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  1. 6 points
    As an owner, these tragedies definitely make me pause. Whilst we all might have the best intentions, the reality of resources and finances have a way of insidiously altering your thought patterns. A frank analysis is usually painful, as there’s always something on your list that’s borderline. Most times when I do find something that’s marginal, the selfish, or bluntly tight arsed, part of my brain has a way of whispering she’ll be right, conditions look benign for this next race, I’ll worry about it next year. An example: my life raft was new with the boat, it’s in its service dates but have I pulled it right out and checked it of late? No. Or the jacklines . They’re flat webbing straps, they look fine but there is some slight furring on the edge here and there. Are they still OK when 80 odd kgs goes over the side? That stanchion that bent and now wobbles a bit when we wrapped a kite sheet through it, is it still safe? Having Cat audits is necessary, and I actually enjoy them, as they reinforce to me my boat passes an established checklist. But if I’m brutally honest, I still have to fight an internal battle to ensure that I’m not JUST using things like audits and crew compliance as “I passed, that’s all I need to do”, and ensure I keep viewing safety holistically in every facet of managing and owning the boat. It would crush me to tell the wife of a crew member I contributed to the accident because I’d skimped on spending money on the (insert here) . Sobering.
  2. 4 points
    Hehe. Remember the story about the mom who thought LOL meant "lots of love", and messaged her daughter: "grandpa just died. LOL"
  3. 4 points
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/02/24/united-and-delta-cut-ties-to-nra-as-boycott-movement-spreads-to-global-corporations/?utm_term=.12eb5b17e7c0 Fuck the nra
  4. 4 points
    Here are the standings....a lot of changes from four days ago. Rank Group SA Name Boat Name DTL 1 B Shorthanded Shorty 452.6 DTG 2 C Will Lee Lorraine III 3.5 3 A prettyhatemachine prettyhatemachine 3.9 4 C Sambaopreis Sambaopreis 16.6 5 C mred mistered 18.0 6 B Iluvitar 32.1 7 B unplugged Dcarr 48.0 8 B gary hschutz 50.6 9 A Vibroman Vibroman_SA 52.8 10 C Sapphire Girl Sapphire Girl 55.9 11 B Mr. Fixit Yodaman 60.1 12 A Golden Rose Golden Rose SA 62.9 13 B sailon2 jahmbo SA 63.3 14 B jacksparrow Malamute 65.3 15 C 4010 grimlin 72.1 16 A Breitling Breitling_SA 72.7 17 A Rainbow Spirit Rainbow Spirit II 87.9 18 B N/A Walkaround 89.0 19 A Gybe Turkey Gybe Turkey 90.2 20 B Gufmiester Gufmiester 97.4 21 A BlueMountainsYC shockwave11 102.0 22 B Milli Blitzquart 102.5 23 A HKG1203 HKG1203 115.2 24 B kea.nn kea.nn SA 121.1 25 A daan62 hutspot77 122.9 26 B Magool Magool 124.6 27 A Marty6 Cambodunum 126.6 28 B EquusAsinusDomesticus ON9270 133.1 29 B mkgsailor J2B2 133.6 30 B stanlutz USA644RAVEN_SA 135.5 31 A I Sail The Black Boat Thistle1678 145.6 32 A Kapt'n Kirk prowler_1-SA 159.5 33 C JeSa-SA JeSa 170.0 34 A Tunnel Rat Mongrel 189.2 35 B Rimike rider1982 190.7 36 A Ozzy Ozzy 85 197.0 37 A Driftwood Me Rongo Rekohu SA 200.0 38 B hmsmweasel Stay Thirsty M 43 222.1 39 C rolltak Awkward Turtle 256.0 40 B cg_ 259.2 41 A From The Rail A-Squared 267.7 42 C Dirty Sea Rag 293.1 43 B GrandbendOnt 300.0 44 A Wet Hog WetHog-SA 367.5 45 A Mud Sailor Mudsailor SA 371.7 46 B spadadua 398.6 47 B Alpina ColombaRacing 522.3 48 A Your Mom Your Mom SA 534.2 49 B stufishing Stufishing_SA 585.1 50 A Mike G Mike Ventura 629.3 51 A Hike, Bitches HikeBitches 736.0 52 C wpbeardsley wpbeardsley 1011.9 53 C Vin Divided Sky 1059.5 54 C puckhead 1268.4 55 C sailingk8 She Wolf 1298.8 56 C Loon Localdog 1383.0 57 B Swamp Swamp Rat 1434.3 58 A Lat21 Hamachi SA 1808.9 59 B Tommmzzz tommmzzz 4280.2
  5. 4 points
    Florida should pass a law that specifically bans Tom's .22 - not the model of gun - just HIS gun.
