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  1. plywoodboy

    Corsair Pulse 600

    Don't place too much cred on that OMR rating, I was just doodling one night and put rough data in from a scaled diagram. With crew weight of 1 85 kg bloke the Weta goes to .681 and with 2 blokes adding to 150 kg the Pulse goes to .775. A bit more realistic but still not valid.
  2. plywoodboy

    Corsair Pulse 600

    Scroll to the bottom of the excel rating sheet, Sshhhh..... http://www.mycq.org.au/omr/omr-ratings
  3. plywoodboy

    Corsair Pulse 600

    Sorry to follow off thread, but is there any SCHRS data for Weta?
  4. All the catwhackers are waiting to nominate at the same time using sniping software. Ssshhhh....
  5. plywoodboy

    New Corsair 880

    Any updates?
  6. plywoodboy

    Potential issue with TrailerTri 720 build

    http://www.f-boat.com/pages/background/TT720.html
  7. plywoodboy

    Potential issue with TrailerTri 720 build

    Might be ok, but needs close look at ABOVE waterline recesses especially beam recesses where rot forms. Even an overtightened bolt will have rot near it. Survey with a little hammer or wrong end of screwdriver. Tap every recess, need to hear a high pitched noise. When you hear low pitch, turn the screwdriver around and start digging out the compost. Sorry, but unless boat was inside a shed there will be some rot and the gathered mulch is not a hopeful indicator. If you go ahead, rip off the above back end church pew looking timber and replace with stainless or ally structure. Our club has original plans available on CD. Good luck, I have been there! Peter H
  8. plywoodboy

    Potential issue with TrailerTri 720 build

    And put a few pics here or on the TT yahoo forum. Someone will know history or will recognise an issue. There are a couple of boats here in OZ that are regularly advertised as Farrier 720's and they are definitely not, although from a distance they look like one. I always try to get the advertisers to retract false claims, and get a myriad of interesting answers. Pm me directly if concerned. Peter H
  9. plywoodboy

    TrailerTri 720 and R2AK

    Ostac Tramp 3 up would be a race winner in this situation, floats nice and low for viking oars, and a bit of protection down below for 1 or 2 at a inch to sleep. Much lighter than the 720 and Haines Tramp/ Eagle. Call me and I will row for you! Peter H
  10. plywoodboy

