive the fee. They had paid $ 2 million for something which they then made worthless The litigation followed as GS tried to reinstate the contract. Thus far, no luck. The Trademarks actually originally belonged to Ian Bruce who commissioned BK to design the Laser and owned the company that built and supplied Lasers world wide until he got overextended . At one time he owned or part owned 9 plants world wide building the Laser. The Laser concept .....the idea of a simple, strict one design singe handed boat was originally Ian's ....and Ian wrote the class rules which were such an important ingredient to its success. When IB was forced to liquidate, various parties acquired the trademarks but in order to secure clear rights they signed contracts with BK who still had a contract with IB's companies. One cant help but wonder how different the story might have been if IB had weathered the economic downturn in the late 70s/Early 80s and had continued to own and part own Laser production worldwide. The builders would have been controlled by someone whose passionate vision created the concept . Ah well , instead we eventually got Rasty.
  17. 6 points
    I'd like to share a trick of the trade when misplacing any tool or bolt. Instead of wandering around searching aimlessly, simply drop to your knees and it magically appears beneath either kneecap.
  18. 6 points
    Just finished a 2 day dinghy regatta in the snipe. It was in honor of a legendary mate of mine. My 7 yr old daughter crewed for me. It was so cal windy on day 1 (12+ knts) and we struggled through 3/5 before she got cold and I got exhausted. Woke up this morning with a standard man cold and really sore back. Forecast same as yesterday. I asked if she was game and with a resounding affirmative we set off to the club. Barely made the first start as she lost her life jacket after racing yesterday, and ocs but bounced back to a 4th. Breeze kept moderate to soft for most of the day and we put up a nice scoreline of top 5s including a nice bullet until the final race when it piped up again. She had an absolute ball. Her enthusiasm was infectious and i ended up with one of my top 5 most enjoyable sailing days ever (which is a big deal as I sail for a living and am fortunate to have so many epic days on the water) . I am just so amped to have a kid who loves the sport as much as I do. My wife, who is also a fuckin good sailor, and I have tried really hard not to push our girl into this, and dont want her to burn out. But shit is it great when they just get it and love it as much as we do!?!? I'm just a bit sauced and bragging at this point but what the hell, I'm a lucky dude...
  19. 6 points
    Clean: not so sure the UFO is slower than. Waszp. Dave has cuffed more than one or two around, but that could also be pilot differentiation. But to repeat and reiterate, we weren’t trying to be faster, just a shit ton more practical and way more affordable. The sizzle is flying, not thirty knots SHC
  20. 6 points
    How bout a two cabin/two head 68? Ahhh...the simplicity! Giant office, movie room, workshop. Dope.
  21. 6 points
    When I made the 8 parter about Britain's biggest Firth I decided to leave the music out - to stop Google taking control of all my work. A few espressed dissapointment and I promised that I would make a film for the music lovers (and google because they need the cash} For those who like their sailing films with a bit of music - and on the shortish side here it is the music is from the Kruger Bros The Moray Firth - pronounced Murray) is about 70 miles wide at its mouth - it has its own 200 strong population of dolphins - the most northerly dolphins in the world. Dylan PS in the end frame there is a link to an unpleasant film about old sailors and fingus
  22. 6 points
    Now I'm feeling like the "sole bird on the wire." being shat on from above and who has to either speak up or just fly away. In approaching 3 months of some 4K posts and over 90K views to this thread, or over 1,000 views per day average, no one has posted "AISGATE" on the race course in detail. I find that quite bizzare. Well my wings are fucked and I'm stuck, so here goes. TIME TO PUT A FEW "AISGATE" URBAN MYTHS TO BED A. THE LEAD UP TO AISGATE It is around midnight Thurs/Friday or 27/28 December and 100's approaching the Maria Is Layline for WOXI and Comanche being on different Gybes and the Tracker as Trackers do simply recording pretty useless SOG/COG snapshots at 10 minute intervals, that I went to MarineTraffic (which I seldom ever do) knowing they were within Tas AIS Repeater Range and worried my LH money on WOXI was going down the shitter. Low and behold I find WOXI was not showing up on AIS and her last AIS TX received was fucking Bradleys Head B4 the Start. WTF and alarm bells started going off. So I saved that and then some subsequent Tracker screen prints thinking those tucked up in bed in Australia are going to go epileptic when they see this. I had no idea obviously at the time what was in store. It was clear by the last forecast Thursday that a NW to SW Change would come through at or before the 100' got to Tasman Light and after that Storm Bay would not be glass out as well as the Derwent with a daylight finish. Thank God for once I thought. So the approach and first around into Storm Bay will probably