  6. 3 points
    I tend to think it's more apathy than an idealistic sense of powerlessness although maybe, in the end, it's the same thing and i'm splitting hairs. America is a rich country where the majority of people get enough to be fat, happy, and lazy. They don't, and won't, get particularly motivated until something interferes with that foundation of lethargy. That's why both major political parties have turned to their base politics with such fervor. It works. You don't need to convince 60% of the people you're right - you only need to convince 10% of the people TO VOTE. That's enough to carry the primaries and from there, you take your chances in the general. That's always been the Achilles heal of representativeness government. Victory goes to the passionate argument, not the smartest one. You HOPE it's the same, but often enough, it's not. What is different this time around is the degree to which medicine has propagated the old control structures. It's ironic but the Baby Boomers - who should have started turning control over a decade ago, are hanging on tooth and nail with little evidence of displacement. American governance now kind of looks kind of like the British Monarchy with an ancient matriarchal system, seemingly content to just skip over Gen X in favor of the Millennials as a means of validating an eternal hold on personal authority. Immortality by proxy (metaphorically of course). No opportunity means no energy means base vote wins.
  7. 3 points
    ^^^ Three greatest skills for an offshore racer ..don't get sick, sleep through anything and wake before you're needed.
  8. 3 points
  9. 3 points
    How about we just take away gun rights from the paranoid assholes who celebrate school shootings as a reason to talk about .22s?
  10. 2 points
    There seems to be no floor for racism, ignorance, and stupidity on what you can showcase there.
  11. 2 points
    Or just get rid of all guns except for single-shot rifles that require manual re-loading after every shot. National buyback program. Way cheaper than paying for all the damage caused by them. Anyone who wants to keep a gun has to have a background/mental health check re-done yearly at their own expense. No more concealed carry. You don't need to fix the schools, you need to fix the gun problem. The first step is admitting you have one.
  12. 2 points
    Fuck me - you REALLY are living in fantasyland aren't you. Straight out of a video game. You expect 14 year old kids to do that? Or a 5ft nothing 25 yo female teacher? You got to be kidding!
  13. 2 points
    What I don't understand about the NRA position on arming teachers is their consideration of the inevitable consequence of more armed people in school. Who's going to be: 1. The first teacher to shoot a kid for bringing a BB gun or knife or water pistol to school, or just act in a threatening way. 2. The first teacher to discharge his weapon by accident leading to injury, or just shit-scared kids 3. The first teacher to lose his gun or have it stolen by a student and used for something bad 4. The first pistol-packing teacher to face down a shooter with an AR 15 and actually get a shot off before being killed 5. The first teacher to be shot by a cop during the confusion as he is mistaken for the shooter 6. The first teacher to feel brave because he is packing, fail to follow proper lockdown while he is focused on stopping the shooter and get his class killed. The theory that the crazies won't come to school if someone is armed assumes logic on the part of crazy people. You obviously have to be crazy to invade a school with an AR15,; why does the NRA expect crazy people to follow the logic of self-preservation when they have already reconciled themselves to a statistically 0% survival/escape outcome? For an armed teacher to stop a shooter, the shooter has to die - so the teacher has to shoot the person with the gun. Most reasonable, loving teachers are not going to shoot first and ask questions later - they are going to wait until the shooter has actually shot someone in front of them - so now there are two dead people in school - one kid and one crazy person. If you don't let crazy people have guns, no-one gets dead at school - not even the crazy person. The cost of excess zeal in the case of keeping guns from crazy people is that some only slightly crazy and harmless people won't be able to get a gun. On the balance of societal benefit, I'd say that it's better for some slightly crazy or cured crazy people to be light on weaponry, than to load up 1000s of US schools with firearms or armed guards in anticipation of 2 or 3 crazy people acting out their fantasies in a year. I don't believe in the "slippery slope" in any circumstance - it's a really weak argument. Taking guns from crazy people does not initiate a slide on some slippery slope to weakening the 2nd amendment. It's not a slope, and it's not slippery. It's a staircase and without the corrupting influence of gun money, our democracy would be able to find a good resting point somewhere up from the bottom and down from the top that makes no-one happy, but most people a lot safer.
