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  1. 28 points
    I participated in the search yesterday and it is time to speak up to counter all the arm chair quarter backs... I made a no go decision with the boat owner (who brought me up to help with the race) Friday night due to rigging issues. I was sitting at the bar enjoying a dark and stormy when the MOB call came in. Staring me in the face was an 86’ Viking with a three level fly bridge. My first thought was that would be a great boat to help in the search. I decided to see if the owner and/or captain were on boat and ask if they’d be willing to help. Both were on board, visiting from Florida, and immediately they agreed to assist in the search. We hailed the USCG, they gave coordinates, and we went out. The search grid was only 5 miles from CYC. USCG had us set up a 1.5 mile east/west and .2 mile south turn grid pattern. We did this until the USCG called off the search. I was on the fly bridge with binocs actively looking the entire time. The weather was ridiculous with breaking waves and spray from the waves were blowing over the top of fly bridge. After a couple of hours, I identified one target about 500 yards off our bow and my heart skipped a beat. Unfortunately, it turned out to be a black rubber fender. There were over 20 boats and three helicopters out there running crossing grids over nearly 50 square miles. Until you have done a search pattern in weather, you have no clue what it is like search for a needle in a haystack. And completely impossible to locate any targets at night in those conditions. The Imedi team continued to search well past the USCG calling off the search (after nearly 8 hours). It was sobering, and if you weren’t out there, keep your bullshit speculation to yourself. A huge thank you to David who owns the Viking 86 (pictured) for not hesitating to go out and burn $1000’s in fuel to helo in the search.
  2. 26 points
    Sweet of you to say J I miss you all very much, even snaggy. My time working for SA, especially before the lawsuit and then our family fertility problems, when it was still me and Mer on the road, was some of the best of my life. The network of amazing people we built continues to be a source of great friendship for me today. To be around as the sailing media found its way in a new world, to be around to witness the birth of sportboats and foiling, the mainstreaming of multihulls, the drama of Larry vs. Ernesto, all the amazing stories and events we worked - it was a real privilege. I only made about a third of my income from SA, the rest came from commentary and photo/video/social services for classes, events and manufacturers, and I ignored a key fact about working on the road - most of your work comes from working on the road. So when we had Josephine and I cut back on my travel, I found it hard to get enough gigs to pay for my family. I still work with a handful of companies and events that I really like, so you'll still see me in Charleston, Chicago, and possibly Tokyo. But that's now mostly just for fun and to take my daughter someplace interesting. No more begging rich people for work. I spent the last year helping a friend start up several commercial growing operations. That was fun and lucrative and I now have a ridiculous library of genetics, but once the setup is over, it's all pretty dull, and after they did their private placement, it became just another corporate gig. And now, after missing a great deal of my young daughter's life, I've gotten rid of the Delta Skymiles card and am sitting in an office making paper and wearing my lawyer hat again. Right now I am drafting a construction loan agreement and lease for a new bank for a firm full of nice people and easy going management. It's not St. Maarten, but it ain't bad when I got this to come home to. Much love to you all, even to the bitches and the haters
  3. 26 points
    thanks for the comments and sentiments, one and all. Even the fat and old one This race was everything and more than I ever expected. It was an unbelievable and awesome experience. I hope some of my scribblings were able to share the adventure, and provide some amusement and entertainment. Sunday was all about getting to the dock, having a meal and then falling asleep. Monday was a scramble to get the boat sorted and entertain a couple classrooms of kids who came down to the docks to see me and Dragon. Then Rob Windsor, Mark and Eileen Washeim all shoved off for Key West. As of this evening, they are off the USVI. A flight home for me this morning, and in the office this afternoon. Jack was correct about the strategy and my decision, and with 20/20 hindsight I think I sailed an almost perfect course for my boat and the conditions. Better to be lucky than good, I guess. With another 20 miles of runway on the last day, I probably would have caught Tibco. No small feat given that 123 is (in my view) the most versatile design in the fleet. Chocolat Paries might have been in play, but everyone else was frankly out of reach after the first few days. I feel real good about the outcome.
  4. 25 points
    Eight years ago today we lost Spike Perry. The SLIVER project was started just about that time. The project was then dedicated to the memory of Spike. The Spike Burgee will fly on FRANCIS LEE today.
