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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. You guys are mean! I would have no trouble divng on a B.S. boat. The lack of frames make it much safer to dive!
  2. I bought a Catalina 22 thru an online auction with no trailer. When I was looking, I found that people selling boat trailers wanted a lot more for them than people selling junk boats on trailers. I ended up buying a gutted bass boat on a trailer for $150. It cost me another $15 or so to pull it off at the dump but I was still money ahead. Building the bunks up was a little bit of a pain but worth the money savings.
  3. There is a video on YouTube of a Junk being built. The built 2 brick chimneys with a steel box on top. The bottom of the box was higher than the top of the keel. They filled up the boxes with 10,000 lbs of lead ingots and lit fires underneath. The bottom side of the box had a steel pipe coming out and running down hill maybe 20* or so and into the top of the keel. They preheated the pipe with a torch and as the lead started to melt it just flowed down hill and filled the keel . This was a wooden Junk with a timber keel beam. They had run bronze bolts thru the timber and then bolted on a plate steel box. Once the lead had cooled they dropped the steel box and they had a finished lead keel bolted to the bottom. Not quite the same as yours but its always interesting to see how other people do it.
  4. It would be cool to see him finish the boat!
  5. That is one extremely cluttered foredeck, a problem that a stainless A frame bowsprit goes along way to alleviate. One can walk down the floats of may marinas, and find fine stainless A frame bowsprits, which are far lighter, cheaper, more practical , and nowhere near as butt ugly as that over priced, overweight contraption. If you need a tab, or anything added, you simply weld it on, in minutes. That chain dragging thru that tube will wear thru it quickly . Nice winches! One should be careful using manufactured anchor winches, many of which are batteries of mixed metals , bronze gypsy , with galvanized chain on it, on a stainless shaft, in an aluminium housing ,with an aluminium drum , mild steel keys etc etc. Putting cone shapes in the bottom of that chain locker makes the chain pile neatly, eliminating jams when a cone shaped pile falls over. I guess this is one of those random act of kindness that gets you thru the day!
  6. The new boat looks fantastic! The old one isn't to shabby either. I think having the experience of your current boat has to be invalueable in guiding your decisions on the new build. It looks very well thought out.
  7. Not to worried about the cold or outfitting the trip. I've rafted the Alsek river with ice bergs as well 8 Grand Canyon Trips. One Grand trip was over Christmas and New Years. Out of 25 days we had maybe 6 were it didn't snow on us. My wife is an open water swimmer as well as a rafter so she's pretty good with cold water as well. We already have drysuits and layers of poly. Biggest issue is finding somebody with enough sailing experience. We both have some and plan on sailing a bunch this winter but the R2AK vetting process determined and I quote "in rafting, climbing , and Search and Rescue your bad asses but you don't have enough sailing experience". I understand the decision but wouldn't have entered if I wasn't sure we could make it happen. So anyway I would be open to 1 or possible 2 other team mates. Not sure if 4 would be to crowded or not? It would make it easier to take rowing shifts. I plan on 1 set in the cockpit and I think I can attach another set on the front deck. On the bright side, all my new standing rigging is here and my new Harkin self tailing winches just got delivered!
  8. Boat? Can you please be just a bit more specific? I was rather vague because I didn't want to spell out the long list of things I'm doing to make the boat safer and more suitable for the race. Its a Catalina 22 with a fin keel, currently undergoing lots of modifications. Mostly things I wanted to do anyway to make it a better boat for doing more than day sailing. The only thing I'm not going to do until I'm committed to the race is the oar set up. Being and Avid whitewater rafter I already have plenty of oars to choose from. I just don't want to drill the cockpit coaming if I'm never going to row it.
  9. I've followed this race since the beginning and am contemplating 2017. I have a boat and the time with lots of adventure experience including lots of rowing but short on sailboat racing experience. I would be willing to discuss teaming up with an interested party with a good sailing resume. Interested parties can shoot me an email. Insanitypierre@gmail.com
  10. An "Open Water Wanker" cert is useless when it comes down to professional type of wanking. You need to know how to use special tools "AKA" other parts of the body! This is offically the dumbest thread ever!
  11. Red wood deck off of their previous house "Double wide"