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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  

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  1. The only thing I can think of is that maybe it was going to be expensive to wait in port a couple days, or another ship was scheduled in pier space for unloading/loading. Perhaps that led the captain to risk trying to slip by the storm. I wonder what communications occurred between owners and captain before departing. I agree that it was likely a money decision. I have worked for a few different ship owners in my career and know a ton of people who also work in this business. I can assure you, when it comes to weather routing and the safety of the crew we never question the Captains decisions, and never put money above safety. Lee- You are a great resource for this event then. Can you please weigh in on that you think happened? One second hand report I heard was a hatchcover was ripped off the deck, which quickly flooded one of the cargo holds, quickly causing the ship to list. The lube oil pumps probably lost suction due to the list and severe rolling, and could have caused the turbines to trip, losing propulsion. This was a 40 year old steam ship, when shit starts to go wrong in the engine room, it takes a long time to get the plant back on line. Without propulsion the ship probably found itself beam to the seas and capsized before the crew could get a the lifeboats launched. This ship didnt even have covered lifeboats - grandfathered in by the USCG. Even if they got into the lifeboats, they wouldnt last long in 40 foot seas/100kt winds. I worked on a sister ship 15 years ago and it was old POS back then. Its probably time to rethink the standards that US flag Jones Act ships are held to. I am not saying that this incident was directly caused by the ships condition, and I am sure it was very well maintained, but it definitely didnt help the situation. Just my $.02. Fair winds and my thoughts and prayers go out to the crew and their families.
  2. The only thing I can think of is that maybe it was going to be expensive to wait in port a couple days, or another ship was scheduled in pier space for unloading/loading. Perhaps that led the captain to risk trying to slip by the storm. I wonder what communications occurred between owners and captain before departing. I agree that it was likely a money decision. I have worked for a few different ship owners in my career and know a ton of people who also work in this business. I can assure you, when it comes to weather routing and the safety of the crew we never question the Captains decisions, and never put money above safety.
  3. Why? Don't you people have jobs? This is what you do when you have a job. You, on the other hand, are in college, and should be spending every spare second you have trying to get laid. Hanging on sailing forums with a bunch of old men wont help.
  4. 32 Knots?? Are you one of the wingnuts that also so 30 kts the first week of AYC. If you are get new wind instruments The boat he was on does have Raycrap instruments so it was probably only blowing 8. You can be skeptical all you like but shit, I didn't see you out there. For the most part it was blowing between 18-22. I didnt see anything under 20 the whole race.
  5. dont forget espo is a dick, j29's rule, and keel shoes....
  6. Love to know wich dorags is? Oh for shit's sake, this lover's spat isn't going to spill over into every other thread like that ridiculous Occupy Anarchy crap is it? Because the usual WLIS banter is soooooo thought provoking and inspiring.
  7. Um.....nothing. We are out there for fun. It's beer can racing for fucks sake. Looking forward to seeing the Farr out there. She's a fine boat. What has become the the old Sundari?? Looking forward to it too. The old boat was sold. She is staying local though, Riverside YC I think. Not sure if she will be raced though.
  8. Um.....nothing. We are out there for fun. It's beer can racing for fucks sake.
  9. What kind of boat did Adam end up getting?
  10. Bumfuck CT. But its worth the trip. Though if you're not nearby you can still get excellent deals via online purchasing. They really are quite good - generally things ship same day, though the week after the sale this is not so true. One thing to keep in mind - if you are outside CT and planning to come, check the cost of sales tax versus shipping. Small, expensive items are generally better bought on line, since shipping won't be much and you duck sales tax. Large items like my anchor I am planning to pick up at the store since the tax will be less than the shipping. I know, I order my bottom paint on line there all the time. It amazes me how fast the shipping is.
  11. Bumfuck CT. But its worth the trip.
  12. OMG, I just read the last few pages of this thread, I must admit I havent been following it. This is the first time I have shed a tear for someone I dont know. I am so sorry....
  13. Oh this ought to be good... Heres an idea for a new law - make it illegal to hit a fucking rock 200m off the beach while travelling at 15 kts in a 100k ton ship.