  14. 2 points
    On a four-wire carrier (Nimitz class) you aim for #3 as a good balance. #1 puts the hook closer to the ramp (less vertical clearance) because your touchdown point is further aft; #4 and you risk missing or hook skip...round and round you go. As I recall, the glide slope to the 3 wire puts about 10 feet vertical clearance between the hook and the ramp when you cross the stern. The newer class (Ford) only has 3 wires. I assume they aim for #2 there, but we haven't really operated it full-bore yet. The usual black-shoe approach to CVN flight ops: after watching that for a while, you can keep your flight pay. You earn that. Now, your base pay I have an issue with... (I was an engineer on CVNs for several tours, running the power plants. I've done cats and traps, but only as a passenger.)
  15. 2 points
    The boat is recovered and on the hard, upside down. Bit uncomfortable seeing up close footage of the people, who 6 hours later, had passed on. More coming out about the crew person that was stuck down below. Rescued by a diver from a rescue boat after an hour in, so that would be like 0100 in the morning. going to be plenty coming out with reports of a flare, no reports from the yacht at the 2345 sked and AMSA getting involved 5 minutes later.
  16. 2 points
  17. 2 points
    I’m thinking about where liferafts are mounted on most race boats, easy to do if you’re upright and settling. But when you’re inverted, how easy is it to get to it? then release it amongst sails and sheets everywhere in 3-4mtr swells? My life raft is in a locker behind the starboard helm position right next to the transom, but I don’t know how the boat would rest inverted if it’s a good spot or not. I wouldn’t like to have to go under the boat, and what about positive buoyancy of the container? Shudder. One detail, I think in the early reports it stated a doctor was doing CPR before the recovery. I did that years ago in training and it’s a bitch of a thing to do in a pool. In conditions like that? If this is the case, he deserves a fucking medal just for the attempt.
  18. 2 points
    indeed , his bully boy tactics have neutered the press .
  19. 2 points
    Ugh. We don't accept them. We just aren't used to dealing with them. I knew we were in big trouble right at the beginning when Trump said We're going to deport the illegals. All 11 million of them. Not one reporter figured out how many per day that would be. Not one reporter asked how he would make that happen. Not one reporter asked exactly WHERE they would be deported to. Not one reporter asked any question that would reveal any details about his "plan." The media were in LOVE with him because of ratings. And the stupid people lapped it up.
  20. 2 points
    Any person or boat that finished that race deserves better than to be contested here. Go sail that course yourself sometime before you jump in here like you know what you are talking about. Those are some pretty brutal conditions this year but that is what makes the Caribbean 600 what it is!
  21. 2 points
    Bla bla bla. Time to start a couple dozen new threads blaming Obama and Hillary for everything including the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand.
  22. 2 points
    Tide flows both ways and is very strong, pandora and columbia banks can be nasty in big swells but can be cut inside of if your brave.
  23. 2 points
    Agreed. I have to say that ETNZ are making me pretty nervous right now. I hope they intend to remain righteous.
  24. 2 points
    It simply means the forecast for my future is deteriorating in balance with my downcourse progress. Looks like a giant 4-kt hole has developed for a day from now, which I can't avoid, which used to be 10-12 kt reaching conditions. Such is life. Happens in real sailing too. Still glad I tried something different and avoided the doldrums.
  25. 2 points
    Yes, just about the nastiest, dirtiest, amoral scumbag you would NEVER want to cross paths with. Manafort was, and maybe still is, a Svengali "fixer", for some of the most brutal players in the era when Russian oligarchs made fortunes on the disassembling former Soviet state owned industries, for the love of money. Killing rivals was as normal to them as going to the Post Office for you or I. EDIT: Not to mention him representing and lobbying for, several murderous Third World dictators, and getting the US to see them as nicer than they really were. That is probably worse than what he did for the oligarchs. The oligarchs only killed a few other rich rivals who were also competing for large pieces of the former Soviet industries pie. The Dictators were slaughtering hordes of their political opponents, and detractors, with impunity, yet Manafort made them seem like Boy Scouts, when he brought them to DC, to slurp at the US money trough....
