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  1. thataway4

    Rescue Monday off Hatteras

    A trade wind crossing, even in brisk winds, is a fairly easy passage. I have friends who have circumnavigated several times and never seen winds over 40 knots. Wind against the Gulf Stream can be nasty. Failure of engine, in older folks who don't have the muscle power or stamina, perhaps not able to eat or sleep, may have represented a crisis for them. One does not know how proficient others are in dealing with even minor engine (main propulsion or generator) problems. For example we did a Canary Isles to Barbados crossing, where I had to do a valve job on the generator about half way across. We only ran the main engine to pull anchor and to set it in Barbados. We could have done without the generator, but I didn't really want to run the main just for battery charging. Unless the owners tell their story, it all remains speculations...
  2. thataway4

    Rescue Monday off Hatteras

    On another forum, a person in Annapolis confirmed that this "Bali Hai" had been owned by the same couple for several years. They had done a Tradewinds crossing from the Med to Caribbean, and Caribbean to US. He saw them fuel up and depart. There was a second Amel SM 52/53 which had been just recently sold. I believe that the age of the couple was in the 60's. We have taken a similar sized boat with 7' draft and an air draft of just under 65' down the ICW. Our antenna often went "ting, ting, ting" on the underside of bridges. The Amel is said to have an air draft somewhere in the city 64' 1" to top of the tricolor--antenna extra. Unless there were injuries, the couple should have other options, such as heaving too, running a Jordan series drogue or similar device. We have seen vessels in "distress" because they failed to "polish" fuel, have adequate filtering parallel pump powered filtration systems, Plenty of filters, more than one fuel tank, and preferably a day tank in a vessel dependent on powered systems. On the other hand, my wife and I have sailed over 100,000 miles in similar sized vessels dual handed with manual only system.
  3. thataway4

    Sad Day in Dana Point

    Just got an IM from my son, who's boat is about 100 meters from the Pilgrim. He said that she was supposed to have been hauled for repairs in Jan. but it was deferred until June. Hard to understand why there was nota at least a daily inspection of the bilge, and bilge alarms. There are security guards who drive the area at night, and you would think that someone would have noticed her taking on water. Very sad for all of the children who will probably not have the experience of going aboard, hearing the story and going for a sail!
  4. thataway4

    Transpac 2019

    Todays "navigation" is far different than it was 40 years ago. Then, the Committee gave out a "coded" broadcast of the isobars, so all had a "fair chance". I know that there were some who corresponded with their friends who were pilots, and they obtained more information. Now, anything in the public domain appears to be fair game for navigators. There are satellite AIS reports in almost real time. All manor of weather information is available , from GRIB files to sophisticated models on the internet. I don't now many of the boats have a "fast" internet connection, but it doesn't take a lot of bandwidth to get the basics. All of the boats at least have a sat phone...from there on it is just $$ as to how much information you can download. The tactics are driven by the wind speed and direction--a lot of boats have that information now. It is different than "covering" in a buoy's race.
  5. thataway4

    Transpac 2019

    You have to go to the header of the tracking map; click on the "Live 200 NM Approach"" --there is a separate page for the last 200 miles in real time. About 31 minutes difference between Argo and PPlay. It is confusing. Argo finished at 20:50 HST, PPlay at 21:21 HST Both on 17 July.
  6. thataway4

    First boat: C&C 27 Mk V vs. 29 Mk II

    The two boats are close in size- LOA -I prefer the inboard spade rudder for racing--and cruising. The 29 II will have a little more water capacity and slightly better cruising accommodation, There is about 30 more sq feet of sail area in the 29 II. The PHRF rating is fairly close--Not a lot rated, but it appears that the 29 would be slightly faster by that criteria. I would personally prefer the 29. However there is a lot more to consider: What shape is each boat in? When was the boat last re-rigged? What condition are the sails? How about deck/cockpit sole for water intrusion (Balsa core in both), Condition of engine? Is the boat set up for single handing? I see one 29 has a wheel the other tiller--for that size boat I prefer the tiller for racing--but when cruising with the family a wheel may be better, especially with small children. (Access quickly forward and trimming may be more difficult with the wheel, but it keeps the tiller out of the kid's way--and the sudden changes, which may require a lot of helm, or even tacking/jibing).
  7. thataway4

