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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Hang on - there was no real public internet until the early 90's (I used the Lynx browser at Uni when the internet was text only round 92/93) and I thought there were already dozens of F27s on the water by then? Just how old is this forum? Not all that old, but there has always been that strong traditional faction. They are the ones who also said that Internet and emails would never work as very few were using them. Everybody was using letters and faxes, and the 'Letter to the Editor' pages were the only place for lively discussions, so no definitely no future for emails. Ian Farrier Farrier Marine Designs that work Holy #!.... fascinating. World-wide discussions/arguments in physical print - it was the only conclusion of course, but it's such an alien concept now I could scarcely believe it. I'm pretty sure I don't belong to any other forums that started on paper.
  2. Hang on - there was no real public internet until the early 90's (I used the Lynx browser at Uni when the internet was text only round 92/93) and I thought there were already dozens of F27s on the water by then? Just how old is this forum?
  3. Dunno - as I say I haven't made up my mind yet, I haven't seen any posts with evidence of faster boomed sailing so far though. Also I want to see the reefing system in action first, and I'd like to see more about running dead downwind. If I read right, it sounds like without a kite, running ddw is not something you do when boomless - and that perhaps you have better vmg at an angle anyway ...
  4. Mate, if you seriously think that you will get more control of your sail shape without a boom, than with a boom, then I wish you all the luck in the world. That's the thing - I don't think that, I don't have an opinion yet - boomless was strange idea to me, - but I am very interested in the story and evidence Ian is presenting, and I haven't seen any evidence to the contrary yet, only entrenched opinion. It's a decision I don't have to make for a year or two yet because I'm hull #62 - but at this stage I'll be taking the boomless option - unless the boomies start providing evidence based counters ...
  5. No - not kidding - it's perfectly simple, a counter example would be a boat with a boom consistently beating other boats in the same class that were boomless, or if you prefer, a boomless boat that consistently lost in it's class A question for Autograph - who has sailed a boomed cat and now sails boomless and says current cat is slower - are they the same class with comparable sail area? are you racing others in same class with boomless? say it with me one time! Show me the data!!
  6. It's easy enough to pick holes in the extrapolations Ian makes from the few examples he's provided - but he has provided examples - and I suspect he's probably quite good at making extrapolations. On the other hand - I've not seen any evidence at all from the boomies to back their assertion that boomless is only for cruising/families - there are theories about backhauls and clews that I can't follow (because it's been too long since I was in a boat) - but there's no evidence, no counter examples. Show me the data!! (to paraphrase a cruise movie)
  7. The thing is - giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you actually mean "hardly anyone uses boomless" as opposed to the much more categorical and demonstrably false; "they are not used" - it seems to me that in past decades the same thing would have been said of multi-hulls, and later, of foils. I'm a big fan of empirical evidence - and however significant or insignificant, Ian and Multihauler are the only ones in this discussion providing any so far.
  8. I don't have experience racing anything bigger than a Fin - and I haven't been on the water for a very long time, so boomless is new to me and hard to grasp. However it does seem obvious that some of the detractors here are not speaking from experience with boom and without, rather the very idea of no boom simply seems blasphemous to them. Why there should be such religious rancour about what other people are doing with their own boats I don't know. Personally if I didn't have a stake in the F22 (I do) I would be looking at this as an opportunity to observe over the coming months and years - and either confirm my scepticism or learn something new and useful - instead of building rhetorical positions that will be hard to climb down from. Kevin.
  9. if the video doesn't work try a different browser. Google Chrome didn't work (sound, no vid) for me - but Internet Exploder 10 did.
  10. lolololol - "wet dream" - fantastic, I really hope you follow through on that plywoodboy. Mine is going to have the much drier handle; "Orthogonal".
  11. "All our F-22 production for the next two or three years has already been sold," Hi Ian - that was back in Feb and reading it now in August is depressing as I'm hoping to come back to NZ from UK in 14/15 - and my plan was to finally buy the trailer-tri I've been wanting for almost a decade then. But then on your F22 factory progress page you also say this : "We were producing just on one boat a month in 1987, and three years later it had reached two boats a week, but we are aiming for much more with the F-22!" I saw another post saying hull number 40 was allocated back in Feb - how many have been pre-sold now? Is it unrealistic to think I could be sailing one in 2015 if I haven't already ordered it? cheers, Kevin.