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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. So He never said it.
  2. In other words he never said it.
  3. Lost me with this line: As for Mueller, again, former Director of the FBI, the American Gestapo,
  4. Here is the list of prior recipients of the tire grant. While the vast majority are public. There is a scattering of non profits that are private. Including a few Christian day cares. https://dnr.mo.gov/env/swmp/tires/documents/PriorRecipientsofScrapTireMaterialGrants2014.pdf as to an earlier question yes the public does use this playground from the court papers: The Learning Center has a playground for the children who attend. Pet. App. 102a. At any given play period, about thirty to forty children use the playground. Pet. App. 132a. Children from the surrounding community also use the playground after school hours and on weekends. Pet. App. 133a. https://adflegal.blob.core.windows.net/web-content-dev/docs/default-source/documents/case-documents/trinity-lutheran-church-of-columbia-v.-pauley/trinity-lutheran-church-of-columbia-v-pauley---petitioners-39-brief-on-the-merits.pdf?sfvrsn=4
  5. I got your point, but I'm on record saying this ruling surprised me so I'll let Bent find someone that cares to argue with him.
  6. Coming from the king of nitpicking people's posts I find your post hilarious. You never assume for the sake of argument when endlessly taking apart posts by others word by word.
  7. Do you live in MO and have you bought tires there?
  8. I'm not excusing the Fitzgerald, but that container captain's statement sounds like CYA. Why would you not order an immediate reduction in speed. Both prior as he claims they had the destroyer in sight for 10 minutes. and certainly after the collision - Standard procedure after potential bow damage If you flashed lights at the destroye why not sound the danger signal Ever hear a freighter horn at night? It would wake up every lookout within miles. Why did your notification to authorities take place an hour after the collusion.
  9. Yep and I'll be honest this ruling surprised me for many of the arguments being made.
  10. Justice Kagen had a great question for the state. Do you provide fire and police to the church? Yes that's a public safety need. Well so is a safe playground. 7-2 so hardly a partisan split.
  11. It's not federal money. It's state money raised by a tax on tire sales to offset disposing of tires. The shredded tires are then used to make playgrounds safe. Their application ranked 5 out of 44.
  12. In the post you asked about -where else
  13. Added to my post
  14. Chief Justice Roberts added a footnote that limited the sweep of his opinion. “This case involves express discrimination based on religious identity with respect to playground resurfacing,” he wrote. “We do not address religious uses of funding or other forms of discrimination.” https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/26/us/politics/supreme-court-playgrounds-church-and-state-missouri.html
  15. If they qualify for the Grant so be it. This was grant money specifically targeted to make play grounds safe. The only reason it was denied was because it was for a church playground.