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  1. 20 points
    Sufficiently grainy?? I ended up with sunburn and eyestrain waiting for them to sail back in, and unfortunately they were still miles away from me when they started packing up. But they were foiling, and Mercury-less.
  2. 19 points
    So I wasn' t going to post this as I pretty much missed the shot, never really got over to Te Aihe. She came in faster than I was expecting. Also my little drone had to work hard to climb into that breeze. Because of this I had to zoom in and lost quite a bit of quality. Seeing as nothing much else has been going on publicly this windy week, I thought I would post it anyway, here is a little hype piece just to keep us frothing. Haha. It's the last two minutes of sailing from Monday. She isn't the most stable, but not as bad as it could be considering how patchy and shifty it would have been under north head. We look a fair way off that ultra stable mode we had when we just followed what the computer instructed. Also she is pointing pretty high here, looked scary fast in some of the runs on Monday. People just love those images of spray coming off the bow, nobody(including myself) was able to illustrate how fast she looked when she turned down and took off. It was impressive. I will try to get out on a boat for a practice day soon and get some footage closer to the action.
  3. 16 points
    When I bought my boat 15 years ago I'd found it while recreational boat shopping on the internet one cold February afternoon. I had no intention of buying a boat and certainly had no budget in mind. The agent invited us to inspect it on the hard in a dark shed in near zero temps and somehow my wife and I fell in love. The problem was, we were broke. So, we made the low ball offer almost hoping he wouldn't accept it. Instead of stomping off in an insulted huff, the seller made a generous counter offer and suddenly, without a survey, nor having sailed it nor even seen it in the water, we were boat owners. The next 3 months, waiting for springtime, the chance to uncover and actually get our hands on the boat and get her ready for commissioning were horrible. Every imaginable bad scenario played through my mind endlessly... leaking/ broken keel bolts, hidden cracked frames, leaking thru hulls, rotten plank ends, bad plank fastenings, the woiks. Come launch day... the boat barely leaked a drop, every system fired up flawlessly, the diesel engine (the only contingency I'd held out some money on) turned over twice and purred like a kitten, no smoke and plenty of water in the exhaust. Sure, a great outcome but only after 3 months of mental anguish. Now, 15 years later, I've sold my baby. My hands just hurt too much to do all the stuff I used to enjoy doing so much. I know all the rules about not expecting to recover your investment, and they're all true. I did, however, sell her for 30% more than I paid for her, after an enormous amount of work. After closing the deal we were having lunch with another wooden boat couple and they asked the obvious "How does it feel?" I didn't know then and I'm still not sure I've figured out how I feel yet, more than a month later. I find myself going back over all the old pics of the boat and all the beautiful places she took us and reliving those memories wistfully. I look at the boat shed and it's already filling up with shit. I sold the boat stands a week later, which was a nice gift I hadn't even thought about until after the boat sold. Today I sold my mooring, which had been in the cove at the end of our road. I think this is the one that's really throwing me for a loop. Ya see, as long as the boat was down in the cove, it was pretty much a given that any day we weren't out on the boat, we'd at least drive down to the cove to check on it/ admire it/ chat up the neighbors or just watch the river traffic cruising by. It was not unusual for total strangers to recognize us and thank us for dressing up the cove with our boat, so in some small way I guess we were local heros. Even after the boat sold, for some reason I'd still go down and check out the mooring just out of habit, I guess. So now I have no sailboat, no boat stands, not even a mooring. I guess it's official, I'm not a sailor anymore. Anyone that tries to sell the old 'The two best days of a sailors life...' is full of shit. I still don't know exactly how I feel nor what I'm going to do next sailboatwise, but whatever it is I feel, it's certainly not jubilation. The two best days of a sailors life? That was written by some guy with a Mac 26 or some other soul less piece of floating tripe.