  5. 25 points
    OK...so I've nearly sobered up... and want to say a few things to the SA team that have followed the Voodoo story. Firstly - Thank you for your support and input! From the outset I've put thoughts and rough ideas into this group for consideration and feedback...I've been very upfront about our thoughts and had some valued responses. This group is an amazing source of information for those that are prepared to take the risk!! I won't mention names, but right from our outset with the Cookson 12 training platform, there has been great knowledge shared here...and we have benefitted from the experience of the group. The rationale of choosing an R/P in the 60-70 ft range has been absolutely vindicated...our amateur (mates, family & has beens) program made us a tight team. Adrienne C as navigator was a perfect compliment to our outfit - that woman is the best - generous with her knowledge, professional, friendly, committed as a team player....most importantly a great communicator prepared to share that experience and mentor....cant say enuff about her value to a crew! Anyway....to all the SA honorary Voodoo croo members out there....thanks so much...it's been an awesome ride...and who knows, maybe we'll get to do it again in the Transpac. Happiest New Year... stay safe Couta out!! Voodoo 8th - Line Honours 3rd - IRC O'all 1st - IRC Div 1 3rd - ORCi O'all 1st - ORCi Div 2
  6. 22 points
    Hardly hollow, they sailed within the rules, WOXI didn't. If WOXI had NOT been protested THEIR's would have been the hollow AND undeserved victory. I really don't get the concept that winning by breaking the rules is cool and that winning by exercising your rights under the rules is not cool? No wonder our sport is not booming. SS
  7. 21 points
    Hi all, First thanks to @Volodia for contacting @clean to unban me. Got kicked in January without warning or reason, probably by the Editor for reasons unknown. I missed sharing with you all the stuff that happened in the infamous leg with a MOB, mast overboard and the close call win by Bouwe who finally got his mojo back. All I have to do now is to go through 400+ posts to catch up a bit. SC, make that a "Schakel" - it's a small open boat class designed in 1961 in The Netherlands made out of multiplex. https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schakel_(zeilboot) Get me on that list! And make sure that the Editor reads it too
  8. 19 points
    Oh please. During the summer, I do most of my sailing in a bikini or monokini, especially if there's a likelihood of capsizing. I do that because it's hot and I don't want to be coated in salt-sticky wet clothing if I capsize. Also makes it easier to jump over the side if one needs to "use the ladies room". I realize there is a risk of this sort of thing as a result, but your "she asked for it" line is garbage. I'm quite certain none of her reasons for wearing a bathing suit were: I'd like my crotch on sailing anarchy. Because literally no girl wants that. And that's coming from someone who has appeared in a zillion bikini sailing photos and numerous times on the front page. As I said in another thread elsewhere, as someone who sails in a bikini, this is totally my worst nightmare. We all know it's possible, and we are accepting that risk when we do it, but to suggest that we *want* that to happen or are *requesting* it to happen is bull and you know it. Also, pretty much every teen female junior sailor at my club sails in a bathing suit. Would the suggestion be that these 13 and 14 year olds are also asking for it?
  9. 19 points
    Last evening I borrowed a boat and took a good friend and his 5-year-old daughter out for her first sail, out on Lake Pontchartrain. Beautiful evening, brisk easterly, beautiful rain clouds around lit up by the sun where we were. I figured her attention span would be short, so after about 20 minutes close-reaching away from shore, we tacked back in. As we got closer to the breakwater, she said, "I wanna go back". Well, both her dad and I assured her we were going back, see the harbor? Not. She wanted to go back *out*. So we did. She loved it. One of my best sails in recent memory.
