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  1. Hard vs soft dinghy

    I do like the look of color coordinated chaps with the big boat.
  2. Hard vs soft dinghy

    Not to sound pedantic, but registering a sailboat as a fishing vessel has nothing to do with the design term for the vessel type. You may not consider your boat to be a yacht, but if she was originally designed for pleasure boating than she is one. Registering a sloop as a schooner won't change the number of masts she has.
  3. Hard vs soft dinghy

    Yacht is the correct term for a non-commercial, enclosed sailing craft with interior accommodation. It has nothing to do with whether you choose to live aboard or weekend cruise or race. It's a technicality, but something I'd like to point out.
  4. Hard vs soft dinghy

    Speaking as someone who has lived aboard for several years I'd like to point out that there is a difference between living onboard a yacht and living on a derelict that can't move (and hence can't empty the holding tank etc...). There shouldn't be a problem with livaboards who take care of their boat and don't let it become a hazard to navigation. It's the people anchored in rusty frankendumpsters that can't safely prepare or leave when a hurricane comes through that are the problem. They endanger others with their behavior at that point.
  5. Hard vs soft dinghy

    I rowed the 8, it handled beautifully but was a little tender (at least compared to the pudgy).
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    I'm OK with rowing, but it's really sailing that does it for me. I also like using the outboard too much to bother rowing most of the time. It does about 25 miles on a tank of gas at 5 knots. There are a lot of beautiful rowing dinghies in Maine, they go well with all the Hinckleys and Morris yachts up there. I was never sure whether to join the hard dink or inflatable side of the dock when I was there.
  7. Hard vs soft dinghy

    Yeah, I think it's a good candidate for that thread.
  8. Hard vs soft dinghy

    Pretty much, although I've had some good races against the walker bay 10 (different boats in Grenada and Antigua). In light air and upwind I'm a lot slower, but surprisingly the pudgy has an edge if the wind is over 15 knots. The walker bay gets squirrely in those conditions and was noticeably slower downwind. My hypothesis is that the ends are very fine and the midsection is very full and like an IOR boat it doesn't like to be driven at max hull speed downwind. My best sailing condition is a broad reach in 15-20 knots. I've tried Bob's walker bay and it does row beautifully though. I've also raced optimists and a hunter 90 in the pudgy, and that didn't end so well...
  9. Hard vs soft dinghy

    I like some of the design features in the B-10, but agree it's very heavy. It'll never plane, but it's not designed for that. I suspect the trinka would row a lot better with finer waterlines and a narrower beam. I'd be interested to see them sail against one another. The trinka has a nicer hull shape but the bautec boat has a lot more sail area if you get the full battened sloop rig. I suspect either one would be quicker than a pudgy.
  10. Hard vs soft dinghy

    The designs are evolving from the standard surf board. I think the newer SUPs have finer ends like a kayak to get the prismatic coefficient lower and be more easily driven, and they do seem faster. They were still not as quick as the Polynesian racing outrigger canoes (they would keep up with Evenstar at 8 knots), but they were close, and probably could do 5-6 knots.
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    I was not impressed by the performance of most paddleboards I saw until we got to French Polynesia, where they were made from carbon, had wave piercing bows and athletic canoe racers paddling them. No matter how hard I tried I couldn't keep up with them sailing the pudgy, even in 25 knot winds, and I can usually overhaul most (plastic) kayaks and paddelboards. I've only used a SUP once, visiting Bob's shack for the 4th of July. It was kind of fun.
  12. An unusual hitchhiker...

    Wow, really cool.
  13. Hard vs soft dinghy

    Yeah, and they rattle because of it. The boat goes as much as 0.5 knots faster when I pull them out, which I can do lower than a beam reach. I think that's the reason her fastest point of sail is a broad reach. That being said, she's not a performance boat. The rudder is a flat panel too, and I broke mine between the pintles, so David Hulbert bolted 1/8" alloy plate to both sides of the stock rudder and sent me a new one.
  14. Hard vs soft dinghy

    That's a really cool dinghy.
  15. Hard vs soft dinghy

    That's because doing 7 knots in a Pudgy is possible, but not a regular occurrence. The polars are speeds the boat would be expected to maintain, rather than surfing. They put UV retardant resins into some thermoplastics, I believe the pudgy is made from a fairly high quality variant of polyethylene. The hull is still springy if you hit it (I know this because of an...accident...I had when I first tried the boat with the engine, which doesn't have reverse ), definitely not brittle.