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  1. 4 points
    The AC has been vastly more relevant, most of its history. It's just that the modern PR hype has ignored the fact that the AC boats used to just be big mainstream racing yachts. The AC foilers are not. In part, the belief that the AC boats were not relevant comes from US experience. It was quite different in England, when even the J-size boats often used to race week in, week out in local regattas. There's also a fair amount of simple PR hype. The AC boats used to be built to existing rules - not to new rules as with the foiling AC boats. The AC boats used to be built to the same rules as the typical smaller boats on the regatta circuits in the USA, UK and other parts of the world - not to unique rules as with the foiling AC boats. That J (or the original) was built to the same Universal Rule as the dozens of Ps, Ns, Ms, Rs and Ss that raced in clubs and regattas across North America. The Metre boats were similar - so similar that 23 Metres and L x SA rule boats were converted into Js. The smaller Universal Rule and Metre Rule boats were the foundation of widespread yacht racing and made up a very large proportion of the entire racing fleet. That's not the case with foilers. The Js and other AC boats also raced against normal club and regatta fleets, especially in the UK. A British AC challenger of the '30s could race at about 20% of the active sailing clubs in the country in a single season. AC boats like Magic, Galatea, Valkyrie II, Endeavour and Vim had long careers as typical big club and regatta cruiser-racers. The AC foilers do not do normal club regattas, and none of them have had careers before and after the AC. Up till and including the J Boat era, for each AC challenger or defender there was at least one boat of similar speed, size and shape that also raced on the regatta circuit, but had nothing to do with the AC. These were boats like Cambria, Velsheda, White Heather II, Britannia, Satanita, Ephygia, Katoura, Navahoe and the early Meteors. That's not the case today - there are no 50 or 72 foot foiling cats out there on the normal racing circuits, and there are not going to be any 75 foot foiling monos taking part in normal events in mainstream regattas like BIRW or Cowes Week. The fact that there were boats that were very similar to the AC boats, which were built without the slightest intention of racing for the AC, shows how close the AC boats used to be to "mainstream" racing. It's as if the AC was being sailed to the IRC or ORCi rules these days. By the time the 12s were selected ocean racing was on the rise, but there were still lots of 8 Metres, 6 Metres, 5 Metres and 10 Metres racing around the world. There were even still M Class events in Cali, so the 12s weren't the biggest and fastest inshore racers of their time. The 12s were still racing as a class in Norway, I think. Eights were racing at class events in Scotland and Seattle. As far away as Australia, there had still been recent national events in 8 Metres and 6 Metres. That's not the case today. There is no 50 foot monofoiler fleet at any regatta. There is no fleet of 50 foot monofoilers racing each week in Sydney, Seattle and the Solent. The simple facts are that the AC boats used to be pretty much mainstream big boats, of similar design, speed and size to many non-AC boats, and built to the same rules as hundreds of smaller boats that did local regattas alongside the AC boats. None of those factors apply with the AC foilers. The AC was much more relevant to the typical sailor in the past.
  2. 2 points
    best way to go out ! glad he had a great life. cheers to you buddy .
  3. 2 points
    Half "the sailing public" is sitting on the rail. New approach to stadium sailing. Take the bleachers along with you.
  4. 2 points
    They all pale into insignificance when compared to the Catholic Church - the worlds largest organised pedophile and criminal organisation. If any government ever proposed to strip all church’s of their tax exempt status they would get my vote. Except the Greens of course but that would require them to actually have a policy so there is little risk of that.
  5. 2 points
    Just remember how f---ing stupid you looked when you started to walk!!! Maybe you didn't change. These ducklings will learn.
  6. 2 points
    I think that could be added to the "bipedal rig" thread. As for the hull shape, I think it is a result of a designer with multiple personalities who was negotiating with him/herself: "Fred - I want a trimaran, Francois - I want a multihull, Freda - I want it to fit in a normal slip, Frank - I want a keel, Forest - I want a mast on every hull, Felicity - I want one mast, Fabio - I want it to look like a Beneteau...." - Stumbling
  7. 2 points
    10 minutes of boat building magic. If this has been posted before, I apologize.
  8. 2 points
    With that one statement he becomes a threat to the country.
  9. 2 points
    So... last night, normal Wednesday evening "Beer Can" series, very light wind, odd-ball course.With 6 minutes to go, we're futzing about looking at different lead positions for the genoa, all the while sailing farther from the line. I think you know what happens next. Satisfied with the genoa leads at last, the helmsman turns back to the line with 2 minutes to go only to find we're way too far away from the line and the wind has just gone from light to non-existent in the localized hole we've managed to locate. Oh, and we're bucking an ebb. Minutes go by and we're no closer to crossing the line. The other boats are already rounding the weather mark. Time passes. While nobody is chewing off anyone's head yet, spirits aren't exactly jubilant. All racing discipline collapses, crew lounging in the cockpit -- stern down -- and every so often someone glances up at the sails and maybe pulls something a little bit. So I made a snacktical decision and went down to the galley and the freshly refurbished and fully functional refrigerator and silently started passing up cans of Hazy Little Thing IPA and tall-boys of PBR. Our spirits picked up at the same time as the wind slightly picked up, we made the line, headed off for the weather mark and rounded along with everyone else on the 2nd or 3rd lap. Good set and time for another round of drinkses. Good gybe, good douse, good rounding, time for more drinkseses. By that time the wind and the time limit ran out simultaneously so we fired up the diesel and furled everything and stowed everything neatly en route to the barn. To paraphrase Freewheelin' Franklin: "Beer will get you through times of no wind better than wind will get you through times of no beer."
