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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Now this is what I call roof-racking!
  2. The button fee (don't ask me how much, cos I don't know) is paid to the Class Association, of which a proportion (don't ask me how much, cos I don't know) is (or should be) paid to each District, dependent on the sail sales to that district.
  3. What a nasty little thread!
  4. In Australia Ben Ainslie jumped into the photographer's boat to remonstrate with the driver. He did not punch a photographer. Get your 'facts' straight. On another topic, the scenario for the Laser Men's medal race is fascinating. CRO has to finish fewer than six places behind AUS to keep the Gold, with no other threats. AUS has to finish fewer than six places behind NZL to keep silver, and is guaranteed Bronze; he cannot be beaten by BRA, FRA or GBR (penalties aside). FRA, BRA and GBR could get Bronze. If CRO match-races AUS, NZL could get the silver. Sam Meech cannot match-race all three boats behind him who could snatch the Bronze, so he has to go for the race win. He still has to finish fewer than five places behind FRA, and fewer than six places behind BRA and GBR, to keep the Bronze. Shame about yesterday's Radial race. It might have been a test of boat-handling rather than a tactical race, but it would have been no more of a lottery than the Nothe (Weymouth) course was four years ago. The women were perfectly capable of sailing in those conditions, and I felt it was a disservice to them for the RC to have canned the race.
  5. I stand corrected on the Appendix B (Windsurfing Competition) Rules re 360s and 720s. Humble pie duly eaten and digested. However, in the RS-X (Men), Nick Dempsey's request for redress (Protest No. 12) the IJ's decision refers to GBR as female: "GBR is to be scored points equal to the average, to the nearest tenth of a point (00.5 to be rounded upward), of her points in all races sailed before the last scheduled day of the opening series except race 6."
  6. They may have put the word 'yacht' out to grass, but they still refer to the craft as 'she' as if it were a yacht. Perhaps the IJ should bring itself up to date with the current RRS by referring to 'one-turn' and 'two-turns' penalties, not 360 and 720 penalties.
  7. Further to my last post, Lily's request was denied. The IJ found that there had been no fault in its original decision. I'd be interested to learn the grounds for her appeal. In a separate case, Nick Dempsey's yacht has been granted redress (average points in the opening series) after Lithuania fouled her and caused her to capsize. It had been lying 8th and finished 14th. LTU had taken a 360-degree penalty for the incident (shouldn't that be a single-turn penalty under the current rules?) and was not further penalised.
  8. I'll be impressed if she is allowed to reopen her Race 2 case on appeal. The Notice of Race, Item 11, states: 'An international Jury has been appointed in accordance with rule 91(. Its decisions will be final as provided in RRS 70.5.' Rule 70.5 states: 'There shall be no appeal from the decisions of an International Jury constituted in compliance with Appendix N.' She will be allowed to drop the DSQ once the discard comes in.
  9. Apparently Paige hailed 'Protest' immediately after she had to bear away, and again, twice; the third hail was as Lily was rounding the mark. She performed a two-turns penalty, but she took it after she had rounded the mark, and thereby gained a substantial advantage over taking it immediately she was hailed. To comply with the RRS she had to head for clear water and do her penalty turns immediately she was hailed, by (for example) carrying on on port well to windward of the windward mark and taking the 2-turns penalty out of everyone's way. (Infringing just short of the windward mark is one of the worst places to pick up a penalty; perhaps not the worst, just one of the worst.) Lily is substantially hearing-impaired, so may not have heard the first or second call, but in the harsh world of the protest room a reason is not an excuse. The total reliance on a hail is one of the penalties of dispensing with the requirement for a Protest flag for short boats. One can still carry one, but I don't know any dinghy sailor who still does. To look at the Protest document, see: http://www.sailing.org/olympics/rio2016/results/notices/protests.php