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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

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  1. Gotcha. So if I want a carbon cutter exactly like the four- or say the last one, as it probably has some evolutionary improvements, do I pay for the design work or just the production. Does the designer get a royalty from the builder? Just asking- I have no use for a carbon cutter... In the case you are referring to with existing tooling and multiple boats already pulled off that tooling, most designers would accept a royalty for the next boat. Of course if you ask for any help or mods you should expect a bill. Intellectual Property is a very important concept in the design business. Unless the Designer agrees to sell a design outright to a customer (almost unheard of) the Designer retains all IP Rights to that design. An individual customer may contract for a one-off build of a design, and pays the fee for that service. This allows them to have one boat produced to the plans. But the Designer still owns the design and may sell it to other clients, in full or modified, unless contracted otherwise. A yard may contract for a design and might pay an upfront fee, plus royalties for every boat produced. Some Designers, usually ones who are hungry, will take the royalties without the fee. The Designer retains the rights to the design. Contracts sometimes stipulate that the Designer will not produce a similar design for some period of time. This ensures the yard will have a chance to recoup their investment before they have to sell against a sistership offered by a competitor. Of course there is a long, sleazy history of builders who don’t pay the royalty fees, including those who acquire the tooling after the initial builder goes out of business or decides they no longer wish to produce that model. There are other instances of builders doing multiple builds from one-off tooling, without the owner or the builder paying the Designer. This is all Theft of the Intellectual Property of the Designer. There are many other questionable practices regarding Intellectual Property in the boating industry. In an earlier thread Bob Perry mentions he did modifications to an Andrews linesplan. In order to do this, he would have needed the original lines plan, provided to him by the builder. Remember the builder did not own that Intellectual Property and had no business giving it to anyone without express written consent of the Designer. When the builder tried to hand that information to Perry he should have said wait, let’s call the Designer and get his OK. On yet another thread Perry talks about doing a weight study and keel design for a Peterson boat under construction. He mentions the builder provided him Peterson’s drawings, including a lines drawing for another “more IOR” hull. Perry kept this Intellectual Property of Peterson’s instead of returning it to the builder! The builder had no right to provide Perry with ANY of the Peterson drawings without express written consent, and certainly not a lines plan that had nothing to do with the work requested. Remember, this project was for a replacement boat for the customer who chose Peterson over Perry for the contract. No Designer would want his current work handed to his direct competitor. It is difficult to understand someone in the Design Business being that cavalier with Intellectual Property Rights of Designers. Is it any wonder others have no respect for the IP of Designers? AIR I'm in the Engineering industry and I disagree with you. If I have a contract with you to design a custom vessel in the process environment and you complete the design as contracted and you get paid in full, then don't I own the IP. The same goes with a custom yacht. Did Bob Perry not ask Kim Bottles' for permission to publish drawings of FL? On SA or any other form of media. We utilize Engineers to check and verify the work of other Engineers when the risk is high and when you require fresh and unbiased professional opinion.
  2. So Aaron Smith screwed a woman in a public disabled toilet. The rest of the All Black team waited a couple of days and screwed a whole disabled team in full view of the public.
  3. I've followed the thread and all I can say is we need more people like you that are giving back to sailing. There is so much that I've learnt from your thread and there are so many people inspired by your work. Thanks.