  10. 18 points
    IPLore - I am one of the CEO from RS Sailing (we have 2). I do not really write on forums by your post pretty much sums it up. We have lost this one and we always knew taking on the largest class in the World would not be easy. Change is tough. We completely understand how smaller MNA would struggle and that is why we spent so much time on a transitional plan. You are right, it did hurt (only for a short while) but on Sunday evening on my way home all I felt was pride - We had a go, did it with a smile and made some friends on the way - This is the RS way. It was a real team effort. So we can walk away with our head held high and go back to growing the brand - as you said 'sailor by sailor, club by club, boat by boat BUT I do not see it as the hard way - This is the fun. It is what we have done for 25 years and what we will continue to do...it is why we love what we do. From RS Tera to RS Aero to RS21 we will continue to get more sailors on the water. As a team we reflected today on the pass few weeks and I can honestly we feel like winners. The support we have had from around the world has been unbelievable....and for all those that have liked, comments etc...thank you Jon - RS
  11. 18 points
    Sometimes there are some strange markings on the nautical chart. This time it is a 'ringdyke. I know the place, my mother grew up in this new polder. A few days before WW2 ended the retrieving German troops mined the dyke and blew two holes in it. The polder flooded and all inhabitants had to evacuate. I grabbed some of the material I could make and find and composed a very short historic document. Enjoy! The polder flooded
  12. 18 points
    I was on shore for my live interview show, and then live with the ABC Grandstand radio for the start. Channel 7 has full rights to all live vision - so there was really no point going on the water. I am not allowed to even do live Instagram stories. I had two sidekicks on the water sending me vision and intel so that I could tell you guys what was happening, and the ABC were cool enough to let me live stream our commentary that was going to national radio to my Facebook in exchange for me staying on shore to help them out That broadcast only went to five minutes after the start, so I just kept it rolling for you all on Facebook. Was the absolute best that I could do! About to board the plane, and will keep you posted as often as I can x I am working with the CYC as of yesterday afternoon to help with some of their social media coverage, but they have more hired me as a talent - I will still be doing my own coverage thanks to the support of Musto, Harken and North. Happy Hobart everyone thank you for following - the more you watch and share, the more I events I can cover around the World for you guys x
  13. 18 points
    I joined this forum 15 years ago. I owned a C+C 3t III and I had just done my very first offshore race that year. My ignorance dwarfed my intelligence and I was sorely lacking in the skills department 15 years later and I still feel as if I want some floaties as I swim in the deep end. And yet today, I sat on a stage with legends like Peyron, Beyou, L'Cleach, Riou, Joyon, Coville, Thompson, Gabart, Davies, Sharp and a hundred other skippers who I am in awe of. It hardly seemed real, the amount of talent and experience that was on all sides. I have been a bit reluctant to talk to much about this race since so much can go wrong before you get even close to the starting line, but I feel like the fanboy who got the golden ticket. I can't wait for the next 38 days to get behind us. I can't wait to line up against these sailors.
  14. 18 points
    We're not the important constituency right now. The MOB, the family, his teammates, the other boats. If delaying us finding out the outcome by even one minute means they can devote that minute to SAR coordination and increase his chances of being found then I'll take not finding out for a year.
  15. 18 points
    Sure, there are some nice safe-for-special-widdle-snowflakes sailing web sites. On some of them, you can get decent advice from some real sailors, and of course the carefully vetted comments of armchair admirals. But if you actually read this thread for content, you'll find that you've already gotten some real advice Here on Sailing Anarchy, you get guys who have sailed around the world, guys who have sailed in world championships, sailmakers, delivery skippers. naval architects, guys who daysail/race around buoys at their home club; and there are a armchair sailors mixed in but they tend to out themselves with not knowing stuff that real sailors know. You get somebody posting a picture "I found this old Polaroid in a drawer from summer vacation in the early 1970s, what kind of boat is that" and not only will a dozen guys know what kind of boat it is, the guy who was sailing that boat that day chimes in. To quote on of the greatest SA'ers, "this isn't Sailing Nicey-Nice." It's a tough environment for bullshitters. It's a tough environment for thin-skinned wanna-bees. It's often funny as shit though. Your nigger comment was not funny. If you actually want to learn, swallow some pride and pull up a chair. If not, go fuck yourself. If you ever actually sail offshore, you'll find that the sea is less forgiving than we are. FB- Doug
  16. 17 points
    The crew on my boat are incredible mariners and human beings and should be very proud of themselves. We were running search grids for around 3 hours I think. Conditions were 20kts sustained gusting to 26 in the search area. Waves were minumum 5 ft with 8-9ft sets rolling through. You couldn't see anything in the unless you were on top of it, including the deployed MOM-8. Wind was blowing hard enough to crease the inflatable pole over. This could've been because we didn't find/see it until approx 2 1/2 hours after it was deployed. Being on a SAR is a weird shitty feeling. All we wanted to do is find this person and get them home to their family. If you see something in the water your adrenaline goes sky high in hopes that its what you are looking for and the MOB is going to be alive and well and stoked to see you. We thought we found him at one brief point but it was a blue throwable. Finding that, and then the MOM-8 gave us hope, but we were unable to find him. For the safety of my crew, we retired from the search just before dusk, it was a very quiet ride in. Myself and my entire crew express our deepest sympathy for the family, friends and crewmates of the sailor lost yesterday.
