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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  


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  1. Read this https://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-dow-apos-historic-1-230700551.html;_ylc=X1MDMTE5Nzc4NDE4NQRfZXgDMQRfeXJpZANjYTV2cWwxZDdocGc0BGcDZFhWcFpEeHVjejVrWVdOaFpXUTNOaTAxWVdFekxUTXlORFF0T0ROaFl5MDNOREE0TW1abE9UQTBaRFoxZFdsa1BHNXpQbDVFU2trPQ0KBGxhbmcDZW4tVVMEb3JpZ19sYW5nA2VuBG9yaWdfcmVnaW9uA1VTBHBvcwMwBHJlZ2lvbgNVUwRzeW1ib2wDXkRKSQ--?.tsrc=applewf sounds - like a correction based on booming economic growth Early indications from the Atlanta Federal Reserve are that the U.S. economy could grow by more than 5% in the first quarter, which could ignite inflation and require the Fed to get more aggressive with its monetary tightening
  2. Evidence of collusion?

    Everyone is playing word games. I wish Mueller would wrap this up and let the chips fall where they may. I’m to the point with Trump and his tweets that even I wish he would fucking resign.
  3. Evidence of collusion?

    Wiretapping is not surveillance? Since when?
  4. Evidence of collusion?

    So was this a renewal of a FISA from 2013 or a new one once he joined the Trump team? Just because he was on the Radar doesn’t automatically mean he was under a FISA warrant from 2013.
  5. The Changing Memo Story

    A Democrat sees his opponent a republican Standing outside a bank. He Hires someone who hates his opponent to call the FBI claiming he saw a gun and a ransome note. The FBI gets a warrant based on the call. Raids the house finds no gun, no ransom note, but charges the guy with obstructing justice because his door was locked. We endlessly debate on why the Democrat Decided standing outside the bank indicated a robbery was about to take place. The republican walks all over town claiming he never intended to rob the bank. Democrats remind the town that he obstructed justice by having his door locked. The problem was the fake claims about a gun and ransom note, fuck the truth
  6. 2.5%. Analysts have been predicting this for months. If you try and jump in and out you usually lose.
  7. The Changing Memo Story

    Sorry that is not what that said. It clearly states no Steele dossier no FISA WARRANT
  8. The Changing Memo Story

    Let’s clear a few things up STEELE was hired after the republicans had stopped the relationship with fussion. The DNC and Hillary hired Fussion to run opposition research on Trump. Fussion hired Steele to undertake that research. Later on the FBI paid Steele to dig up more dirt. So the highest LE in the country hired a foreign national working for one candidate to get info from the Russians to try and take down a presidential candidate. Nothing to see here move along.
  9. The Changing Memo Story

    Then you agree that no Steele dossier no FISA warrant on the Trump campaign. Making progress
  10. Evidence of collusion?

    Did they use that to obtain the FISA Warrant? Because to date the charges of Lying and obstruction were based on wire taps of general Flynn and Popadopolous.
  11. The Changing Memo Story

    Explain this actual testimony Furthermore, Deputy Director McCabe testifed before the Committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier information.
  12. The Changing Memo Story

    We don’t know. I think I understand the reason why this was released. I believe it just gave everyone charged by Mueller a get out of jail free card. Which ends any hope of them flipping to nail higher fish. If the FISA was obtained under misleading or false premises the evidence obtained would not be admissible. That’s my thoughts I’d be interested in a legal perspective.
  13. The Changing Memo Story

    Could one of you spin this? Because what I’m reading is without the Steele dossier there is no FISA warrant? Furthermore, Deputy Director McCabe testifed before the Committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier information.
  14. The Changing Memo Story

    How would he know did the White house send him a copy? Or did he get a leak from a source?
  15. The Changing Memo Story

    Not sure about that. If it is redactions, as being claimed the document is the same with areas blacked out. That is not a material change it is a security issue. The president has the right to make those changes as he is the final decider on what can or cannot be released. IT"S OUT