    2019 Aussie Nationals

    Posting here a relevant fb response to some questions raised from up north so I can clear my desk. Probably a better place for y'all to discuss than fb ? So glad I didn’t visit this stuff for a few weeks, it would really have helped my decision to pull out of the OMR job earlier, with any of you welcome to take over for a while. I will therefore respond to as much as I can generally with no names. Suffice to say the online and personal attacks particularly in the last few weeks often based on little or no knowledge did not help the situation. Yes, I have thrown all my toys out of the cot. So, addressing many of the rating related comments for my last time: OMR, which is no longer just for offshore boats, is simply a set of mathematical formulae used to produce as fair as possible a rating for comparing different boats. Sometimes it seems to do a good job, but it is still just a rating based on what the committee believes makes a boat fast. Longer lighter boats with big sail area get high ratings based on power functions calculated on length, weight, and sail area. A national champion on OMR is not necessarily the best IMHO but is among the best. The third-place guys might have sailed better! Sorry, but it is just a calculation supporting a guess which is based on measurements but GUIDED BY PERFORMANCE. Sorry, but there is no formula yet that lets you know how much faster a boat 11 m long is compared to 10 m long, let alone deal with canting rig, foils, or cat versus tri. So, we use our reactive processes to look at how fairly the rule is comparing those 2 boats and try to take into account the crew performance whenever we have a review of the rule, usually every couple of years. In the last review you may remember the little boats were getting punished, and the big heavy boats were getting rewarded, so those aspects were carefully addressed with changes to the mathematical equations. I think the video of those changes is still on the MYCQ site. Occasionally a boat you did not want to help will get a free ride as soon as you make a change and IMHO the Diam 24 gained a lot from that last change but only above 8 knots. Under 8 knots they are a pig (which I tried to ride at Airlie last year), so nobody seems to be too unhappy about that bogeyman lately. Noe of them sailing much takes them off the discussion table too. All handicapping discussions in the pub focus on the bogeyman (BM) who got it too easy, and this year it was the foiler because almost racially it stood out like a sore thumb. Funny thing is everyone last year were calling the X40 the BM but with 4 of them out there they become the new norm and who do we pick on now? Mmm… One comment was about lack of time given to collect data on the foiling penalty for this brand new boat Are we expected to tell these guys (who have thrown a lot into multihull racing for decades) to go away until we are confident of a rating? It only hit the water weeks before the events, be real! It should not officially be competing for the series... , love to see how excluding MM would pan out legally FFS. So after examining the info available, for the Airlie Nationals Geoff Cruse wisely decided to hit Mad Max (MM) with an extra 7.5% foiling factor. Being a nationals, it seemed better to err on the side of toughness. History shows that she underperformed with plenty of issues and the guys themselves admit they were having trouble sailing the new beast. Even with no factor they would have been beaten. The other side of this is the almost daily phone calls I was getting from the MM skipper pleading for a rating relief. So with Hammo just being more of a fun series Geoff told me to remove the factor altogether. OMG that was the end of the world as we know it in some minds. With better breezes and long legs at Hammo, MM indeed improved and even won a heat where only 4 boats finished, by 14 seconds, and another where 6 of the small fleet of 7 finished, by 34 seconds. Big frigging deal. Her final place was 2nd overall and I would argue that the dropout rate of the non-racing X40’s contributed more to her winning than MM’s foils. Yes, the TF10 had great media hype like any new kid, I also was impressed with all the marketing flight videos of this supposed “gentlemen’s foiler”, but in all the copious amounts of chopper and boat filmed video and pictures I still have not seen any evidence of fast level flight. I was on the same course at Airlie and a different course at Hammo but we often crossed them and she looked just like another picklefork, but blue. Either this one is different to the rest of the TF10’s or the crew need replacing! We still need to wait for more performance data because that is all we have until NASA lends us a few experts to definitively tell us what performance improvement the foil 3d shapes should yield. Maybe the AC75 crew can help us. Heck, we don’t even know what part of the foils to measure. The IRC take a few measurements of foils and their document says “The IRC Rating Authority reserves the right to require additional detail to be supplied and also to modify the above definitions on a case by case basis”. Any light bulbs coming on out there? One day we might have a separately scored foiling division, as well as the usual separated divisions, and that should cool things down a little, but until then with fleets of widely varying boats we just have to be patient. In this case the new kid on the block was just that, and as sportsmen we should all work better to build our fleet, not polarise it. Peter H
  11. plywoodboy

    F-22 Update

    Sorry but I have no idea or control of this situation.
  12. plywoodboy

    F-22 Update

    The F-22 Legacy is USA bound, and the new F-33 Explorer is hot on her heels! The Farrier F-22 to be built in the USA and you can be the winner! While F-22 #28 Orla is having a whale of a time around Malta we've been working hard finishing #33 and working on 34, 35 and 36! (which is heading to Australia), on some new and larger models, and made a big decision with an exciting outcome. We've been aware for some time that building the Farrier F-22 Legacy in New Zealand has put us at a price disadvantage, however, we have balked at the idea of building the very technical, hand-crafted and exacting F-22 in a country where cheaper labor can lead to inferior results. As much as we wanted to continue with the late Ian Farrier's dream of building his legacy boat in New Zealand, the time has come to relocate this production, and we have decided to do this in Edenton, North Carolina at the impressive facility of our parent company, Daedalus Composites. What this means for you is that we have made a major shift in the pricing of the Farrier F-22 Legacy so you really can be the winner: The Farrier F-22 Legacy new base price of $69,000 usd! With our first USA produced models to be available in 2020 we are ready to secure your build slot with the standard $4000usd deposit. Speak to us now to secure your build slot and let us organize your option selections for you. Email your details by clicking HERE Go further with the new Farrier F-33 Explorer! The exciting evolution of the legendary and iconic Farrier F-33 Explorer represents the limits of what can be achieved in a maxi-trailerable trimaran. It features the third generation Farrier Folding System to create a cruiser-size platform, maximized for performance and practicality, easily folded and stored ashore or on the water. Flexibility is still the big advantage for this design, with a folded beam still possible to trailer. The powerful floats give the perfect buoyancy for outstanding sail carrying power, stability, and speed and the ergonomic and carefully planned cockpit provide you a safe haven from which to navigate and control every system. Whether your plans include island hopping in the Bahamas with family and friends, or leaving the competition in your wake, the new Farrier F-33 Explorer will easily be the most comfortable and stylish way to create happy memories and stunning victories. INTERIOR The new F-33 Explorer provides the maximum accommodation in a trimaran of this size with a stylish and spacious feel, and a practical finish. It features over-sized single berth aft-cabins ideal for two children, step-in access and stowage in each of them. Forward of the companionway, there’s a spacious convertible saloon, functional galley, separate vanity and head, finished with a comfortable separate double cabin forward. The ability to close off areas if required, while offering massive fresh air ventilation, together create the most useful and functional interior of its class. Whether it be your family’s cruising comfort from island to island, or space enough to for all your racing crew, the new F-33 Explorer will host all your needs perfectly. Copyright © Farrier International, All rights reserved. unsubscribe from this list.
  13. plywoodboy