  17. 17 points
    Actually, IMPROBABLE's tiller was 7', laminated of Kauri like the rest of her hull. In breeze-on conditions under spinny, it took 2, even 3 drivers pushing and pulling on opposite sides of the tiller. In the '71 Fastnet, running back from the Rock in a SW gale, we were the only boat to carry a spinnaker the whole way, Ron Holland, Commodore Tompkins, Dave Wahle and myself power assisting each other at the Red Rocket's helm. No roundups, the only Admirals's Cup boat we couldn't catch was the well sailed RAGAMUFFIN, overall Fastnet winner. We had some sterling racing Down Under in '73-'74 against the likes of INCA, APOLLO, RAGS, LOVE&WAR, QUICKSILVER, PROSPECT of WHITBY, RUNAWAY, et.all. But the really good stuff was against D'arcy's 45 foot TEQUILA, which was the same speed as IMPROBABLE and well sailed by the entire Whiting family and long time crew. As IMPROBABLE's skipper I had a front row seat to D'arcy Whiting's bottomless supply of practical jokes, many on himself. The first was the day TEQUILA arrived in Sydney after a Trans-Tasman delivery, her entire cabin floor stacked 3 high with cases of beer for the anticipated Aussie Christmas beer strike before the S2H. D'arcy brought TEQUILA into the CCA docks under a good head of steam, throwing her into reverse at the last moment. Only there was no reverse. We watched in astonishment as TEQUILA rode up and over the dock like an ice-breaker. No problem. D'arcy and crew got TEQUILA backed off the splinters in time to host the entire yacht division of the uniformed Sydney customs crew of 8 for a little piss up in TEQUILA's cockpit. They were expecting TEQUILA's arrival with great anticipation! A few weeks later, after the 1973 S2H, TEQUILA and IMPROBABLE faced off in the Hobart-Auckland Race, D'arcy and crew were set on breaking KIALOA II's record of 8 day's 2 hours. TEQUILA and IMPROBABLE had a ding-dong battle out the Derwent, running side by side under spinnaker. Then we saw it ahead, the mean looking, low clouds of an incipient Southerly Buster moving quickly our way. Even though running in a pleasant NW breeze, we let TEQUILA escape ahead while double reefing and changing to the #5 jib on IMPROBABLE. As the Southerly Buster hit, we could just see TEQUILA a mile ahead pirouette under spinnaker, and take off downwind, in the wrong direction, up the Derwent, bow wave foaming. IMPROBABLE and TEQUILA passed going in opposite directions, about 5 boat lengths apart .....I could clearly see D'arcy frozen at the wheel, struggling to control TEQUILA while her crew figured out what to do to get the spinnaker down and the boat turned around. That was the last we saw of TEQUILA. In typical rugged Tasman conditions, IMPROBABLE set a new, unofficial record from Hobart to Cape Reinga of 7 days, and finished off Auckland Harbor's Orakei Wharf at sunrise. There was a welcoming crowd of thousands, and we were live on the radio. I'd never seen anything like it. In answer to some of the above questions, IMPROBABLE's transom rudder, built by New Zealand surfboard shaper Rodney Davidson, was scrapped after her win in the '73 Jamaica Race. We were headed to England as a 1 boat Admiral's Cup Team representing New Zealand, and the new IOR rule did not treat the transom rudder with any favor. IMPROBABLE was impounded in CUBA by Fidel's troops when her trans-Atlantic delivery skipper, Ron Holland, cut the western tip and got into local waters for a better view. Fortunately, Ron's wife, Laurel, had a supply of Playboys for just such an eventuality, a bribe ensued, and IMPROBABLE and crew got the hell out of there. NEW WORLD, George Kiskaddon's 68 foot John Spencer designed ultra light schooner, was lost on a reef in Micronesia sometime in the late 70's under new ownership.
