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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. ^ How about Charlie Barr, the first rock star AC helmsman? Three time America's Cup winner. Hardest of the hard-core professionals. And he definitely called the shots onboard. He was actually the designer's (N.G. Herreshoff) hired gun. In fact, when Barr wasn't steering Herreshoff's designs, Herreshoff sometimes got so frustrated with the helmsman that he took over himself.. (Oh yeah, Herreshoff was a professional, too) Professional crew? Almost entirely until the 12m era. Examples you might remember would include Olin and Rod Stephens. There's a couple of rock stars for ya. The point is that the professionals have always been with us in the AC, and have been an important part of its success. The large number of amateur and near-amateur AC skippers and crew was pretty much a phenomenon of the 12mR era.
  2. ^You do realize that during the first 100 years of the America's Cup, virtually all the crews and skippers were professionals, don't you?
  3. Cake are round. Pie are squared.
  4. ^ And both the 6mR and the 12mR (as well as the other "metre boat" classes such as the 8's and 10's) were the products of the International Rule, which coexisted with (but outlived) the Universal Rule, which was an all-American creation that effectively died with WWII. The Universal Rule (and eventually, the J-Class within the Universal Rule) was used for the AC between 1920 and 1937. The J's were the largest rating band within the Universal Rule that complied with the DoG upper LWL limit of 90'. After WWII, when the pre-war behemoths were considered too big and expensive, the decision was made to move from the Universal Rule to the smaller and cheaper International Rule 12m class. The 12m boats have a waterline length of just over 44', now the minimum LWL under the DoG as amended to accommodate the smaller boats. The size reduction from the J-Class to the 12mR is actually pretty analogous to the size reduction from the AC72 to the new AC Class. There was a great hue and cry about the loss of glamour and majesty of the AC when the J-to-12mR class change was made, as well. But not by those paying the bills. And the AC has somehow managed to survive for another half-century.
  5. ^^ The Seawanhaka Rule, correctly cited by Sean above, predates the Universal Rule cited by ChainLocker. The Seawanhaka Rule was last used for the 1903 AC. Since it only measured waterline length and sail area, it resulted in boats with a maximum DoG permitted waterline length (or close to it) and massive overhangs. The ultimate incarnation of this rule was Reliance of 1903, which so outclassed the challenger that there was no other challenge for 11 years, and ultimately no America's Cup until 17 years after the 1903 races. ChainLocker's cited Universal Rule was Herreshoff's answer to the totally inadequate Seawanhaka Rule, even though he had exploited the earlier rule to the max. The Universal Rule, although it seems simple, has a lot of underlying measurements which go into the "L" calculation, working in a fashion similar to the 12m Rule, although with different constraints and some different measurement variables. I've owned two Universal Rule boats, a one-design S Class, and a larger Q class. And I've been involved in 12mR boats for 30 years.
  6. ^ I'm not sure the Steve Clark you are referring to is the sclarke SD is responding to.
  7. ^ Yep. Andrew Campbell's father is Bill Campbell. who sailed for America Cubed. Rome Kirby's dad is Jerry Kirby, one of the greatest bowmen of all time. He sailed with just about everybody.
  8. ^ The 2015 balloon is over downtown Hamilton, where the October 2015 ACWS event will be centered. The 2017 balloon is over Dockyard, where the 2017 AC will be based.
  9. ^That's the Oleander, flagship of BCL. She's a highly maneuverable, hard-working little ship, and is Bermuda's primary surface commercial connection to the US east coast.
  10. ^ Just inside the entrance to Mills Creek, I believe.
  11. ^ Artemis has a bit of a leg up in that regard, as they have hired Peter Bromby, a Bermudian who is a four-time Olympian in the star class, and one of Bermuda's best sailors ever. To say he knows these waters well would be a bit of an understatement. Lots of really good sailors with incredible local knowledge in Bermuda, including folks like Glenn Astwood, Olympian in the Tornado. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
  12. ^^^ That may be a bit difficult to do, since the racing will be in Great Sound. Not sure there is a "North Sound" in BER.
  13. ^ So, we agree.15 hours in July, 17 hours in November.
  14. ^ My time calculator says 1400 ADT (BDA in July) = 0500 NZST next day (Auckland in July).
  15. The tax savings for individuals such as sailors and shore crew have a lot to do with California's high state income taxes, which are payable even by non-resident foreign nationals. Countries with tax treaties with the US generally do not give you credit on your home-country national income taxes for California state income taxes paid. As simplistic examples, it you had $100,000 in taxable income earned in California last year as a single person, you would owe the State of California about $7,000, on top of whatever your US federal income tax obligations might be. If you had $500,000 in taxable California income, you would have owed almost $50,000 to the state. For teams which established long-term training bases in CA last time--Artemis and Oracle, for example--the state tax hit on individuals could be significant, especially for higher earners like the sailors and top shore crew. Bermuda has no personal income tax.