  26. 2 points
    Oh jebus wait till DrugLord sees this He's gonna splurge PeoplesFoiler model pics for days
  27. 2 points
    NY Times - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/24/business/nra-companies-boycott.html Excerpt - Banking Kevin C. Langin, a spokesman for the First National Bank of Omaha, said in a statement on Thursday that customer feedback had prompted a review of its contract with the N.R.A. “As a result, First National Bank of Omaha will not renew its contract with the National Rifle Association to issue the N.R.A. Visa Card,” the statement said. Travel and Transport On Saturday, Delta Air Lines said on Twitter that it was ending its contract with the association for discounted rates through the airline’s group travel program. “We will be requesting that the NRA remove our information from their website,” the company said. United Airlines tweeted a similar message two hours later. Two moving van companies wrote on Twitter on Friday they were severing ties with the N.R.A. Allied Van Lines and North American Van Lines, which share a parent company, Sirva, each said it “no longer has an affiliate relationship with the NRA effective immediately,” and had asked to be removed from its website. Rental Cars A spokesman for Avis Budget Group, which owns the car-rental companies Avis and Budget, said on Friday a discount partnership with the N.R.A. would end by March 26. Hertz said Friday that it was ending its rental car discount program for N.R.A. members. On Thursday, the car rental companies Alamo, Enterpriseand National, which share the parent company Enterprise Holdings, tweeted they would end their discount for N.R.A. members beginning March 26. Insurance MetLife said in a tweet on Friday it was ending a discount program for N.R.A. members. Also on Friday, a spokesman for the insurance company Chubb told Reuters it would no longer have a partnership with the N.R.A. on an insurance program called the “NRA Carry Guard.” The spokesman said Chubb had given notice of this change three months ago. Technology, Information and Security TrueCar, an automobile pricing and information website, said on Friday it was “ending its car buying service relationship” with the N.R.A. at the end of this month. The home security company SimpliSafe once offered two months of free monitoring for N.R.A. members but the company said in an email on Saturday that it had “discontinued our existing relationship with the NRA.” The cybersecurity company Symantec announced on Twitter on Friday that it had ended a discount program with the N.R.A.
  28. 2 points
    Wind over deck is generally between straight ahead (axial) and down the angle depending on how much natural wind. Goal is to get roughly 30 knots of wind over deck. So the more natural wind, the less generated by ship’s speed. High natural wind usually comes with higher seas and the deck starts to move around a bit. Low natural winds mean the wind over deck is more axial and the ship’s speed means the “runway” is always moving slowly to the right so lineup has to be adjusted constantly but not a big deal. Similar to a slight crosswind. Not a huge difference to the approach. The crosswind component is small. Approach speed is 125-140 knots depending on which aircraft and gross weight. That gives a relative speed of around 100 knots so a couple of knots of crosswind isn’t a worry.
  29. 2 points
    I'm pretty sure my hours to finish were 93 when I went to bed last night.. 93 when I got up this morning, and 93 now. That sucks.
  30. 2 points
    Just another day at the office. And they do that at night. Naval aviators are the best there are, no question. Just sitting in the back seat for one of those would be terrifying.
  31. 2 points
    Nope - just the dumbass right wing troll socks. There's a passel of them here.
  32. 2 points
    Thanks SX for this..can you please advise Martin some fans are also doing it really tough as per the following.
  33. 2 points
    I’ll probably post standings this evening. My rankings cohorts have become busy with life and haven’t been able to post their groups. I have two additional boats to keep track of groups A and B, but I haven’t had time every day to capture all three. I should be able to today, but the postings will be more sporadic. I will make sure we get the final standings for this leg.
  34. 1 point
    I don't qualify for either of those at the moment and I am not planning any major changes in the future. As long as there are reasonable people running local club races, life will go on as usual. I do realize that I won't be attending the Cork Sniffer Regatta any time soon.
  35. 1 point
    yeah, and Mom let RQ-Naos gybe away and now he's looking golden
  36. 1 point
    Gropenfuhrer is nether black nor a woman. He is going to stop Brown Spanish speakers and Robe wearing Allah worshippers from taking up places in our society. Thise damned people who went to college thought they could run our country. People who have never been in power sincerely believe they are taking it back!!!!
  37. 1 point
    The bloke who has probably spent as much time as all of us put together "crunching the numbers" has entered a both a (hopefully) bulletproof 60' er & a TP for about the last 3 years. Not sure what your budget is but you could possibly add a good upwind 30 - 35'er to these 2, to cover an upwind year which goes NE on the 3rd day. Oh & you might want to throw a few bucks at the weather man to help you choose. I've done over 20 of these things & had results from the front to the back on both line & handicap with some of the dud results being on boats that should have been up there & some great results on boats that had little chance when we left Sydney. TUBBY
  38. 1 point
  39. 1 point
    Nobody gets into Mara-Lago with a gun , it's well guarded. I'm kinda hoping one of these nutbars takes a shot at Don real soon. I don't want to see him dead but critical would be cool.