  18. 17 points
    Brian has been well respected at times, and had participated in the Whitbread, managed teams, and organised races. However he has become increasingly bitter as he has become less relevant. He threatened to sue, maybe he is still trying to, his business partner from the GOC. As far as I can tell that has gone nowhere. The book he wrote about having the race stolen from him seems to have gone the same way. He is evenly balanced, having a chip on both shoulders, and seems to find verification in spouting mistimed, ill informed, badly researched, and badly written, drivel in an attempt to stay relevant. He knows full well that with a case like this there will be an official enquiry. No doubt he will try and get involved with that as he desperately clings to the yachting industry. As others have pointed out he uses his articles to show that he still counts by saying 'told you so', despite the fact that he often contradicts himself. The fact that he has used the death of a colleague, and friend, as a way of continuing his clutch on the sailing industry is frankly disgusting, and maybe slightly unhinged.
  19. 16 points
    There's a piece of multihull history that's just begging to be told. I've been following this story from the sidelines for several years now. The story of this boat serves as an important lesson about the yachting industry, as well as a turning point in the history of Gunboat, but there are so many subplots and twists to this boat's past, involving so many characters...and the best part is the story is still unfolding. A development this morning gave me a good laugh so I decided I had to share. In the Gunboat South Africa era (2005/6?) a pair of brothers from Latin America approached PJ about buying a Gunboat 62/66. The brothers loved the design but felt the price tag was too steep. Pj assured them that they could never build a boat like a Gunboat for less money, anywhere, and his offering was the best deal going. To try and close the deal PJ (apparently) comped a week's charter aboard Gb6202 Safari (IIRC). The two parties had gotten down to details in the contract but the $3.4m (or whatever the price was) was just too high. The brothers figured PJ was making heaps of money at that price and they wanted a deeper discount than Pj could offer. Despite the free charter, negotiations stalled. Around that same time, PJ decided to stretch the 62 tooling to 66 feet (basically in order to accommodate more equipment and offer more luxury). Now...PJ and MM had had an agreement where MM would get royalties from every GB62 sold...but PJ argued that he was no longer selling 62's, he was selling 66's, so MM was no longer entitled to royalties. Pj told MM to go pound sand. That obviously wasn't a popular decision with MM. Back to the brothers...Frustrated with negotiations with PJ, the brothers approached MM asking if MM would sell a "likeness" of the GB62 design. The brothers wanted to have a GB62 built themselves (without all of the cream that they thought PJ was skimming). MM figured any sense of loyalty between PJ and MM was sorta out of the window so they happily helped. MM changed the bow profile, some corners were rounded, some construction details were changed...but it was a GB62v.2 in spirit if not in name. The brothers went to several builders before settling on Lyman Morse in Maine (back when JB Turner was still there, before JB left for Front Street). PJ was furious that he'd been "betrayed" by MM. He'd spent $100's of thousands on design for the Gunboat 62, he'd spent months trying to close these guys, he had comped a charter, the sale was HIS fish to land, it was HIS design to sell. To MM, after the 62/66 royalty situation, it was the quick and the dead. "Mala" was the final and definitive nail in the coffin for the relationship between GB and MM (though their relationship had apparently been on the rocks for a long time). That breakup ended up driving PJ and GB to Nigel Irens Design for the Gunboat 78 (started in SA), then later the GB60 (China) and finally the GB55 (USA). The GB/MM era was over. Some would argue (including myself) that Gunboat never found its footing after the split with MM. MM would have to wait until the HH line to find commercial success in the market segment again, when MM and Hudson would join forces to settle their blood feud with PJ. As for the not-a-Gunboat 62, "Mala Conducta" was wildly overbudget and way behind schedule. The "outrageous" $3.4m that PJ had been offering for a Gunboat was a bargain in comparison to the (reported) $7m that "Mala" ended up costing. (That excludes the very real possibility that the brothers would've been victims of GB's bankruptcy in SA if they'd gone with PJ...but ignore that fact for rhetorical purposes). Despite the cost and delays the boat was fantastic. I got to see her not long after launch (2009?) and went for a sail. She was heads and shoulders better than any comparable Gunboat of her day. Interior finish was beautiful, the styling updates were perfect. She was the best boat Gunboat never built. There were teething issues (as you'd expect). They snapped a rudder or two, they had issues with the rudder cassettes, but the boat was fast and strong. Before you knew it she was off to the Caribbean and onward to Panama. As for GB/PJ, by the time Mala launched PJ/GB had gone out of business in S. Africa (PJ insists it doesn't count as a bankruptcy, though many would contest