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  1. Fuck you chicken little. It's always the same, blame the boat owner instead of the crappy product and service in the marine industry.
  2. I'm sure the inquiry will follow a similar path to all the other keel loss tragedies but at the end of the day, no one ever seems to be liable. Here's a sobering read. https://www.gov.uk/maib-reports/keel-failure-and-capsize-of-sailing-yacht-hooligan-v-off-prawle-point-devon-england-with-loss-of-1-life
  3. Minor groundings shouldn't cause a keel failure, if it does the design and/or construction is underbuilt to begin with. Hit a granite ledge at speed and the keel and structure will be damaged, this is easily seen upon inspection, that's not the builders fault.
  4. Yep, manslaughter charges and jail time.
  5. It's fully understand that this isn't the original keel for the boat but someone designed and built the new keel, there is a trail, those people are liable. But there are new builds out there that have also had problems: Bavaria, Oyster and Fast come to mind, those designers and are builders are liable. I don't believe for one moment that a hull/keel joint can't be designed and built robust enough to safely keep a keel attached even with some abuse. The pendulum to reduce costs or win the $15 flag has swung way too far the wrong way.
  6. It's pretty simple. If the designer or builder cannot prove the boat has been grounded then they are liable, end of story, go to jail. And yes, we have. https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1CJVaSGOyq1OGQxZUUxc1Q3VXc
  7. I have a solution for the "keel" problem. Jail time for designers and builders if the fucking keel falls off. Mandatory removal and inspection after groundings or "x" years/miles by a qualified yard. Boats are boats, they break, but to lose a keel, totally unacceptable. Godspeed to the poor souls and family members who suffered this loss.
  8. Caribbean 600

    Sometimes multihulls just get blown over, even with the world's best sailors aboard. No one's fault it's the nature of the beast.
  9. More cackling from the head hen, carry on chicken little.
  10. You all sound like a bunch of women discussing a soap.
  11. My newest project

    Awesome Ed! Congratulations
  12. 24 foot? It's the nut on the end of the tiller that's responsible for time and distance, digging the hole and being on the line on time and at speed. If you're over or in the cheap seats it's on you, not another crew member. And get the guy off the bow!
  13. Coolboats to admire

    CL, congrats on your sweet new ride, she looks like a beautiful boat. I'm afraid it's going to be a long winter for you.
  14. Coolboats to admire

    Kris, congrats on your GOB article, well done!
  15. Wht havent' multihulls taken the world by storm

    Didn't go on any multi's but the HH66 looked interesting, I still like the Outbound 46.