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  1. Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    Nice publication.
  2. Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    The lawsuit has likely driven sales of the new boats, even if not converts as critical mass is easier to get if there is no coordinated competitor. Standard by the book business strategies are available. Being involved in a lawsuit with the designer is not one of them.
  3. Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    Respect and money go together. I am not sure he likes the sail prices, as they are very different than the early marketing of the boat. It really did bring sailing to a lot of people.
  4. Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    What has happened to the lasers that used to sail? Have they become yard art lasers?
  5. Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    Not sure that statement is true.
  6. Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    I think Gouv is kidding. You sail what you have.
  7. Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    Not really no, because when you get to the top of the game you have to use supplied boats. That's the ultimate guarantee because if you train with some weirdo boat that is at all the extremes you're stuffed when it counts most. I only trust round robin.
  8. Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    has failed to achieve the desired outcome?If you look at all the words reinforcing the myth that are included in the quote you provided, it starts to get kind of obvious that is was never true in the first place (once a level of sailing proficiency is achieved): "Preserve... principle... assured... mandatory adherence to the [ ] by all builders as defined in the fundamental rule." It feels like we should all be around a campfire talking about a snipe hunt. It just feels that way. The more I look at it the more I see that the Laser is indeed a truly brilliant design.
  9. Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    The sameness of the boats is an illusion and always has been, once a degree of sailing proficiency is achieved. The trim point of the sail is determined by the rake of the mast and the age of the sail, because there is a two block hard stop in most conditions. Add the cheapness of the cloth, the speed with which it ages, and difficulty in actually getting consistent rake with a ~10 to 1 exaggeration at the tip of the mast. Laser sailing [racing] is a rich man's sport above a certain level. If one wants the reality to match the marketing one believed at the demo: 1) get rid of the hard stop, 2) upgrade and control the cloth used in the sail to say 4.5 ounce, and 3) make an excellent 'bought and paid for' sail design. "Once you have bought the boat you can do anything you want with it," - including putting a completely different sail on it. Sell the sail for $199. Forget the name, improve the game.
  10. Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    There is a reason the radial exists for racing and I think it has to do with the block to block sheeting style of all the laser rigs making it hard to throw away sail when you need to.
  11. Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    It does not depower well if you sail light, among others.
  12. rs aero

    Nice review. I always discover the sheet is in my hand.
  13. d-zero v aero

    What are the waterlines
  14. Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    Aussie laws are shaky
  15. Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    I don't see how any MBA can sell stockholders on obsoleting the largest contribution dollar item in the product portfolio, especially if it is a once a year consumable. With Olympic status there is no viable substitute. I think they are happy with how things are.