Groucho Marx

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  1. Groucho Marx

    Route du Rhum 2018

    Earlier - and a repeat. There are still a multitude of foils on that boat to maintain direction and control?
  2. Not a Newick but influenced by his designs; this is one of Nigel Irens from 30 odd years ago, Gordano Goose - and is a performance work of art?
  3. Real ugly? This is a Tricia and one of the earliest foil versions, early 1980s.
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    Three cheers?

    Looks more like an altered Kelsall, definitely not Newick?
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    Extended the transom on Frog, main hull is now 7 metres and now the transom doesn't drag in light airs, also increased buoyancy of the mini floats, and made them near flat underneath with only slight rocker - which has cleaned up the float wake also in lighter conditions. So now Frog is getting closer to being a complete boat have finally turned attention to Groucho and framed up the new floats. Watched the Coastal Classic start this morning; beautiful Auckland spring weather and a very large fleet; the ORMA 60 was very impressive and she will win easily?
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    Belonga me; here's another from Light Brigade of Laurie Davidson's Pendragon, Kiwi radical daggerboard design.
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    Here's a drawing, copied from an old photograph, of Improbable from Light Brigade. I remember watching the red boat being launched at Westhaven along with some local experts who were sniggering at the huge transom rudder. Kiwis can be arrogant. But we did the same thing with sloping rudders on our early catamarans, guaranteed heavy helm.
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    A section from Light Brigade: Although starting with the New Zealand light displacement school, Holland changed direction when he met in the States the moderate to heavy displacement designers Doug Peterson and Gary Mull. He worked closely with Mull designing the 12.8 metre Improbable – and got Atkinson the job of building the kauri yacht in New Zealand. Improbable was a distinct break with the usual US type designs – dinghy-hull shaped and meant to excel in downwind sailing as well as being a good windward performer. But compared to Antipodean designs Improbable was heavy and when the deep bodied, red yacht with its unusually large, dinghy-type transom rudder was exported from here, unimpressed Aucklanders, now well versed with light displacement theory and hull design, forsaw that Improbable, although somewhat dinghy hull shaped with a broad transom, was too heavy to show any real pace in downwind conditions. This proved to be true and although US observers considered the boat as a surfing big dinghy compared to their usual yacht type, and although Holland wrote entertaining articles relating to racing and deliveries aboard the Mull design, the boat was not fast and not the breakthrough success the group had thought during early brainstorm sessions. However it was important because Improbable was a compromise, a go between that of Antipodean lightweights and the usual heavy displacement yachts from the USA, an educational boat that introduced US sailors to what was possible in lighter designs – although this would not be properly brought home to them until a couple of years later when Farr’s ne plus ultra centreboarder Mr Jumpa was sold to the States. That boat was extreme and almost incomprehensible to US eyes. After having a great time aboard Improbable, Holland worked and crewed with Peterson on his winning Ganbare One Tonner (in itself a cautious breakthrough design) and then continued similarly and successfully along moderate to heavy displacement, fine ended, masthead rigged IOR designs like Golden Apple. Holland did not belong to the New Zealand school and soon his boats were overshadowed by the more radical Farr and Whiting designs.
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    Strange fruit. Rebuilt foils for Groucho.
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    Smyth Wingsail via Jim Brown

    I'm not so sure Carcrash, if I'm interpreting the drawing correctly there is a masthead backstay but no sidestays, only diamonds in the profile drawing. The plan shows lines/stays? from float/beam connection to main hull transom. Okay and granted, he may have been thinking of his masthead modern setup? 60x60 foot Sebago was way ahead of its time?
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    Smyth Wingsail via Jim Brown

    Similar period.
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    Look what showed up in SUBIC?!

    My my, how very original? Defecation for brains, much?
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    Kat Ketch rigs

    The tri is my other boat, Groucho Marx. In the same gale that inverted and wrecked the Skimmer's rig and rudder, Groucho lifted/tore its mooring and ended on rocks and halfway up a tree with expected damage. Have repaired most of it and have built two new floats. Was going to chainsaw it up, stripped it - but then changed mind. We get tides ranging from 2.6 to 3.7 metres on the Waitemata - so plenty of depth at and near full tide. If in shallows, ease mainsheet .... learned the hard way.
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    Kat Ketch rigs

    Those Core Sounds are very impressive. On the point of windward sailing, the Cox's Bay Skimmer points very high, same as any other conventional sloop type rig. The rotating wing masts make all the difference. Also the boat has inverted T foils on rudder and daggerboard - so it lifts out on reaches. Here's a cleaning bottom/foils shot. And one of sailing mate Jacques de Reuck. The boat is very light; has been blown over twice on its mooring, even tied on to its heavy cradle in on shore gales. Have reduced the mast chords to compensate. Boat is dangerous to sail single handed, have also tipped it over once in increasing winds and waves. But much more stable and secure with two crew.
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    Kat Ketch rigs

    Cox's Bay Skimmer, 5.5 x 2.25 metres.