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  1. FE28R Tuning Guide anyone?

    I have the rear fair lead taking two loops and most of the load just aft of the high clew on a properly trimmed jib. Just use a marker pen to find your position for your jib The forward fairlead is just 8cm forward. We use a 4:1 purchase and can trim while sheeted. Trimming from windward is right for the boat.
  2. FE28R Tuning Guide anyone?

    I agree with your points. See inhauler thread for my descriptions
  3. Infuckers on the Fareast 28r

    Ultimately you want the capability to trim this from the windward side while under load. You want to be able to inboard the jib clew to coach roof (30degr chamfer). It’s great to shift gears in a puff or with tactical situations as leeward/ windward boat in leebow tacks etc. Your sailmaker need to cut away the jib clew attach the new clew corner high enough to end up at the top of the coach roof. Simple solution There is one simple and at the same time genius solution, but it’s not exacly to class drawing. But since it requires no drilling it’s a great start it you don’t do one design regattas regularly. You simply attach a pair dyneema core line like Marlow D12 to a pair of M10 eye nuts. This end is attached to the inside of of the hull to one the of chainplate bolt ends. The other end is led out to the coach roof on the same side. Splice a ring (1) to the end. Create a 4:1 purchase by Attaching a ring(2) to a fiddle block with becket and cleat. Splice 4-5mm D12 to the fiddle block. Run the D12 two loops through ring (1) and fiddle block and cleat. just run the sheets through ring(2) and point high! The class legal solution Requires a more exact position of the clew corner while sailing, mark before drilling holes for the two fair leads that should be quite close to each other, not like on GJ Bikes photo. I will add some photos
  4. Fareast 28R photo album

    The rudder is too deep, but easy to remove and better stored in a cover. Motor in with hoisted keel an no rudder is doable but could be tricky in windy conditions
  5. FE28R Tuning Guide anyone?

    The boat works great with inhaulers. You should mount the fairleads quite close together in order to not loose power and enable more dynamic adjustments under sail. Important to design jib for close angles incl a high clew cut away our boat took silver in the worlds and we were super fast and pointing high and running low down wind. This boat is really coming alive on all points of sail and wind speeds. We are at max rake, trimming the main hard, max inboard in most conditions. I have more data now from SWE-117 Please look at great pix at www.fareast28r.com or on FB Fareast28R
  6. FE28R Tuning Guide anyone?

    I now have my new set of One Sails 4T Forte sails for my FE28R dialed in. As part of the One Sails Sweden team I will write a tuning guide for them. Gjbike get many things right above. For me the boat, with only one Jib will be sailed very much like a big Melges 24. Doing a lot of turns on the V1 turnbuckles in the transition from light to powered up. Balance between jib and main is paramount for vmg. We have a target at 6.3-6.5 upwind in 12-16kn, trying to sail high instead. The boat need inhaulers and the class is working to get the class rule updated with a smart and simple system. Crew weight placement is very dynamic and far forward in the light and coming back in a breeze. Keep the same optimum heel angle very constant upwind using weight movement and trimming! I will be back with more and contact Filip@onesails.com if you need a really fast set of sails
  7. New Kids on the Block

    I bought a FE28R with the aim to sail with the family and maybe use as rental for 2017 season with the first Worlds. I was already doing a few races on my friend's FE28R and liked the boat. My family, with twins at 9 YO, really liked the boat as a day sailer, not letting me do much. I had a plan to install a light portable bunk in the bow and 2 aluminum pipe berths but no time this season. The boat feels quite safe, but is fully powered up in 10kn. Get a reefable Jib or a 2nd hand M24 jib in windier conditions. We only have the original assy that is smaller and flatter AP design, which feels perfect for family sailing. For me to able to do some active Sailing myself, I entered the boat and a friend to a short handed race, said he Nordic Yacht's Open with a 100 participant and a reversed handicap start. Light winds that increased to 12kn was a perfect test and learning experience. I took some time to find good vmg upwind in the higher Range. We passed all but 8 slower boats, including Seascapes 24 and 27. We were quite happy with our top 10 total. I must say that I am really happy with the boat and the less is more concept is a real strength from a performance perspective using a full racing crew, all smiling when going 18+ kn downwind, but still trucking nicely on the beat. With some bunks for cruising and keel lift, me and the family can join our motorboat friends in to shallows lagoons in our archipelago next summer. And the rental plans is now scrapped, as I am taking the boat to the worlds to win another FE28R as 1st price 😏 http://fareast28r.com/news-posts/world-match-racing-tour-finals-today-2/ For short handed and family use I do like the winches and main fine-trim that enables even my small kids to do the trimming of sails
  8. FE28R and FE23R at Annapolis

    I would guess it's in between on both feel and performance
  9. It's now one week away, Swedens first national class event in the Fareast 28R class. And the forecast is looking good. We have 11 boats secured and hope to see 12. The battle will take place in the Stockholm archipelago on the Kanholms fjärden. We are stretching the season and winter hats will be worn. Most other Boats is on land by then. We are really looking forward to this and will post more info here and on FB. https://m.facebook.com/Svenska-Fareast-28R-Förbundet-1928817434010961/
  10. Fareast 28R National class event Sweden

    It looks lightweight like a Melges 24
  11. Fareast 28R National class event Sweden

    We got 3 star winds in the end. Downwind speeds 18+ on both days. Tight racings and the bullets spread out. The winners in the end was Peder Lanefeldt and Erik Lindsten with a great series. There was no time to freeze despite the frosty conditions.
  12. Fareast 28R National class event Sweden

    We used a fairly hard rig setup, added 10 turns on the forestay. Another main, flat, very little luffcurve, so I needed 5 turns on the D1s. 22-25kn gust to 30. Used a reef in the jib, worked well with the full main. You need to balance the two the get height with speed upwind. If the main isn't working twist more in the jib. Hike hard, we had 4 hiking and me on driving and main, got help in the tacks
  13. Fareast 28R National class event Sweden