be the decider, particularly as the 2 fat boats had done a brilliant job hanging onto the two skinny boats in the lighter stuff on Thursday and Comanche who contrary to my prediction "brained it." Sorry @PIL66 you knew better than I. I then started looking at the Tasman Light weather station to get real time observations as to the timing of that SW change and how may WOXI money was looking. So mindful of @terrafirma and @paps49posts I have now got around to marking up those time stamped Tracker results including two detailed locations, one off that Maria Is Layline at around 0045 and the other for the Tasman Light Approach at around 0345 Local Time when the NW to Sth Change came through. Both can be regarded scenes of the "AIS Crime". B. MY OPINIONS I'm sure many will have their own opinions but for what they are worth here are mine at the time and explained using the following time stamped Tracker snapshots. Note: For brevity I have omitted any reference to InfoTrack not out disrespect, to the contrary having regard to comparative team resources offset arguably by Team Bekking/Cape being on the same boat, produced a remarkable and worthy outcome for a old first edition fat boat. 1. Weather Routing from Maria Is at around 0045 AEDT to Tasman Light. It was obvious by the Tracker after the Maria Is Gybe, Juan Vila (Navigator) on WOXI was prepared to carry it further and stay east even if it meant burning up some VMC. So his rounding strategy of staying wide in advance of the NW to SW Change was pretty clear in advance. Seeing what was happening via AIS to say Comanche where it got flaky inshore around this time reinforced that decision. Commanche and BlackJack (BJ in in particular) on the other hand were happy to go max VMC after passing Maria by staying inshore and west, so their rounding strategy pretty obvious being they may even have to gybe later down the race track when breeze started to soften and clock south. This is in fact what occurred. By the way all this occurring "real time" in the "dead of night" and with WOXI being AIS "dark" to other competitors beyond say 0.5 nautical mile as reported in Sails Magazine Feb/March 2019. 2. The SW Change on Tasman Light Approach around 0345 AEDT WOXI was the most easterly and Black Jack the most westerly with Comanche in between. Just before this is the scene of another potential"AIS crime" as articulated by Black Jack to the media upon hitting the dock. No one could see WOXI's conditions on AIS but WOXI could see them first get bogged, then having to gybe east. WOXI kept her distance and reinforcing a rounding plan hatched off Maria Is long before. WOXI absolutely blitzed the last section of this Maria Is to Tasman Light rounding approach. As for any 100' competitors getting WOXI's real time weather conditions using just the Tracker, have a look at the screen grab for 0345 AEDT. WOXI was heading home to Sydney. If that the only Tracker gobblygook result, it alone equates to 20 minutes for other competitors being in the "dark" (and daylight still over an hour away), noting the LH #1 and #2 delta was not much more than that. The 2 fat boats bogged and the 2 skinny boats got around Tasman Is quicker. 3. The Tasman Light Rounding at Daylight On account of the above the rounding order at Tasman Light then became the LH finish order as there were no speed bumps in either Storm Bay or the Derwent and as forecast the day before. 4. The 1st Tragedy of AISGATE Juan Vila's (Navigator on WOXI) decision to carry their Maria Is gybe further and gain an easterly leverage for the approach and rounding of Tasman Is with the SW change in mind. With no shadow of a doubt this why why WOXI was first over the line. Unfortunately a professional accolade flushed down the toilet by his own Skipper's subsequent actions once hitting the dock.If I was Vila I would be very pissed off. 5. The 2nd Tragedy of AISGATE This was Black Jacks bleat to the media and not mounting a Protest.. As you can see by reference to these Tracker pics, Black Jack was the most westerly boat at the scene of both "AIS Crimes," the second in particular. Black Jack put herself there, no one else and was the one most least effected by not knowing what WOXI was doing courtesy of AIS. That said I believe that outcome more setup on a relatively new boat than a weather routing outcome. Commanche in fact actually has a far greater axe to grind being further east and potentially being able to correct their approach knowing what WOXI was doing but didn't know. I don't think it is a coincidence that of the Black Jack "afterguard", both Navigator and Skipper did not buy into the media bleat, only the Owner and paid Tactician (Butters). Black Jack being too far west says more to why no Protest was mounted than anything else, despite the frustration experienced. That aside a big bad mark for bleating with no protest but passing the buck to the RC to do so far worse. 6. The 3rd Tragedy of AISGATE Mark Richards totally ignoring the Race Documentation (using a story concocted being no way you can tell if your AIS TX is working, despite #1 - #5 upthread) with only one thing on his mind it seems, being "redemption for WOXI" so he and the Oatley Family could raise a "9 Finger Salute" after not making the finish line in two prior races and a third being blown off the water by a Protest of Richard's own making. That ignorance either intentional or otherwise is underpinned by a post-race Declaration according to the RRS (Racing Rules Sailing) for WOXI clearly being not in order, according to what transpired both on and off the race course. 