that characterization. A difference without a distinction, maybe?). The global economy was melting down and orders were canceling left and right. In truth, PJ had never really been making money hand over fist the way the brothers had assumed, or even making money at all. Even though he had 4 boats under build, without new orders he couldn't finish the boats that he already had contracts for. It turned out buying a Gunboat 62 at a loss for PJ actually WAS a good deal. The first GB "bankruptcy" in SA had revealed the Ponzi scheme nature of boatbuilding. Borrow from Paul to pay Peter in this case, I guess. In the end, Gunboat would go bankrupt 3 more times, repeating the same Ponzi scheme over and over again ("FAKE NEWS! Not bankruptcies!" PJ is yelling at his computer screen somewhere). Having seen behind the curtain, though, I'm much more sympathetic to PJ's difficulties. It's just really fucking hard to build a boat "on time, on budget, on spec", especially if there's some expectation of profitability or a sustainable business model. About a year after launch "Mala Conducta" was struck by lightning in Panama. Structurally the boat was ok but the electrical system was plagued by issues. "Mala" was an early adopter of Lithium batteries and networked electrical systems. They backtracked to Curaçao to haul out and fix the boat. They flew some techs down from Maine to work on her and at some point during her refit the Lithium batteries caught fire. The contractors barely had time to get off before the boat was engulfed in flames. In a stroke of unfortunate luck, Curaçao has some excellent firefighting equipment as a result of oil refinery/fuel storage industry on the island. Instead of spraying water on the burning boat (which wouldn't have worked) they used chemical (foam?) to extinguish the fire. That meant they put the fire out moments before the boat was inarguably a total loss. It had the appearance of a boat, but it wasn't a boat. The resin had burned out, the foam was gone, but the "shell" was intact. I was told you could push your finger through the deck. Below shoulder-height the boat was "fine" but the main bulkhead was toast, the ceiling/deck was scorched, the jack stands had punched through the flooded hulls. To the insurers (reluctant to pay out on a $5m+ claim) it was a repair job. To everyone else it was a total loss. Engineers were flown in, boatbuilders, etc. and no one wanted to touch the project. The insurance claim went to court where it languished for about a decade. The story went quiet. Throughout the saga I followed the story out of sheer morbid curiosity, but I continued paying attention long after the fire because I wanted to believe there was an opportunity there. A power cat! A cheap Hall mast! A sailing cat using a kite instead of a mast! But alas...there's nothing more expensive than a cheap boat. I talked with the guys at MM, I talked to the skipper, the broker, everyone said it was trashed. I was told nearly a year ago that the case had been resolved and the assets would be for sale but I didn't make a move. There was no play to be made and I passed on whatever opportunity might exist. That's why I was so surprised when I saw that a couple of hippies bought it about 6 months ago. They also have a Lagoon 560 that they seemingly live on full time. https://m.facebook.com/Ocean.Nomad/ They managed to get both engines running, jury rigged a stumpy alloy pole for a makeshift mast, strapped the Hall mast on deck, repaired the obvious holes, and splashed the boat. They excitedly put a call out on FB looking for volunteers to crew from Curaçao to the US (in convoy with their other cat). They set sail...and...it seemed to be working! They sailed around Cuba, cruised the Bahamas, and made it to Savannah. Their FB posts showed them hiking waterfalls, swimming with the pigs in Staniel, basically living the dream. It was never revealed what they paid for it, but for a heartbeat I thought "Damn, maybe they DID get a deal and I missed it!" That thought was brief, though. I knew that any refit would be in the millions. There was no deal there. Inevitably the project would be abandoned. It was just a matter of time. That's why I got such a good laugh this AM. The project is for sale, "any reasonable offer considered". https://yachthub.com/list/boats-for-sale/used/sail-catamarans/morrelli-and-melvin-62-luxury-performance-sailing-cat-mala-conducta/231214 I feel bad for the hippies. I'm sure this adventure HAS been an adventure, but it must've also been expensive and time consuming. Any "adult in the room" would've told them to save their money and spend their time elsewhere. It seems to me like this boat has some bad karma wrapped up in it. Luckily for them, they seem to be pulling the plug before the bleeding gets to be too bad. Anyway, this story has been going on for years now. It's like "the Giving Tree" by Shel Silverstein. The drama keeps unfolding, each chapter more tragi-comic than the last. Eventually, maybe someone will hire a bulldozer to turn this boat into landfill, or maybe someone with more money than sense will fix it for real. Either way, it'll be interesting to see how this story ends. What's the lesson? Buy used. Or buy new from a billionaire who doesn't care about profit. Or don't buy a cheap used boat. Or don't start a high-end boatbuilding business without a bankruptcy lawyer on speed dial. I dunno. That's the "Mala Conducta" story.
