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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

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  1. XS 35? Reynolds R33 update

    I guess you'd have to go for a ride on an original r33 and then go for a ride on the improved version. Analogy might be a standard Porsche 911 to a highly modified twin turbo with all performance options...
  2. XS 35? Reynolds R33 update

    it is utterly magnificent and a joy to sail.
  3. Caribbean 600

    many of these proas are incredibly beautiful works of art. An amazing amount of intellectual energy has been spent by some very ingenious individuals trying to get them to work well. Does anyone else get the feeling that the results may never justify the effort? If the proa was the way to go wouldn't VPLP be designing and building them as a much cheaper alternative to the tri? I am awed by the beauty of these proas but I find it hard to believe they will ever be more effective than a good cat or tri.
  4. If you could..?

    I tried it a couple times but the cold water caused shrinkage!
  5. If you could..?

    Live anywhere in the state of Florida with fast sailing as your primary source of amusement, where and why?
  6. Caribbean 600

    That sure is beautiful. Could you explain some of the bits, such as the object below the aka? Any video?
  7. if your wife sits in the corner reading a book she is almost certain to get seasick.
  8. Caribbean 600

    I look down on it!
  9. SeaRail 19 Folds

    Is there a version with different amas?
  10. Kendrick/Scarab

    there's one in socal that has done a lot of damage in the Santa Barbara King harbor race over the years. Look like very nice designs.
  11. Affordable racing tris vs. cats (<35ft)

    There's a Nacra 36 in Roland's front yard a couple miles up the road from my house. If you could get the hulls and parts at a reasonable price you could create something really special.
  12. Small 4 stroke outboards for windrider17

    perfect case for an electric. Honda air cooled is great but pretty loud.
  13. Affordable racing tris vs. cats (<35ft)

    the super turboed r 33 has ridiculous sail area and very tall mast with a horribly skillful pilot and very experienced crew. The Seacart is being handled by very experienced ocean racers. Though I'm the farthest thing from being a naval architect the waterline difference between Mama and an R33 probably isn't such a big factor, in my experience it's the power/weight ratio that is most important and of course one's ability to control the power, in which case I feel like the trimaran is always going to have the advantage.
  14. Affordable racing tris vs. cats (<35ft)

    just for giggles I looked up the ORCA ratings on a few boats in the 30ish range. Remember, ORCA ratings are based on accumulated real world data from ocean racing in southern Cali. in a variety of conditions. The skill of skippers and crew is a factor as is luck. Mama Tried = -70 Fastest R33 with Randy driving = -114 Viva 27 = -17 F32SRX = -97 my Multi 23 = -25 Multi 23 with better skipper = -35 Seacart 30 = -98 F31R = -41 I tend to think these ratings are pretty reasonable because they are based on lots of real data, the biggest variable being skill. For example, you won't beat Randy Reynolds driving his super turboed R33 with experienced crew, especially in light air. You won't touch Pete Melvin driving Mama Tried. Kind of like the fat old guy sitting in his Lazy Boy drinking a 40 oz. thinking he could handle Lebron...
  15. Affordable racing tris vs. cats (<35ft)

    I disagree about Mama Tried as I've raced against her on an R 33. Mama is very fast.