    College-level class on sailing

    You need to look at little to the Southeast. Tulane (where my grand daughter starts as a freshman in August) has a viable sailing team. (I have several LSU friends who are both sailors and avid football fans.) I was on the faculty at UCLA and Cal State Long Beach. Both schools have sailing programs. The Cal State Long Beach program, is part of the Recreation and Liesure Studies department. Here is a link to the introductory course for credit REC 121A. Training is in 14' Carpis. Probably your biggest issue is with administration, buying a couple of boats, insurance, etc. I doubt that a theory only course would be all that popular.
  8. thataway4

    Transpac 2019

    Not quite a 10% attrition rate yet...But it is disturbingly high. I have ocean raced and cruised over 200,000 ocean miles as owner/skipper; it is hard to understand, why or even how, an owner would not be sure his boat was in tip top shape for a race like the Transpac. I campaigned a 45' boat for several years, doing most major West Coast races in the 70's, and just the care feeding, transport of the crew, sails, and general boat maintenance, is a very substantial amount of cash. Just as the rigging should be tested , so should under water appendages. If the Code 0 etc are causing excessive rudder pressure, there are solutions; Beefier rudder tubes, posts and stocks, more reinforcements into the hull. (All of my boats had either metal tubes or heavy fiberglass, with replaceable teflon bearing surfaces--which were inspected and replaced regularly.) Even cruising an inspection of the rudder post and tube was at least a daily routine. I have also sailed on several racing boats with a mizzen board just in front of the rudder--helps to take pressure off the rudder (Also allows changing the point of lateral resistance) and also protects to some degree from both kelp and debris near the surface. Also inspection ports are present on many boats to inspect for weed on the leading edge of the keel and rudder. The boats are designed to go fast, there are "safety" factors designed into the rig, hull laminates, etc--maybe more should be considered ref the keels and rudder attachments...Which are definitely vulnerable. As mentioned, examination of the rudder tube should be on the list of routine checks--perhaps every watch change or more often. Both sportsman like and gentlemanly for Disney and crew to return to the coast...with the crew of OEX.
  9. thataway4

    Transpac 2019

    A wonderful series of Sharon Green photos on Scuttlebutt
  10. thataway4

    Transpac 2019

    Compare to the R2AK--lots of coverage, on board video, and live action reports--sure those boats were often within cell phone range. Plus more activity form members of SA. All boats are required to have a Sat phone, and should not miss a few $$ for the upload of a photo now and then considering the total cost of entry and sailing. It appears that any internet capability available to the public can be used during the race. I suspect that the larger boats at least will have direct satellite capability to monitor many "public" weather sites--but not private services, according to the sailing instructions. Each boat has to have an on board e-mail address. With the live AIS, the delay in the tracker does not make a lot of sense. Looking back when navigating the Transpac, if I had even the 4 hour delay info on board, I would have convinced the owner to take a different route--he was dead set on the great circle route--didn't make any difference where the Pacific High was...yep we were able to spend a few days swimming around the boat!
  11. thataway4

    Transpac 2019

    Argo going over 28.t knots and about to pass some of the Friday starters, and Comanche doing a 18.2 knots vs Rio at 10.8 knots. This is the problem with staggered starts, makes it a different race at the start--where the wind is likely to inconsistent, than at the finish, where normally the trades are steady,. It used to be the middle which really counted. I raced the Transpac 40 years ago; it is an entirely different race today. There is a lot more wind an barometric pressure information today than then,70's,. We relyed on celestial navigation'; Omega and Loran were the only electronic navigation systems. Transit (early GPS Magnavox 4102) didn't come along until late 1982. Roll call positions were often fudged. There were rumors of "illegal" transmissions of information from airline pilots.. Also note that Live Wire and Macondo are headed back...
  12. I noted your Avitar. UCSB. My uncle went to Santa Barbara State Teacher's college in the 1930's He had a band: Johnny Austin and His Gaucho's.