  20. 16 points
    "No taxation without representation" should be a reasonably familiar rallying cry to most Americans. The bottom line with Brexit is that the EU is a non-democratic body that sets rules that folks have to live by, but have no say in creating. If you doubt me, pick any rule you like and figure out who you might vote for to support it, or oppose it. If you can't identify a representative that you can directly impact with your vote, then you are not living in a democracy. The EU is a benign dictatorship designed with the sole purpose of stopping Germans taking panzer rides to France via Belgium. The reason that the Europeans are so hysterical and want to "punish" the Brits for leaving is because they equate weakening the EU with an existential threat to peace in Europe. That same reason is why they have given up their own sovereignty to an unelected bureaucracy - it keeps the people well away from making stupid decisions, like cheering-on genocidal loonies gassing 6M people or invading Russia in autumn without food or warm boots. Or shooting old ladies from rooftops in Srebenica or rounding up thousands of fighting age men and shooting them in the back of the head in the forest or...... Brits have their own dis-functional governmental system that stops them doing shitty things to everyone except the Irish. They don't need to pay for an unelected Frenchman, a dithering Dutchman and a monstrous mobile cadre of grey-men who's average location is somewhere between Strasbourg and Brussels. All that - and I'm actually a "remainer". Scooter doesn't know shit either - Brexit is not racist, it's perceived self interest.
  21. 16 points
    Not sailing last weekend in the Fox Island Thoroughfare, Penobscot Bay, Maine. Fall, best light for photos, is here.
  22. 16 points
    Who gives a rat's ass what someone else has on their head? Go back to Junior High if you do. And say hi to the Ed while you're there.
  23. 15 points
    Suggestions: Don't quote the troll. You will be quickly dealt with by Jack and/or Mad. Try to read what was written above thread before posting. Not doing so is called a Schackel. Direct all VOR related factual questions to Stief and all technical questions to Francis Vaughn. Try to sync with Jack's posting cycle. Earlier the better. Especially avoid contact at the end of a 24 hour binge. Also, avoid making lustful comments about Sophie. Use the quote tool to highlight text rather than quoting the whole, sometimes large posts. Some live in remote regions of the world with no running water or bandwidth. Give the newbies a fair shake (unless they are complete douche bags). We need more locals and boots on the ground. When posting drunk, give a heads up please. Shit fights are inevitable. The Ignore Button is your friend. Start a new thread when a topic takes a life of it's own. Some topics are frowned upon including " how wet the boats are" and Brian Handoncock. Oh, and Sophie. Some members are off limits including: Stief, Norbowgirl, Potter, Elisa, Rennmaus, JBC, Shanghai Sailor, Forss for all their much appreciated contributions. The rest can fend for themselves including myself 'who is gonna get shite for writing all this in the first place.
