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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
    • B.J. Porter

      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.


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  1. The self (aka sponsor/message) imposed rules make it a bit harder for Dee. No real way to just call the list of guys and gals that she sailed with or against for years to create a team. Yet also a bit easier as choices were removed. We'll find out how unprepared/late Team Clean Seas actually is once the remaining teams are revealed. Do they need to recruit as well or will they announce with a basically full set of crew.
  2. Dee said in the WISP interview that there will be 4 old timers and 6 under 30 on the boat. Both age groups evenly split into male and female. Switching crew between legs will be a thing, certainly for the under 30 division. A fun experience and competitive against the other teams is a tall order. Lots of spots to fill and little time left. I wonder if she'll take a page out of Charles playbook and adds single handed / generalist sailors into the mix. Not that there are that many old timer slots. Cheat and add Alan Roura? [Who has other commitments in the IMOCA class.]
  3. Wikipedia has an ok article with track and sources. The thread in SA has a similar track via marinetraffic with transcribed times and speeds on page 1 post 28. All that "erratic driving" happened after the collision.
  4. Reading through current articles the time of the collision has been corrected to 16:30UTC by the Japanese Coast Guard and even the US Navy does not longer dispute that timing. 16:30UTC is the first sharp turn on the AIS track. Someone or several someones were soundly asleep on the destroyer. Unfortunately others paid for that with their life.
  5. As fa as I can tell from articles the time of the collision has been revised to exactly 1:30am Japanese time aka UTC+9, or 16:30 UTC. One page 1 of this thread here is an annotated AIS track in post #28. 16:30 UTC is marked as position 2. There were no sharp maneuvers or erratic driving until the hit. The turn to starboard as result of the collision is consistent with the damage pattern on both ships. After that waking the captain on the merchant, taking stop, turning around and all of the other things that happen when things go very wrong at night.
  6. Were there any updates to the time of the incident or is it still 1:30 am, presumably UTC+9?
  7. Depends on which type of traction batteries, AGM type has also been available for a long time. In an ideal world you have the actual datasheet for your batteries and can adjust your charging system so that you actually charge the way as the battery likes it. (Measuring voltage at the battery terminals, monitoring temperature, charging to 100% often enough.) Lithium chemistry is getting more popular in traction use but is still rare. Going with one of the big names Hoppecke had Lithium products in all their lines (traction, rail, telco, ...) for a while but you can't really find details as an outsider. They are also working on large scale Lithium, hybrid switcher locomotives and 40 foot container class energy storge. That shift in the industry use could get interesting, much of it will be direct replacement. For example they have 24V 40-400Ah modules with integrated BMS and whatnot, central controller via CAN. Now if you could by those second hand in the future.
  8. Who else. Grade 1 fender material. Quite dense and yet still full of air.^^ "Oh! I talked to all those important people!" No you didn't. Otherwise you had something, anything, interesting to say. Official Servus stream still dead. *yawn*
  9. Today the usual size in Germany is 23/12, 23m height at 12m distance. Comes out to ~30m which is more or less 100ft. No real coincidence there. Let's hope that nobody decides to do some real world night time research on the cladding.......
  10. Working live streaming is (at this time) overrated on ServusTV. What I wonder is if anyone else wants to strangle their commentators? Even without much of a clue about the Ac it is obvious that they are trying very hard to talk the action up when there is nothing to talk about - and still manage to miss live action if there is any....
  11. The idea behind the large alternator(s) on the engine is that there is often no dedicated generator. (Ok, you have one.) Next up is that a leading cause of engine death in sail boats is disuse. If it does not run regularly it will die sooner or latter. (Almost the same story for non liveabord stinkpots too.) Another reason is that the generator may be much more difficult to maintain (even less access) and/or more expensive in consumables. This is especially true on stinkpots that need to run the main engine(s) to move in the first place. Some of them have retrofitted really large alternators occasionally with external rectifiers (+battery capacity, +inverters) to solve this issue. Low engine loading can be an problem, less so with large alternators driving into large battery banks. The alternator can take up a sizable portion of the (smallish) engine power and it becomes more a thermal limit on the alternator side. Anyway. At the end of the day the big issue has been identified right away: The charging system needs a complete makeover if the new battery system is to last any longer than the previous one. All components of it need to be looked at. Not to replace them out of hand but to find out if they'll work as intended with the new system.. Thermal limits is one of the funny things. There is no reason for any alternator to burn up, other than being too cheap for a temperature sensor... Same for the external rectifiers. It makes no sense whatsoever to go external and then leave out temperature monitoring.
  12. What is the goal? Match Racing? Sprints? Looking good on TV and the Internet? Stadium feeling for the guests you have flown in? Race village feeling for the B2B masses like the VOR tries to archive? Somewhat even racing? One technological breakthrough to dominate them all? Easy to skew the cup in any direction, as long as everyone involved is game. What I like to see is much higher wind limits, aka a second smaller wing. RC decides which one gets used. No more grinding / cycling into hydraulic accumulators for half the crew or more. That is just boring. Batteries are an option for some systems. Or maybe just outlaw ganged systems like they are used now. Given the demonstrated risk of collisions and the potential consequences I want more protection for the crew. Squashing the competition is just not a sustainable option. If you move them to the centerline they would be much more protected. (Yes, the holy righting moment. Yes, less to look at since they don't have to move.) Something that would have to be mandated for all boats.
  13. Could be a fskup as well. We should find out at the tail end of the AC. Edit says: Or it's a combo deal. What little information there is says that Robert Stanjek (skipper) was training with Bouwe.
  14. I guess there is only one option left. Someone sponsor a full fledged VOR campaign for both of them and lets find out..... In other news, no new news. (germanoceanracingteam.com is down for a relauch, with the current VOR logo. Seems like a hard hint to me.)