  10. 1 point
    Greig City Academy’s Scaramouche, the first state school to complete the Rolex Fastnet Race and Tracey Edwards Maiden. A lovely site to see these on the water.
  11. 1 point
    Disagree. Everyone spies on everyone and everyone tries to manipulate everyone. There is no evidence at all that China or Russia would be overcome with kindness and leave us alone if we suddenly stopped doing what we do. Not interfering with other countries politics might be a good thing to do or it just might concede the game to whatever other country is trying to do the same thing there What DOES need to happen is we need to be able to defend ourselves from such interference and somehow get actual Americans involved in politics again that would recoil in horror at the very idea of leveraging foreign intelligence services to get one up on a political rival. There was once a time I was proud and happy to mostly vote Republican and I never ever imagined them deciding Russia was their friend and American Democrats, the CIA, FBI, and Justice Department their enemy.
  12. 1 point
    cool! the event is coming up on September 15-16.
  13. 1 point
    I do agree with him saying it's pretty weak for the US to play the victim card, after all the nasty shit we have done in the past, and continue to do, to influence MANY other nations politics, and policies.
  14. 1 point
    Allegedly 15 knots of wind. There's an awful lot of daylight underneath that hull.
  15. 1 point
    i feel on the other hand...these boats are boring in the pre-start, will maneuver poorly when going slow(not foiling) and once one boat gets in the lead, it seems to be over, barring any crash. if any boats touches the water and is not foiling, they will be beaten by the other boat. in other words, the one that foils the most wins. kind of takes the sailing strategy out, and replaces it with boat handling. sure they go fast, and the technology is insane, but to win the america's cup, i would rather see the best sailing team win, not the luckiest team in a particular race.
  16. 1 point
    was it 'keels' or 'keel' I thought one, did I miss something? I believe that flaw was identified and also found to be singular.
  17. 1 point
    First of all, there will be a lot less of it. On the production boats they try to avoid painted surfaces so everything has a secondary (and tertiary) surface. It's wood everywhere. We found areas that had 5-6 pieces of plywood sandwiched together (drawer slide mount, cabinet sidewall, cabinet divider, cabinet sidewall, drawer slide mount). We're going for paint or SeaDek on the hull surface itself. The furniture that we WILL have will be foam/carbon that's painted clear or white. We won't have any drawers and sliders, we'll have cubby holes instead. There's a reason the early SA Gunboats were so light. We are going back to that aesthetic. The stern steps have been rebuilt. Again, production builders hate fairing/painting boats (it's expensive) so everything has to be "A" side. That means a lot of secondary cored panel surfaces along for the ride. We ditched the cockpit and aft step coaming and saved about 200kgs, while making the aft steps wider and more ergonomic. Kind of a no-brainer. The infused hatch recesses were all resin, so brittle and fussy. We cut those out altogether. The existing soles had to come out to cut out the centerboard trunks. The plan was to put them back in, but the hull/floor connection was shit, and the floor had about 1/2" of fairing on it. We cut almost all of the floors out, put in floor stringers, and will have loose floorboards. I've always wanted a cat with loose floorboards. Below-sole system access will be great, and the floorboards can be faired and painted off the boat, so easy to fair light and paint well. No. It was Dirk's idea, and I think he's pretty used to putting great ideas out into the world.
  18. 1 point
    You will find me raising my eyebrows at why certain things are safety requirements. This is not one of those things. The best option to get rescued if you're an MOB is the boat that you fell off of. AIS is for live recoveries. PLBs are for body recovery
  19. 1 point
    Here's a shot of the bow before I left for Maine. Lots of fine tuning and prep to do before painting...
  20. 1 point
    My parenting style and it's results summed up in 3 posts. Amen brothers.
  21. 1 point
    The film game can be like that. For the scene in the Gym we each had to supply our own schoolgirl.
  22. 1 point
  23. 1 point
    22 FOOT SAILBOAT COMVERTED ALL FIBERGLASS HULL Now we know what "comverted" means. I think we have all seen it many times, on this thread, and the Mocking Craig's List thread, but we didn't know the word for it. Now we know. COMVERTED: Using a perfectly good boat hull, and numerous non-marine components, to construct but not necessarily complete, a weird, funky looking, barely sea-worthy boat that no one in their right mind would take for free.
  24. 1 point
    Probably got his tongue stuck to one in the winter.
  25. 1 point
    What I find hilarious is that the same guys who complain about women being prudes are so often the same guys who slut-shame a woman whenever she does anything remotely sexual. It's like: "hey dipshits, guess why the ladies are prudes? BECAUSE YOU FUCKING SLUT SHAME THEM WHENEVER THEY DO ANYTHING SEXUAL!" I swear to god, dudes can be such fucking morons.

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