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  1. bill4

    World Sailing Vote ... Proposal M36

    No, that doesn't work... But I think you get my drift on why time the boats.
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    World Sailing Vote ... Proposal M36

    Plus, making this up as I go, all boats are timed, so every boat length makes a difference. The male could take the lead with a 20 second advantage, but the female could make up that 20 seconds without having to actually pass her competitor.
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    World Sailing Vote ... Proposal M36

    A relay could be interesting. Committee boat with a start line on one side and a finish line on the other. Simple windward leeward. As the male in the Finn finishes, the female in her Aero 7 (E.G.) starts. She can't cross the start line until her team mate finishes. If a few men are finishing at once, the women have to jockey for position at the same time as being wary of when she can start. The men then wait for the women to finish and they start the second leg in the same manner. Repeat so that each team member starts and finishes twice. 10 races one throw out. Maybe different leg lengths for the men and women.
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    World Sailing Vote ... Proposal M36

    This really is fucked up. "New Mixed One-Person Dinghy Event / Retain Equipment and New Equipment – this event proposal renames the current “Heavyweight Men’s One Person Dinghy” to “Mixed One-Person Dinghy.. The Finn would be retained for the men’s equipment and new equipment would be selected for the women’s event that suits women of around 70kg.* * This will be changed. The Equipment Committee will define the criteria to decide the equipment in November 2018, with the intention to have a one-person women’s boat to suit a different physique." So - if the Finn is one boat, and another boat is being chosen for heavy-weight women, my math tells me that is a total of two boats. How the hell is this one Event? A handicap fleet in the Olympics would be novel. I even tried reading M-22 with a Romanian accent and still couldn't get it to make sense. This is what the "best of the best" in our sport's governing body could come up with. How comforting.
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    The VX Evo

    Yup - sold more than 10 million records worldwide. Sounds kinda like the Laser!
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    The VX Evo

    Thread drift anyone? From introducing an awesome new high end design that will hopefully satisfy the needs of a decent sized piece of the action to talking about Aeros and Lasers. That's like discussing a new BMW and having people chirp on about Honda and Toyota.
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    World Sailing Vote ... Proposal M36

    Found it. http://www.sailing.org/news/86947.php#.WvpktOvOerU
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    World Sailing Vote ... Proposal M36

    When I click on the "accepted proposal" link, I see a proposal from the Romanian Sailing Federation. Is there an actual WS Council decision?
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    Olympic classes support in the USA

    Maybe they will put an Aero rig on it to keep everyone happy!
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    Olympic classes support in the USA

    I hadn't been keeping up on all the latest regarding the 2024 Olympics. At the bottom of this post are three articles that describe what is going on. In summary (quoting from one of the articles): What by all accounts the WS leadership are pushing for 2024: Female Kiting, format TBD (different venue than Sailing) Windsurfer (new class TBD, not RSX) Laser Radial (with a new rig) 49er FX Male Kiting, format TBD (different venue than Sailing) Windsurfer (new class TBD, not RSX) Laser (with a new rig) 49er Mixed (one male, one female) Nacra 17 (foiler, being introduced in 2020) Beneteau Figaro 3 (offshore double-handed overnight "marathon") https://www.facebook.com/NAFinnclass/ https://www.sail-world.com/news/204915 https://www.sailingillustrated.com/single-post/2018/05/03/Olympic-Classes-In-less-than-48-hours-over-5000-have-signed-the-Changeorg-petition-asking-World-Sailing-to-Save-our-Sport
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    Olympic classes support in the USA

    Thanks for your thoughtful comments. Where do you think the "emerged" nations would lose participation? I just can't see big non-Olympic fleets suffering. Nor can I see a major boatbuilder such as RS suddenly losing boat sales of all their products.
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    Olympic classes support in the USA

    1000's? Interesting. That number surprises me. Argentina, Brazil, China, India, Indonesia, Mexico, Poland, South Africa, South Korea, Turkey, Egypt, Iran, Nigeria, Pakistan, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Taiwan, Thailand are referred in Investopedia as "emerging nations". So sailing would fold or significantly shrink by 1000's in many of those countries? How many do you think would throw in the towel from the non-emerging nations? If I look at the UK nationals numbers from Y&Y, how many of the adult classes (noting the FInn and Laser are the only active Olympic fleets) would fold/diminish, and where would they go? Thanks for the nod, Dogwatch. We would be the "North" in "North America". I couldn't see a decline in sailboat racing if it wasn't an Olympic sport. We represent a small segment in global terms anyway. But we share start lines with US sailors all the time, so there are some similarities. From what I can tell, the biggest growth here remains Masters events - not only do people just fall into it via aging, but you get people returning to the sport after a few years off.
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    Olympic classes support in the USA

    I don't think the Olympics needs sailboat racing and sailboat racing doesn't need the Olympics. I believe the Finn would manage just fine without the Olympics and they have a tremendous masters scene. Same with the Laser. If the only reason a given class is popular is because it is in the Olympics, there is an inherent problem with that class. If they removed sailing from the Olympics, how many sailors would we lose? And how much critical advertising dollar would the IOC lose? I don't recall seeing a lot of Harken or Zhik ads watching on TV... And it ain't exactly the men's final in the 100 meters in terms of excitement. So no significant value to either side - reality is probably both lose financially. But I do respect tradition, and sailboat racing has been part of the Olympics since 1908. So, what the hell, being an Olympic sport is kinda cool.
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    Fleets for Nationals

    Why more people don't sail in California is a different question. Why those that do sail may not want to travel to Florida for National championships probably has something to do with the distance (IMHO). Being in the middle of nowhere, we move dinghies in bulk all the time - lots of multi boat trailers at the club. The closest club of any consequence is a 4 hour drive, and we travel up there 2 - 4 time per season. And our keeners load up a number of times over the season to travel to points afar. Nearest salt water is 12 hours. So, travel comes naturally to us. But - of the 30 odd active Laser sailors here, not many are going to travel 4800km to Nova Scotia for the Laser Nationals. And Nova Scotia is an absolutely beautiful spot. And when the Nationals are out West - very few from the east (generally) come out. London to Garda? A picnic drive for us!