  24. 15 points
    There really are some stupid subjective, ingnorantly written or emotionally charged comments here. OK -Time to put this to bed... 1. The incident - A poorly executed leebow? Hesitation during a cross? Hesitation in a slam dunk? Poor on board comms between the after guard? Who knows? Who cares? We've all been there. People make mistakes. Get over it. 2 The rules - Rule 13, simple. Only Rules 13, 14 and rule 16.1 are considered. The jury concluded that LDVC did not change course, so 16.1 can be ruled out. LDVC acted to avoid contact, and there was no collision, so rule 14 out.They concluded that LDVC had to take action to avoid while WOXI was tacking. That's all. No point in discussing rule 10 now. That expired when WOXI passed HTW. No point in discussing rule 15. That only occurs after WOXI reached close-hauled. No point in discussing 16.2. At no time was WOXI sailing to pass astern of LDVC. 3. Not taking a penalty - That is the right of any boat. If they believe that they did not break a rule, or were not sure because it was close (and judging by this discussion it was), then they have a right to take their chances in the protest room. This does not represent poor sportsmanship or even foolishness. It is in the rules for them to do. Both parties (including WOXI agree that it was close, with WOXI crew proposing a 50/50 situation). If they knew they had broken a rule, then yes, we could question sportsmanship. In this case, no. Move along. In reflection, they may have misjudged how close it was, and kick themselves for that. We may all have acted differently. It probably was a poor risk/reward judgement. However, at the time, her decision to continue was justified and within the rules and principals of sportsmanship, since they thought they had not broken a rule, or were not convinced enough to take a penalty at the time. Her right to make that call. 4 The Protest - Nothing wrong with LDVC's decision to take this to the room. It is a fundimental principal of all competitors to enforce the rules. That's all she did. Not doing that is possibly more destructive to the sport. Furthermore, if you believe in the rules and that they are a part of the sport, then you should fully support her decision to go ahead (for whatever motives - win, principals, morals, sponsor pressure, etc...) with the protest. Both boats agreed to be bound by the rules; those rules include the protest and penalty procedure. 5. The Time Penalty - Of course it needs to be more than 5 minutes in order to be a penalty! Duh! The penalty must be in line with the penalty system of the event. In the SIs for this event specify penalties ranging from 5 minutes minimum to DSQ. In between those extremes are 20% for not submitting a declaration, 30% for an offshore breach of Part 2 and OCS, 40% as maximum time penalty, and then DSQ for the most heinous of crimes. It stands to reason that the time penalty for an inshore breach of Part 2 should be somewhere between not submitting a declaration on time, and the offshore Part 2. So 20-30% of position in her division. That's what the jury did. Her time penalty worsened her IRC Div 0 position by about 20-30% of all the IRC Div 0 boats. Discretionary Penalties (DPs) are becoming more popular. There is even a new scoring code for it. The principal suggests that not all rule breaches are the same. That seems sensible. Good practice is still being developed. If DP is to be used, Race Organisers and Juries need to have a clear penalty structure for DPs, which is fair and well known. Many events already have one, which they publish to competitors. In this S2H, the SIs were a little ambiguous. Maybe more structure and guidance could be given on the penalty system. 6. Winning in the room - WTF? No one has won in the room. The incident took place on the water in this case. Those who think that this is sea-lawyering or 'winning in the room' are normally the ones who either don't know all the rules or don't fully respect the rules. If they did, they would know that in this sport, there is no way to resolve some on-the-water conflicts, other than going to the room. They would know that the rules are designed to give competitors the chance to exonerate OR to have the decision reached by an independent panel. They would know that not enforcing the rules (including the 'Oh, forget about it!' approach) is not good for the sport. 7. WOXI's Elapsed Time - Her RACE Elapsed Time is the time she took in this 'event/race/competition'. In this race it was 01:09:15:24. That is 33 minutes behind LDVC. There is NO OTHER elapsed time. End Of. 8. Race Record - Read it carefully...the 'RACE' record. That is a record set during an edition of Sydney to Hobart Race. The race record is only held by a boat who has sailed the course correctly, and complied with the rules or taken penalties under the rules for any breaches made during the race. WOXI did not break any race record this year. Unlucky. LDVC did. 9. 'The Fastest Crossing Between Sydney and Hobart' - If someone wants to go and make a seperate unrelated trophy for 'The Fastest Crossing Between Sydney and Hobart', then go ahead and give it to WOXI! Well done her. See how long it lasts though, before people abuse that trophy's lack of moderation. The organised S2H race event is the moderator of that record for a reason. It sets bounds within we can be comfortable that a boat has acheived that feat fairly and measurably. In which case WOXI did not gain any known record. 10. The messages this sends to kids and non-sailors - That sailing is a complex sport. That even the best make mistakes. That if you break a rule you may (and should) be penalised. That even long races can be so close that a single penalty can make the difference between winning and losing. 11. WOXI attitude after the decision? - Whatever! Of course they will be disappointed! They thought they were right! Someone always goes away dissatisfied after a hearing. Moral win? Fine; let them enjoy the fact that they sailed very fast, if that is what they want to measure their success by. Let's face it, they did sail fast and well. Just from the 'race' point of view they did not beat LDVC (see #7). Nothing in that interview suggested WOXI were not accepting the decision. That's about it. Well done to LDVC. Well done to Ichi Ban and all the others who won divisions, got on the podium or achieved a personal best.
  25. 15 points
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