    A lot of wind and great speeds this weekend A first video for you maxing out at 18.4 just seconds after hoisting https://www.facebook.com/andreas.emmoth.16/videos/864335293602950/
  14. FE28R and FE23R at Annapolis

    We raceded shorthanded this summer, 5 FE28R,1 FE23R against seascape 24 and 2 27s. FE in the top of the list and we sailed past the 24 and the 27 quite easily. The seascapes were in the mif and lower end of the list of 100 boats. I can't speak of the level of the sailors onboard, but you can clearly see that the FEs are light sportboats and the SCs are more stuck to the water.
  15. more Fareast 28R race results

    And yet another win will come next weekend in the class nationals In Sweden https://m.facebook.com/Svenska-Fareast-28R-Förbundet-1928817434010961/
  16. Fareast 28R trim sheet / tuning guide

    It's me nailing the start with the nice gorilla taped 117 in the white sails. In flat water you want low drag sails but make sure you have some sag and extra power out of the tacks combined with great roll tacks. Pull the traveller a the way up on the new windward side will staying on the lee side. Countdown 321 for common move to the windward rail
  17. Fareast 28R trim sheet / tuning guide

    No guides yet. We will try to make this happen soon within the Swedish fleet. Just like other light boats you will see a lot happening to do the transition from light to powered up, as well as flat to choppy. We just had are great regatta in Stockholm where the class is building. We won the regatta using max rake and quite flat main with loose D1/d2:s and fairly loose headstay in 7-11kn. I am still with the original Dacron sails but could outpoint all the others with too full mains and straight masts. In flat water and 10 kn we are tacking through 75 edge or less withe good bite from keel and rudder. You must load the big rudder a bit to gain max performance in lighter breeze. Traveller is high up, boom slightly to windward. Main sheet as hard as possible without stalling. Crew hiking max hard. See photos from facebook. Look for the Dacron boat with flatter sails. https://m.facebook.com/Svenska-Fareast-28R-Förbundet-1928817434010961/photos/?tab=album&album_id=2110517979174238&mt_nav=1
  18. Fareast 28r ballast?

    Yes, we had are great regatta in Stockholm where the class is building. We won the regatta using max rake and quite flat main with loose D1/d2:s and fairly loose headstay. I am still with the original Dacron sails but could outpoint all the others with too full mains and straight masts. In flat water and 10 kn we are tacking through 75 edge or less withe good bite from keel and rudder. You must load the big rudder a bit to gain max performance in lighter breeze. Traveller is high up, boom slightly to windward. Main sheet as hard as possible without stalling. Crew hiking max hard. No tuning guides yet. We will try to make this happen
  19. Oracle Team USA

    Treskaparre posted a worthwhile, selective, two-photo comparison; as opposed him re-posting a bunch of far less-informative photos that could have instead been posted as a simple link to the source collection; and he did it without any vacuous tin-hat commentary. Refreshing. Whereas I cherished every single one of your 20,000 posts every new poster another potential recruit I guess - groom away Bro And I need a robot to help me level up from newbie 😉
  20. Oracle Team USA

    Hi again. We're do I find the best design posts on the AC forum?
  21. Oracle Team USA

    The AC45f a M$ Hobie Cat. *still birth I did notice the AC72s and the finals kept me awake at night. And I guess that's why I am irritated, I want more of that great development pace. I it's annoying to only see AC45, a-cat, c-cat, phantoms being so far away from what we saw in SF in AC 34 and what the Moths are doing I did find posts on Oracle copying ETNZ ratios and my memory is coming back... Well, thanks for getting me up to speed
  22. Oracle Team USA

    Simon, I see that you are a smart guy and analyze well. And I only sail TP 52 and sport boats. Had some Tornado sailing a few years back. So I am shooting a bit from the hip here...but in a state of anarchy that ok. I agree that findings in different classes will drive us to new levels. I think foils in A-cats could lead to shorter hulls and faster tacking capabilities (and lower weight limit). I think someone will set a tiny pedal on the rail to press and get a small foil boost when tacking, lift nose and then new windward hull up out of the water for a quick tack or something smarter than that. The way to sail cats changed in the 34th AC. But it needs to be simple and stable. Why not go for wands for ride hight some day? If it's more simple, more would approve? Why not have foils that goes both outboard and inboard (curved T:s) for a wider base, where A-cats foiling look far from wide. A-cats are a great development class and this is disruptive times. Small foils are sensitive to angle change and the narrow foil "stance" high rig long hulls is prone to pitching when foiling and that can't be right. Building the perfect one-man cat for fully foiling up and down wind would look and act different. A-cat use long slender piecing hulls to reduce pitching (and drag) and a foiling craft uses foils to reduce pitching (and drag). I just like to facilitate change and I don't have to be right to be happy. When will the first Cat use windward foil for downforce
  23. Fareast 28R

    I just sailed a Fareast28r regatta this weekend i Stockholm. light winds to start, we didn't have the power upwind/mode to match the best. 18-20kn on Sunday was great and it sails a lot like a Melges 24 both upwind and down in these winds, jib up, bow up. Impressive performance. The transition speed from soak to plane is higher though, in comparison to M24. We sailed another race this summer in 14kn and we were gaining on the X-35s starting ahead of us, even upwind. It's a great boat, responds well to melges hiking, but more comfortable. Upwind is surprisingly good, tacking on 70 degr on sunday. Good performance/dollar Don't buy the China sails. We use NS and are happy with them. Carbon tubes, non tapered, is not that expensive, owner will push for a rule change, I would also extend the tiller by 30cm.