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  1. VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    If so, time for the Red Queen's most favorite phrase...
  2. VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    Antennas... There is one authoritative source, the Vestas incident report from last edition. It lists all navigation equipment including: 2 VHF Antenna The SI attachment 2 (ORGANISING AUTHORITY SUPPLIED ELECTRONIC AND MEDIA EQUIPMENT) is quite useless, the contents are from last edition for the old aerial minus some items...
  3. Next VOR on IMOCAs?

    IIRC their old SD15 saildrive, quite the standard setup other than some custom firmware/datalogging in the controller to enforce the no propulsion rule. (The folding prop has to spin to unfold.) The big thing (reading the EN article) is that the class encourages the use of renewable energy. The actual rule change is still unclear to me but encourages != mandates. ... There are 3 (4) rules about propulsion. A diesel has do be minimum 37 HP (~28kW) - But there is no minimum for electric motors. min bollard pull of 280 daN min boat speed of 5 kts for 5 hours That gives you minimum prop size, pitch and rpm. Energy storage follows from the 5h requirement. Boats also carry 20 literes of sealed emergency diesel. How far/long does that last on the average IMOCA? ... I'd start from the OceanVolt system. Their new ServoProp looks interesting. Maybe mash it and their modular shaft system together for more peak power. I think some form of variable pitch is a must. I'd like the chance to charge fast or slow. Overpowered? Hit the charge-a-lot button, by the time the sailchange is done the batteries are full. Heck, sounds like the place for some smart control software development. Charge in the puffs, don't charge in the lulls.
  4. Next VOR on IMOCAs?

    Come on people... This is sponsored sailing. It is all about the message. Not the right message, no money, no sailing. Diesel is a no go at this time. (Not just VW, everbody is cheating on emissions. All major makes have been caught with the same or similar software.) Hybrid is yesterday. Electric is the hype. So electric it is. Sense or no sense does not come into play. Money please is where it starts and ends.
  5. VOR 2017-18

    Just a tiny bit. Ok, a lot. It just does not compare favorably to one of the "clean up the neighborhood" drives. Those tend to end with a photo of a trailer full of trash at the end of the day. Even when the elementary school does it.
  6. Next VOR on IMOCAs?

    I think so too but I'd like to know the details. The IMOCA fleet knows how to do it. OTOH the amount of hydrogenerator use in the VOR is ...pathetic.
  7. Banque Populaire IX

    Was Upside Up even on? Did they use the second clam cleat trick to limit runout and ease recovery? (Sail -> electric cam -> standard cam/cleat/whatever. The electric cam releases a predetermined length of sheet, not everything. Good in case of false activation and normal problems. The singlehander does not have to put everything back together. Maybe not so great in SHTF situations.)
  8. Next VOR on IMOCAs?

    I'd like to know more about the upcoming "no diesel" rule IMOCA decided on. Should be a lot of fun for VOR if that includes generators.
  9. Next VOR on IMOCAs?

    Current retail prices, no airtime included FB500 system ~$13.5k FB250 system ~$8.8k FB150 system ~$5.5k Mini-C system, GMDSS certified ~$2.7k, less than half without cert The VOR uses 1 FB500, 2(?) FB250 and 2(?) Mini-C. + a portable system ($2.4k) in the grab bag. The portable is from official noticeboard document - which in turn is from July 2016 for the old antenna park. The website information is from last edition, pictures are older and include Groupama...
  10. VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    No need to carry the big Fleet Broadband systems for that. The Sailor Mini-C should be all that is needed, IIRC they carry two of them for that purpose. I'd say the big thing is that there is some movement in the market. The alternatives are not good enough yet for RTW races and most likely not rugged enough for sailing in general at this time but it is getting there. ------------ Vestas. The funny part about all this is that 11th Hour seems to be the main sponsor -they have the by far biggest logo- but is (almost) never mentioned.
  11. VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    If you don't need the coverage in some far away corners of the world KVH HTS is an alternative. 10Mbit down, 3 Mbit uplink is way way faster than Fleet Broadband. Terminal prices are similar but Inmarsat BGAN happens to be -roughly- 30 times the price per GB than the new KVH V7-HTS system... More interesting is that they include an 2nd(!) unmetered always on channel. Quite slow (128kbit down 64kbit up) in the free version but just for a few coins you can boost that up all the way to 4Mbit down 1Mbit up. ($9.5k per month please) The Inmarsat equivalent is FleetXpress which is still more expensive.
  12. VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    Unlikely. VOR did not add it to the leg specific SI like in leg 4.
  13. VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    Looks like this one is over unless Brunel finds a hole. Same down the track, TTOP should stay ahead Mapfre.
  14. VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    Had a really nice cold that knocked me out flat for a week. Together with the disenchantment from the HK incident that really dropped interest levels to nutthin. Great timing to come back too. =/ I saw a "Death in the VOR" headline yesterday somewhere else and the first though was: Scallywag or Vestas? Right after that the news that Vestas dropped the rig was just the BINGO! cherry on top of the cake... I won't say expected, that goes way too far, but not surprising either that it happened on Scallywag. They had just too many serve incidents on previous legs for my taste. [Boom to the head, MOB.] With a the release of more information by Scallywag much of the discussion and FP articles became obsolete. My conclusion is that the boats are not made for this. (Maybe none of the current crewed monos is.) There are just not enough good tie in points and jack lines. Unclipping to move -> boom to the head -> overboard -> dead. (It is unclear to me if the hit was survivable, MOB or nor.) That was of course followed by the picture of clipping into lifelines. I really doubt that the crew is doing that because they ignore sturdier and easier to reach tie in points. Below is a deathtrap too, hard edges and sharp corners, not enough nets. How many people have been launched from the shitter so far and crashed headfirst into the bulkhead? At this point someone has to break the neck before that gets changed. OD über alles! (If anyone does not think so rewatch that raw again, Z.E.R.O. handholds for short people on the shitter.) I'd put a net in front of it, it's not like it is in the way of anything. A convenient place to store more TP and ointments if anything. Or the whole no diesel heater discussion. Small cheap stuff that improves the quality of life a lot. Better rested, more alert, less incidents, less people injured, less chance someone dies...............
  15. VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    The teams have 2 mains and can switch it 3 times. (More often with permission from the IJ, in case something goes really wrong.) So switching back should not be a real problem as long as the sail is not on a container ship to nowhere at this time..