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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

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  1. Whisper, Does he mean that 3Di is heavier than crosscut dacron? Or because because North believes for a 40' boat, the main should weigh less than some given amount, so they wouldn't recommend any Dacron product? Or that at some point the adhesives at the top of the sail cannot "hold" up the weight of the rest of the sail? (which makes no sense really) I suspect its number 2, so they can try to steer folks perceived to have more money into a higher tech (more expensive) product...
  2. Pics would help with a diagnosis... As would knowing how the damage occurred...
  3. All the events that are dying are basically dying from the same cause...when winning becomes more important then going somewhere cool with your buds and having a great time sailing against a bunch of like minded people, popularity will die off, and the peons, as espo so eloquently puts it, will stop going...got little to do with 3 days or 5. It has to be fun for the peons. It has to be worth a peon giving up a week of his vacation, and a vacation or twos worth of money, or it will die. There aren't enough big boat or OD professional programs around to keep regattas healthy. You need to cater not to the big boys, but the peons. Its a grassroots sport. Not a professional one. Cater to the pros and regattas will continue to die. Espo for president of US Sailing Glad I got to do a KWRW in 2008. We were DFL every race, but still had a great time with some great buds...
  4. Unless replacing fair amount of core, there is little need for more than a gallon...quart sizes would seem to handle most of your needs. In that case, might be worth paying more per volume to only have to buy the amount you need. No one needs a half gallon of epoxy just sitting in the garage...S3, MAS, West are all good. Buy what is available and stocked near you in small sizes so you end up using most of what you've bought. Now if you end up in a major project, then that all changes...
  5. He says normal conditions are " In Buffalo, NY. And the wind is a varied mixture of light, moderate and heavy. We see it all." So I don't disagree that the 92 and 92s will plane. Or that with wind in the mid 20s you'd see almost 15kts. But in wind that is 15 or less, 92s is not a planing machine....not a criticism, I'm a fan of the 92s
  6. As Wet says, cored construction runs the risk of getting water into the core. This is not a J/Boats unique phenomenon. Also, it really isn't rocket science to fix. Can be done for inside or out depending on location. Many of us SA'ers have replaced core in our decks. The other question I'd ask is what other boat are you comparing it against? I'll bet it has potential core issues as well if its of the same age range as early to mid J/105s...
  7. I like harken's site to show options. You might consider going Garhauer , as their stuff is typically not as expensive as Harken. Its heavier, but that's not an issue for you.... http://www.harken.com/content.aspx?id=3901
  8. MB, I admit to only racing out here in SOCAL for 3 years. I've raced against you (when you had your Capri) on my friends FT 7.5. Just from a casual perusal of results, I don't see the FT 10s winning a disproportionate share of the tiime. The ones with better crews do better, and the ones with not as good crews are less consistent. But I haven't made a big study of it either. Life is too short to get all worked up over PHRF ratings. I think a good crew on a 92s would stack up just fine against a good crew on a FT10, but that's just my opinion...I'm also a J/Boat snob, so maybe not completely objective I'll also admit to being very impressed with the FT 7.5... Crash
  9. DDW, I'm jealous and I love your boat! And I agree that if your a 5 or a 6 on your cruiser scale, the 30 hours aren't really even measurable... I'm a number 3 on the racer scale and a 1, 2, 3, and 4 on the cruiser scale all at the same time. I'm the guy who loves a good racer cruiser and loves to do each. But my racing ambitions are modest (care more about doing it with friends then winning at all costs) and I am limited in budget (ultimately who isn't?) as well as storage space. I can rationalize a delivery/cruising genny, but the main has to do double duty...as does the blade jib and spinnaker. So I find the idea of a dacron 3DI sail appealing. Assuming, of course that they perform reasonably close to the promises...as my Radian main did...but I also realize that sail doesn't answer the requirements of folks at other ends of the racing or cruising spectrum...just like I don't believe any one boat can answer the requirements of both ends of the spectrum. A racer cruiser doesn't have the storage/tankage a cruiser needs, and drags a bunch of furniture around the race course...
  10. I always get a chuckle out of these discussions, as everybody's needs and requirements are likely different. There is no "one" right answer. Like everything else in sailing, sails are a compromise. What's important to you determines where you fall in the range of compromise. If durability and economy are most important to you, cross cut dacron is the most likely answer. As your performance expectations increase, you pay with decreases in durability and economy. I can see where this product has applicability across a range of requirements...but that doesn't make it right for everybody. Yes there are sails that will outlast it. Yes there are sails that out perform in (from a shape holding and light weight perspective).
  11. I race on a friends FT7.5 in a mixed PHRF fleet of mostly 30 footers. Long upwind legs are a challenge in medium air, where the bigger older boats are running 155 genoas and have waterline on us. Its important to have a clear lane and or win the pin so you don't get rolled upwind by bigger boats. We are pretty aggressive with our starts and defending ourselves to windward, or biting the bullet early and getting to clean air. Your advantage pre-start and at marks is your maneuverability and acceleration, so you have to capitalize on those. Can be a challenge to "catch up" downwind sometimes, especially in non-planning conditions when the sym boats can go deep with good speed, but your not planning yet, but still sailing higher for VMG. But its fun and an interesting tactical challenge. Plus if there is a tight reaching leg, where you can run an asym, and they can't carry a chute, then you make out like a raped ape...
  12. Yes, I'd say that a 92s would not plan in normal conditions...think the polars show a max of 10.3 kts at 135 TWA degrees with 20kts, where as an FT 10 is going 12 kts. So yes, the FT10 planes earlier and in more "normal" conditions...but the fact that it does plane sooner/more often means its PHRF rating takes a hit for that capabililty. If its blowing less then say 12 or so, you'll have a harder time sailing to the rating then in the 92s. All depends on what floats your boat. Fast is fun. Planing is fun. Just realize that in mid range breeze, you'll be somewhat hurt by your rating. J/92s will be less hurt by that...but less "fun" maybe too. Also what are the other likely boats in your area/PHRF fleet? Getting a boat that is "well matched" to the fleet makes for more competitive racing. Racing by yourself and trying to save time is less fun (to me anyway)...
  13. Fair counterpoint.
  14. I dunno Evans, thats like saying computer porn is no worse than wasting your time and money trying to find a real person to make love to.... More seriously, while they are indeed challenging, engaging, skilled based, and team based, the fact that there are no consequences...no real penalties for making a bad judgement or foolish move as you can just reset to a save point and start again...makes them ultimately less worthwhile. Actually skiing down a mountain IS more worthwhile than doing it virtually...actually flying in an aircraft engaged in a dogfight or a real race car on a track, where there is real danger is more involved than virtual can be...even the best military ACM simulators can match the real thing... One of the reasons Naval Academies/Navies have sail training vessels is there is no "reset" button or training time out when you need to make a sail change in the middle of a dark and stormy night.... Note I am not saying esports or simulators etc are bad and should be avoided, only that it is not the same as "wasting your time and money getting blown around by the air" or on your bike, or whatever...
  15. Yeah? I wonder how the M24 would have held up in the conditions of '13...but it'd have been a hell of a ride!