  4. 16 points
    Yeah I remember seeing that video...middle of the Southern Ocean, blowing a fucking gale, the barely 100 pound woman puts on three layers of foul weather gear and two lifejackets so when she climbs the mast and the pitching throws her 20 feet away from the mast and then slams her back into it again, she doesn't break ribs. She goes up, fixes whatever is wrong at the masthead and reeves a new halyard. She climbs down and makes a video where she's exhausted, cold, tired and upset. FUCK She cries, pull off her foulies and shows the camera the bruises and gets on with it. Brass balls. BIG fucking brass balls. I apologise, Dame Ellen for the obscenity but I will never forget seeing that. RESPECT. AND she puts together the entire team, with the day-to-day management aspect AND drives the fundraising engine?? AND is articulate enough to wow the press. Give me a break. Ellen MacArthur is an amazing human being.
  5. 15 points
    This is Sailing Anarchy. Really no rules. But there are unwritten rules. There is a standard greeting for newbies. There are posters who deserve a certain amount of respect due to the contributions made. There are threads that will always have a place in SA lore. Sols' NCD, Moonlight walks and Chaz, Swans sash weights, Dogzilla, 1000 days, SJ24 around the world, epic coming out of the closet, and so on. Random pic thread is a SA icon. Thanks almost entirely to the efforts of Hobot. He has created a standard for posting in here that is almost impossible to match. That does not mean other should not post her. But perhaps leaving the last few posts of a page to him do that he can put the first pic on the top of the next. Keeping pic commentaries to simple appreciation and avoiding hijacks. I ought to be pissed at how much time I have spent going down the rabbit hole, chasing the stories of days gone by. But I find myself oddly appreciative and very grateful that, in this syphilis infested chasm that we all are addicted to, he has been a consistent ray of light that is much appreciated. So, Thanks Hobot. Keep up the amazing work Or I could just go F/O WL
  6. 15 points
    Thanks for the love gang all ok will post when I know more on the boat I’m upset at myself and the press and the fact that it damages the multihull fraternity’s image let alone the insurance implications ...
  7. 14 points
    A few from the tow out and the first run that I saw.
  8. 13 points
    From the second (home) run that I got to see.
  9. 13 points
    I find it sad that so many sailors could give a shit about the environment, if anyone should be aware of the changes that have already occurred it is us, in my many decades on the water I have seen some of these. If you think the coming changes will be good for you and your area you are either extremely fortunate or just kidding yourself. Of course since the average age of most posters is such we will be dead before the shit really hits the fan so not my problem.
  10. 13 points
    With the greatest possible respect: this thread has zero to do with sailing and should be moved to Political Anarchy where it belongs
  11. 12 points
    Looking pretty rock stable today boys.
  12. 12 points
  13. 12 points
    I got to see first hand AM make two runs today in the upper bay, and these videos don't do these boats any justice. Seeing them come ripping through at 30-40kts is absolutely incredible. The noise you hear as they go by is something else. Seeing two of these beasts actually race will be worth the trip to NZL. No doubt these are exciting times.
  14. 12 points
    IMG_0585.mp4
  15. 11 points
    Boat has been in a shed for 2 years. Good to be back playing in the wind. Steve
  16. 11 points
    It's buck's show, with canfield the right hand man. The former CEO and COO dropped out when they realized the money wasn't there. Calling it a charade is pretty precious, though. While they probably won't be successful this time around, those two barely-out-of-their-20s have been burning their souls to the waterline trying to make their challenge happen, and the lessons they learned in 2017-19 will be the most valuable they ever have for the next several cycles. Have some fucking respect for talented champions who actually fight the fight rather than bitching on the sidelines.
  17. 11 points
    DO NOT go up the mast on the hard - on any boat. In my experience, no yard will allow it anyway. Boats on the hard are only propped up, primarily relying on the low CG of the keel to keep them upright. Think of the Ft/Lbs of potential "unrighting arm" you will create at the top of the mast - your weight X mast length. Even on a small boat it will be well into the thousands. On my 29' it would get close to 10,000 with me up there. As long as everything remains perfectly vertical there is no "unrighting arm" of course. Just as long as...... Remember, you are betting your life that everything will remain stable. But look at the penalty for failure Dude.
  18. 11 points
    It disgusts me that some people still fail to understand that maori don't universally see the coming of the white man as a great thing.