7. The 4th Tragedy of AISGATE A Race Committee (RC), Race Organiser (RO) the CYCA and potentially even the races International Jury (IJ) having exactly the same thinking as Mark Richards and Team WOXIas evidenced by a Claytons Protest destined to be deemed invalid under the RRS, namely the 2018 S2H RC Protest WOXI. That outcome underpins the claim being the RRS Declaraton provisions were never looked at all by the RCC or the IJ. That is bizzare by any subjective measure. The irony is that if they had been via either RC investigation (automatic penalty no hearing under Si) or alternatively via an IJ Hearing which void the "conflicted rule" in the RRS, then claims about the lack of AIS TX propagation strength by Mark Richards and Team WOXI would have been vindicated, then no penalty would have eventuated.That never occurred so this is where the smell from the turd still sitting on the carpet as @Boinksays upthread gets even stronger. 8. The 6th Tragedy of AISGATE Those at the very top of our sport world wide are now contemplating making AIS the subject of compliance checking by RC's. All on account they have swallowed hook, line and sinker Mark Richard's and Team WOXI's nonsense that AIS TX "can't be self-policed." A line Richards conjured up to underpin a non-conforming post-race Declaration and a line which has no technical basis as proved up thread by AIS TX Tests #1 - #5. If this total disregard for the paper/digital post-race Declarations are written on and this compliance nonsense goes unchallenged, turnstiles will be needed at every Protest Room. All concepts then of "self policing" are thrown out in favour of introducing more rules. That and more rules where interpretation favours some is the scourge of this sport which both discourages entry and participation. 9. Conclusion So six (6) Tragedies all instigated by just one guy wanting to have 9 fingers in the air for one race and could have all been easily avoided by following RRS regarding Declarations and still have 9 fingers up if what happened to WOXI's AIS is actually what happened. Has anyone in world sailing ever achieved 6 tragedies in one race for one finger? Must be a world record surely? One can only assume his sole remaining thumb is up his own arse and that of the one paying him. Wow that must be a fucking thumb juggle. The real fools in this are the people who put up with this shit and say absolutely nothing, yet complain when it happens to them. PS. Is that good enough for you PapSmear?? I get it now...you pricks are just wearing me out so I just drop dead and fall off the wire.
  23. 6 points
    My take is that, phew! The Trump team did not create any quid pro quo with the Russians regarding their attempts to alter the outcome of our 2016 elections. The Russians did engage in two primary means of manipulating our election, firstly through online social media efforts and secondly by hacking the DNC and Hillary's emails. The Mueller investigation not only identified these methods, they charged various persons with these crimes. Despite reaching out to them the Russians did not have assistance or direction from the President's team. Anyone who belittles the utility of Mueller's investigation needs to remember that one third of the work was a national security response to Russian operations which has had impact on our nation's unity and security. To minimize these successes is to minimize our national defense. Troops, ships, satellites and this investigation all have their roles. As for obstruction, Mueller punted. He made no formal prosecutorial decision on whether it occurred. He laid out the evidence for AG Barr, and left it to him to decide. He does note that in the absence of impending charges or legal action from the government, it would be nigh on impossible to establish motive for such a charge. Since there was no collusion, what would be the motive for obstruction? It's a good day for the president, and a good day for America. Hats off to Mueller for a job well done, and to his team for maintaining a leak-proof operation. We can trust this work, and it is important for both sides to understand the implications on the value of a job well done. Minimizing the importance of trusting and respecting the Special Counsel's work is to minimize the value of a united country. Righties, especially NM2, I'm talking to you when I say congrats on having a president who has been exonerated on collusion. That's great news for all of us. Do not think this means he can do anything with impunity or that because you've been proven "right" you can insult your fellow countrymen. There was good reason to investigate, and this should be a time to ratchet DOWN tensions, not escalate them. Otherwise, you are continuing the work of the Russians.
  24. 5 points
    The smart money here is on ferrocement. By far the cheapest per pound if only the idiots designing multihulls could get their heads out of their own asses.
  25. 5 points
    Sosoo had some interesting points. I wanted to offer my reasonably unbiased perspective on one of them.