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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Thanks for your good works BJ. A voice of reason crying in the wilderness which will be impossible to replace. Now go fuck off through the Torres Straight and let us know what's going on in Darwin.
  2. Oh come on. Chance in a million. Any chance the yard filled a water tank you don't know about? The excess heel on one tack is a little wierd. If not a centered rig issue, my vote is wind sheer too. Pretty big inversion here last week.
  3. Hayn has the drawings for parts and BSI has the stock. Good on 'em too, great service from both of those companies, in marked contrast to Navtec, once the beancounters got ahold of it, Dunno about the hydraulics either, hope it gets sorted before we run out of rebuild kits and rods.
  4. Bingo!
  5. Thanks for the help guys. Let's see who I am.
  6. Dick.
  7. Jerry Garcia.
  8. Thanks Will! Just what I wanted to hear.
  9. My research shows Nautos makes vang lugs so similar to Hall's they could be sued if there's no patent. I can't vouch for the quality as I've never seen one in person.
  10. Anyone familiar with the Nautos line of equipment in general and maybe even the line of vangs, in specific the #0, part number 91192? It looks like the Hall quickvang, right down to the mast and boom lugs, but the cost is so much less I'm a little wary. I'm trying to set up a customer with a solid vang and I missed the boat with Hall by a matter of days. I was hoping they could resolve their problems and get a quickvang made and to me in time for my guy but it looks like that might not happen.
  11. There is a lot of truth in this. I like to say that sailing is a lot like sex - It's a lot of fun until you start doing it for money. TBS, I've made a decent, though modest, living at it for the last 25 years,and extra money by various marine services for 15 before that, and it has mostly been a lot of fun. There's some good advice here and a lot of it depends on your personality and what you are willing to sacrifice to make a living mucking about with boats. A true professional sailor's job is tough on a family life, you are always on the move. I know guys who have made it work but many more who have gone through a wife or two. Personally, I got tired of having to sail with people I didn't want to because of personality or ability simply because I was being paid to do so. Being a nanny to spoiled rich guys was not a job for me. Deliveries can be defined as taking the wrong boat the wrong way at the wrong time of year and despite the occasional epic good times, is a pretty good opportunity to get dead. I think the best advice above is a marine electronics major with a Diesel mechanics minor, with possibly a refrigeration seminar or two thrown in. This will get you onto the hot shit racing boats bouncing around the cans or longer ocean races, the big money mega yachts without having to deal with the occasionally difficult 1% on a regular basis, and give you a basis for a job at a Yard that's a good fit for you when you get tired of living out of your sea bag. Right now in the Northeast US, a mechanic will be welcomed into at least 75% of the Yards, particularly if he can drive boats, cranes and travel lifts around. Most importantly, the above skills are not tied exclusively to sailboats, which as you may have heard, are disappearing faster than the Arctic Ice. I'm one of those guys who ascribes heavily to the "If you do something you love you never work a day in your life" philosophy. Fortunately, there are guys who love to be inside accumulating vast piles of money which they then spend on their boats. You can be of great assistance to them.
  12. I'm a 3 minute drive to the boatyard, which 9 months of the year has a full selection of sail and power boats, all fueled and ready (more or less) for launch. I also have the keys and knowledge for both of the yardbosses and both cranes. The tricky part would be using Mrs Nettles as ground crew. I've had my eye on a J-46 with a watermaker for years in the event of such an occasion.
  13. Tapped into the plate? My, I bet that was noisy.
  14. What about the Turkey for National Bird? Well I am, and it frosts my cupcake to have it just beginning to get light now, when yesterday the sun was already up. AFAIC morning is great, other than the temperature. The rest of you all can just stay in the rack and leave me alone to my devices. In mid summer I can get an hour or two fishing before work with no interference from the unwashed masses. Generally, the only people out there are there for the same reasons. The good part is we're gaining daylight so quickly this time of year it will only be a few weeks until we are back to a 6:30 sunrise. I do agree that if I had to choose I'd take DST year round, though the 8:14 sunrise in January would be a little tough to take. I'm going to work in the dark then anyway, so WTF. The dogs get fed at the stroke of 7 PM, so if you think we hate the time change in the fall...
  15. Which is why it will never survive constitutional scrutiny. Shouldn't cost more than a couple five hundred grand and 3-5 years to get it that far. Are the legislators really that clueless?