  19. 10 points
    Nowadays the word ‘corinthian’ is used to denote a boat/crew of purely amateur status, but before sailing became so organized and professional, that same word meant ‘displaying the highest level of sportsmanship’. And I think this second (original) meaning is still prevalent amongst our ranks today. Sometimes it’s a big, high-profile act, such as when Pyewacket rescued the crew of OEX during the 2019 TransPac but more often than not it’s a small act of consideration or kindness that goes unnoticed and unsung… I race an old 113 year old antique in Santa Barbara Yacht Club’s Wet Wednesday evening series. Generally we have pleasant 10-15mph breezes so I don’t need to use an outboard to get back to the harbor after the racing, which is just as well because with a long overhang and no transom, I have nowhere to stick one! However every few months Santa Barbara experiences one those awful dying evening breezes that beach barbeque-ers love so much, but which leaves everybody on the racecourse flopping about on the Pacific swell with sails hanging limp as laundry. In 2019 that’s happened twice (so far!), and each time a fellow racer - not necessarily in my class - has motored out to get me and tow me back in; this past Wednesday a crew motored for 10 minutes in the diametrically opposite direction of the bar, in order to retrieve me from the farthest reaches of the race course and that, to me, embodies the true spirit of corinthian sailing. So here’s to all you out there, who help out your fellow sailors for no personal gain, but simply because it’s the sporting thing to do. You may be unsung, but you’re definitely not unappreciated. Nick Mockridge Broads One Design "Snipe" (https://www.facebook.com/BroadsOneDesignSnipe/)
  20. 10 points
  21. 9 points
    How dare you attack this young lady in such a viciously personal, nasty and condescending manner, when all she has done is remind you of your duty to Save Humanity Through Central Economic Planning and Malthusian-Based Population Control? Surely, your hysterical overreaction is due to the negligibly small size of your manly primary sexual characteristics, your male fragility, and your keen sense that even on its best day, your semi-upright, throbbing, stinky Yanmar 1GM powering your Macpherson 26 inboard conversion is no match for the three 454's dangling down off the back of the local speed boats. Any man who ridicules a fine, mentally fit, politically middle-of-the-road, well-acculturated and genteel young lady in this sort of way, doesn't deserve the title of "man", man, and if you have a problem with that you can drive to D.C. in your First Gen Prius, drink a couple chardonnay's with me in a bar with lots of plants, and then we will have it out in truly manly fashion, which I am so manly that I cannot mention the methods by which we will settle our differences in this forum, because to mention these methods would impoverish my manhood and cast aspersions on my manliness, which is truly estimable, so people say anyhow. While it is a trifle impolitic, I challenge you in this way only because I am infallibly classy, and I never permit myself to draft karmic checks that my buttocks cannot render into negotiable instruments.
  22. 9 points
    Wow, she does ride lower than AM
  23. 9 points
    Very interesting interview by Voiles et Voiliers (the mainstream sailing magazine in France): as usual Michel Desjoyeaux has very strong opinions and he is not afraid to put them out there! So here is my translation for our French-impaired peers... I removed pictures etc. for simplicity. Michel Desjoyeaux : « The new IMOCA are like a stool with a missing leg! » As the sole double winner of the Vendée Globe, Michel Desjoyeaux is taking a break in his racing career, except for the Solitaire du Figaro last summer. But in his yard, Mer Agitée, « the Professor » is preparing with his team the new IMOCA of Nicolas Troussel (Corum) for the Vendée Globe. As a keen observer of the sailing world, « Mich’Desj » has a very sharp view of the evolution of the class, due to the foils. Hold on to your seat, it is a bit out there; the man cherish his right to be a free thinker. Voiles et Voiliers : Michel, what happened to the Figaro 3 you sailed with in La Solitaire last June ? Michel Desjoyeaux : She is in storage in Port-la-Forêt and will be rented next year. I will not go back to La Solitaire right away, maybe later... I had a lot of fun: I thought I would suffer more than that and I thought it went better than I expected. I almost won the « jackpot » near Alderney : I missed the tide gate by 15 minutes... But today, I have a monohull IMOCA to take care of in the shop (Corum) and that takes 90% of my time. Since I stopped with Foncia and then SMA, I