  40. 1 point
    Goofy boat design and now they expect to get it up to takeoff speed with this re-baked idea for the sail? Is it April yet?
  41. 1 point
    The gun was invented to kill people at a safer distance than using a sword. You had ONE chance to kill your opponent before his sword could reach you. It was not invented for target practice. The only reason to shoot at bits of paper is to improve your chances of killing a person.
  42. 1 point
    I mentioned that a while back - not to take the slightest away from his courageous actions but you will note that he wasn't alone. " CBC television cameras on the scene recorded over 30 shots fired in the final gunfight.[37] Footage showed a group of RCMP officers converging near the alcove; two loud gunshots are heard, then a large number of gunshots in rapid succession, then silence. A slightly different situation than that faced by the cop in Floriduh.
  43. 1 point
    Sounds like he knew it was a single shooter if he saw the kid enough to call in a description.
  44. 1 point
    Euroflex didn't seem to have any problems with the tide. Some well known sailors made some elementary mistakes that made them look a bit foolish. You obviously know nothing about sailing in tide either. And calling someone a dickhead because you don't agree with his/her POV is hardly intelligent discourse. As F15 said if you don't like sailing in tide then don't, and we will all be the better for it.
  45. 1 point
    I saw a guy who had been shot once, he was quite dead. Found him while working in a remote place, deputies said he was likely on the receiving end of a bad drug deal. Doesnt change my opinion on guns id say. Seem to be a lot of both gun grabberz and gun nutterz among the veteran population as well as cops and doctors. I think your premise is incorrect.
  46. 1 point
    Vendetta was not alloy. Cittadinis' next boat, Valtair, was alloy. That one, a Lyons 55 (?), was later sold to Matt Allen who scored a PHD win in a Hobart with her and she's now residing somewhere in Asia, having changed owners a few times The Inglis 47s Wild Things 1 & 2, Vendetta, Scavenger, Fast Forward and maybe others were strip cedar construction. We got involved with Cittadinis and the legendary Vendetta crew putting the second generation deck on Vendetta when they converted her to a flush-decked day-sailer. She was later converted back to something similar to her original deck plan but I believe has been changed again since. Launched thirty years ago in 1988, she was built pretty tough. Most of those Inglis 47s have had many owners over the years. They were great fun boats to sail and to watch sailing in a good breeze. Hard on the crews when things went pear shaped but exhilarating when they got it right which they mostly did. We put some additional bulkheads in WOT Wild Side when she was owned here in Melbourne by Peter Hansen who had previously owned WT1 for a while. A gung-ho Sydney based delivery skipper with an over-inflated opinion of his skill drove her out of Port Phillip Heads into the teeth of a south westerly gale with far too much sail and bloody near destroyed her dropping off the huge seas running just outside the Bay. His brief had been to get her to Sydney for the Hobart but they rushed her back to us at Knights Slipway in Williamstown for emergency major repairs and ended up doing the Melb-Hobart West Coaster that year. The guys who sanded her bottom for an earlier antifoul reckon Jim got his inspiration for her hull design from his mum's ironing board. She was as flat as a tennis court underneath and just about as big so lots of painful overhead long boarding was required.
  47. 1 point
    I'm not sure we've all got it right on Dennis. Most serious race programs have to race somewhere locally...there just isn't enough "serious" racing going on anywhere to only do the serious stuff. Dennis likes to go out and sail...why not? I like to also. His local area, and is hometown YC is San Diego. Why shouldn't he get to race there? That he occasionally goes out and proves you can take an older PHRF boat, prep it well, and put a well trained crew on it, and do well should be an inspiration to others....or at least that's how I chose to look at it. I may not be able to do that to quite the level Dennis does, but most of us could do the same if we wanted to... Too many people want to bitch about how unfair it is that they can't go race their boat in less than great racing condition and still want to win. Sorry, I have little sympathy for them. Buy a boat you can afford, prep it well, put good sails and gear on it, and go race it 40 times a season, plus practice time...I promise you'll get better...after a year or two, you'll end up regularly on the podium.
  48. 1 point
  49. 1 point
    Good call LB....if nothing else you will have a crew that without exception will do everything in their powers to stay out of a fuckin life raft after having spent only 15 minutes in one in a swimming pool.
  50. 1 point
    Needs no introduction. LH winner in '86.