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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
    • B.J. Porter

      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.


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  1. Also Grant Dalton will have to chase down and rugby tackle Russell as he tries to run off with the cup.
  2. The similarities in this edition of the AC to the plot of Happy Gilmore are quite compelling when you look at it. Its the final day, 6 races a piece... Shooter McGavin is obviously JS and Herbie 2.0 is an actual herbie car which Shooter McSpithill is going to pay somebody to drive off the dock into BOTH OR1 and ETNZ thereby allowing OR to wheel out boat number 2 and crippling ETNZ. Everybody thinks its game over for Happy Burling but he somehow manages to win the final race on one foil all the while sailing around the floating wreck of Herbie 2.0 as he has to sail it as it lies. Happy Burling obviously gets the girl too. In this case Rachel Sawden.
  3. Yeah because the Americas Cup is all about the challenger having all the advantages.
  4. Fixed it for you. You make it sound like Artemis are just a bunch of mouth breathers who happen to have put the hours in. Both exceptional teams of exceptional sailors. ETNZ with the better design package. The ability to come from behind down to pure boatspeed and once ahead they could extend into the distance.
  5. They started with a -2 disadvantage last time...
  6. Of course you like rugby league over union. You're Australian. You're the only country to play it.
  7. Well when you have people who voted for Brexit because "The Germans are getting to big for their boots and need to be reminded who won the war"
  8. 1. I think you may be forgetting about a certain orange American. 2. Educated opinion in the UK seems to show that May is in fact the devil.
  9. Couldn't the umpires keep the boat spinning until any advantage has been squashed? I just think 2 boat lengths is way too subjective. Even if the umpires have the technology to measure it the boat has no idea when they have wiped the penalty until the light goes out, at which time they cant start sending it again. Which makes me think most penalties will end up being more than a 2 boat length penalty
  10. +1 I would think most Kiwis liked him when he won them the cup.
  11. I guess a problem with that is for footballers representing their country is a privilege that is aside from their day job of playing club football. Sailing in the AC is the day job for all these guys. And probably a much more stable well paying gig than a lot of other pro sailor roles.
  12. It works the same way as trying to get rid of a 360 pre finish. You don't offset the penalty you don't win. It's not like they will lose an extra place if they get DSQ over finishing 2 boat lengths behind. IMO forcing the penalty to be immediate discourages match racing as if you infringe and are ahead you will have to give up the lead. I don't have a massive issue with the penalty itself only the time restriction. Have we seen a boat do a 360? Is it too much of a penalty on foils or not enough?
  13. I was more referring to the technique of the super aggressive turn.
  14. I was saying I am not an Oracle fan. I don't think ETNZ have displayed a definitive speed advantage against Artemis or OR. Also Oracle will surely make improvements between now and the finals. At the very least ETNZ seem to have the light wind foiling tack mechanics down to a T which shouldn't be hugely difficult to replicate.
  15. A speed advantage over LRBAR and GTF. Over Artemis and OR is less certain since the races were a hell of a lot closer. I would think over the whole wind range ETNZ is probably the best setup and has the widest performance window, whereas we have seen Artemis seems to be moded much better for upper wind strengths, and apparently Oracle for somewhere in the middle. If the final is ETNZ v ART and it is light winds advantage ETNZ. If it is stronger winds the advantage lessens and it becomes more equal and places more responsibility on PB's shoulders hence people not questioning his match racing credentials.