don't sail as much! But it does not bother me that much: I can check out what is going on. Voiles et Voiliers : There is Vendée Globe next year and we already have 6 prototypes in the water : Charal, Arkéa-Paprec, Hugo Boss, DMG-Mori, Apivia et aDvens… Michel Desjoyeaux : And all the "oldies" upgraded ! On paper, the new generation is always going to be faster than the previous generation, but now, it is MUCH faster... With very different design choices. But since there are less and less sails on these IMOCA, it is not always easy to compare performance, especially as an observer: some of them have spinakers today, that they will not have for the Vendée Globe. I don't think it is very smart to limit the number of sails to 8, including the compulsory mainsail, J-3 and stormsail which is useless anyway since it is too small... The boats cost almost 6 millions euros… and a spinaker 10 000 euros ! Voiles et Voiliers : The big difference is that there are boats with added foils, and then there are foilers! And this time, you can adjust the « rake » while sailing, that is, change the angle of attack… Michel Desjoyeaux : There is also a battle around the rules : they are not well written. Either it is too sophisticated, or not enough... You cannot respect the rule, because we are asked to make a rotation... with a translation! The foil must rotate around an axis by making a translation. Most likely, this will push to change this rule pretty soon. Voiles et Voiliers : But what to think about those new prototypes : on one side, you have Charal, Hugo Boss and DMG-Mori (VPLP design), dand on the other side, Arkéa-Paprec and Corum (Juan Kouyoumdjian design), Apivia and aDvens (Guillaume Verdier design) ? Michel Desjoyeaux : It is very telling about the new generation. We think about the shape of the foils, which impact the shape of the hull... For Corum, we started with foils almost as a circle arc, like it seems to be the case on the new Hugo Boss ! But we do not know yet if this is the shape we are going to stick with, because it has disadvantages as well. The pros are that you can lift them out of the water completely, with the foils sticking out above the deck (even if on a mechanical stand point, it is not that simple to do...); and this is very interesting for light wind sailing: dragging foils in the water in light wind, that's not great. Even if the around the world race is not sailed in light winds, since there is an average of 15 to 17 knots of wind, it is not a good idea to struggle in the transition zones. Voiles et Voiliers : Some of those foils are very different ! Michel Desjoyeaux : Some with large surface areas and others much narrower... We try to increase the aspect ratio like on the wings of a glider, but structurally, it is complicated. And the more you increase the thickness to take the loads, the more you end up with drag... Choices are therefore made along that train of thought.: « do you want to take off early, but with a lower peak speed because you have more drag, or do you accept to take off later, but go faster? Today, that is where the debate stands. Voiles et Voiliers : But the hull shapes are very different too… Michel Desjoyeaux : The choice of a narrow hull aft (Charal, Hugo Boss, DMG-Mori) would be well suited if we had the right to have stabilizers on the rudders, which is not the case today. In fact, we are missing a leg on the stool! We still have to rest on the aft part of the hull to have three points of contact... Or you have to accept that you are completely unstable: on the vidéo byAlex Thomson, we can see that when the boat takes off, it pitches up! Logically, we should allow stabilizers on the rudders. And that day, the narrow hulls will be justified. Voiles et Voiliers : But Juan Kouyoumdjian and Guillaume Verdier have not selected this choice of narrow hull… Michel Desjoyeaux : VPLP did, and we are waiting to see what Sam Manuard has done for L’Occitane of Armel Tripon… But you really will have to wait for the finish line of the Vendée Globe to know, because the training sessions at Port-la-Forêt don't tell the whole story : we will have to see what happens with heavy seas. We already notice that there are « fences » anti-ventilation surfaces on the foil) on Initiatives Cœur and aDvens ! That means that we have cavitation issues, just like on Hydroptère… And until now, all those IMOCA have sailed only on smooth waters. And we already have water ingress issues from the inspection covers, just like on the Figaro 3, because there are huge pressures at play. But it is great to have 4 architects with different visions! Voiles et Voiliers : FOr a given hull shape, do you have a given foil shape ? Michel Desjoyeaux : Even with a wide hull shape, if you want to get