    Dragonfly Project Boat

    https://www.pickles.com.au/damaged-salvage/item/-/details/07-90--Catamaran/902287454 All the bits seem to be there including the rig and trailer, I think this is the one that flipped and detached in Moreton Bay a while back. Could be a cheap way to get on the water.
  14. plywoodboy

    2019 Aussie Nationals

    A lot of fun so far, and plenty of repairs today on the lay day, with done good footage appearing online. The Grammar Boy Nacras are entertaining us heaps, enjoy this one.
  15. Wess, considering Ian is not here to defend himself, your statement is a pretty low act, when it is clear you are having a go at him. You sailed his boats for a long time and were pretty happy at the time, so this sort of rubbish is quite a surprise to me. Because he was one of my best mates, and because I represent his brand where I can, let me give a response which is just my opinion, based on the facts. Ian never tried to sell more boats by doing what you have so poorly referred to above. He was an engineer and knew the facts about the boat in question (herafter referred to as boq). Because the boq was coming from his recognised old business partner, owners of these boats came to him for help when the growing list of obvious issues was not being answered by the builder. Ian then shared that data when it was likely to help the owners being left high and dry. Sailabout is one of many out there aware of the issues with the boq which is quite plainly one of the fugliest underperforming vessels in the stable. Because potential buyers were confusing the C36 with the F36, Ian Farrier published the statement below on his website, still there for all to see. It is only fitting that he concludes my response: It should also be noted that Corsair's C36 should not be confused with the Farrier F-36 or F-39, which are completely different trimarans, and true ocean going cruisers. The Corsair 36 is based on the initial F-35 hull lines, but my involvement ended very early in the design process due to various differences, along with concerns about supervision and quality controls. Corsair renamed this design the Corsair 36, and after various problems they have now renamed it again as the C37. Farrier Marine has had no involvement in either structure or implementation of the C36/C37, and actual designer remains unknown. I was asked to inspect a C36 in 2004, which had suffered a number of structural failures, and found the beams and folding system structure were not to Farrier standards, and I would not take such a boat offshore. Corsair was advised at that time of my concerns and it was recommended that they warn all owners of what to check and monitor, but it appears this may not have been done. A C36 suffered structural problems in late 2008 and had to be abandoned at sea, and another with serious beam bulkhead structural problems was also reported to me in 2012 (an independent report available on request). A C37 has now also been abandoned at sea in 2014, due it was claimed to float damage from a collision, but no photographs of the damage have ever been made available. There are however no Farrier specifications for the C36 or C37, which was done solely by Corsair, and on its record so far this is a trimaran to avoid. Corsair will also not state if it has now implemented a defect notification system for existing boats, so if going on an extended voyage in any Corsair built boat then it would be wise to contact them first in order to find out if there is anything to be concerned about. Ian Farrier