the boat out of the water, and not stop when it goes down back in the water, you have to push hard! It is very complicated, and maybe there will not be that much gap between the four options… We are still at the very beginning: we will have to wait for the rudder stabilizers to really sail on "three legs" rather than 2 (the keel shaft and the foil) and drag the ass of the boat in the water... Voiles et Voiliers : The hull shapes are still straighter and straighter ! Michel Desjoyeaux : With 18 meters of hull length and 35 cm of rocker, it is already pretty darn straight… Then, either there is or there is not an inflexion point aft to add rocker. What is obvious (and the structural issues on Initiatives Cœur during the last Route du Rhum are here to demonstrate it), is that there are more and more load aft of the hull. In the past, a monohull would hit the water with the bow. To day, it is hitting the water around the keel area, sometimes more aft than that ! IMOCA hit closer and closer to the center of gravity; we see the same problems we saw on the ORMA trimarans in the years 2000. A wave that hit the bow of the ama would make the boat turn, which was partially damping the blow: but with a wave hitting the beams, the boat was taking the whole brunt of the impact. So we had to beef up this part. It is the same with the bottom of the IMOCA! Voiles et Voiliers : And with the « older » boats modified with foils, there is only the ex-SMA (now Banque Populaire X), the Finistère Mer Vent ofJean Le Cam, the Groupe Apicil of Damien Seguin and the V & B-Mayenne of Maxime Sorel with straight dagger boards… Michel Desjoyeaux : And Banque Populaire X did well in the Fastnet Race because the sailing conditions were good for her. Charal was going fast because it had more experience than the others and less problems than the others : Initiatives Cœur got technical issues, Arkéa-Paprec DNFed… We cannot draw a conclusion yet. There is still a lot of room for improvement for the older upgraded boats that we cannot imagine! Personally, I would be more comfortable with a pointy narrow bow, which cuts through water more easily, than with a fat bow that hits the waves, and for which we do not know how it is going to behave in the long run... I don't feel that the shape of the hull is making a lot of difference on this type of race. There are more gains to be made on the foils than on the hull. Voiles et Voiliers : It is how you lift the hull that is important. Michel Desjoyeaux : Today, we still have to deal with half-assed solutions, because we do not have the rudder stabilizers: we have a hull dragging in the water, an immersed foil, but not completely, points of contact with water that are continuously changing... A fully archimedian boat or a fully foiling boat, it is easier to calculate and model! Voiles et Voiliers : With Mer Agitée, you are taking care of the building of the new Corum, a Juan Kouyoumdjian design, sister-ship of Arkéa-Paprec. Michel Desjoyeaux : Which should be getting out of the yard in January-February 2020. But she is a bit different from her predecessor: the deck layout and the cockpit are new, and we have beefed up the bottom of the hull, especially in the middle and aft. Even the architect who was rather doubtful at the beginning, has found out that « skimming » is now a mode of sailing. Another factor that is more and more important is aerodynamic drag. We are getting to non-trivial speeds, with apparent wind angles that require us to work on aerodynamic drag. Voiles et Voiliers : Because those are very wide hulls that heel a lot ? Michel Desjoyeaux : Not only do they heel a lot, but on top of that, you have to deal with the stability parameters of the rating (110° actual test and 180° in simulation) which force us to have roufs or euivalent, which have an impact on the weight of the bulb and the canting angle. Then you have the solution of the completely enclosed cockpit (like the new Hugo Boss) : I am not surprised by Alex Thomson choice because after my first Vendée Globe, I was already fed up to be continuously soaked ! And it is not getting any better with the new boats… Jean-Yves Terlain had already come up with a solution on his UAP. Voiles et Voiliers : And does it change a lot regarding the sails ? Michel Desjoyeaux : When you put less and less sails aboard, it does not evolve that much. You have to make more and more compromises, by default! I would be in favor of 10 sails on board, instead of 8. On a Figaro 3 of about 10 meters long, there are 7 sails...
  24. 9 points
    I have used the traditional yellow lines to indicate what would happen if they weren't there
  25. 9 points
    I prefer this photo (from Stuff.co).

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