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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Just checked the results since 2004, Zana was only one hour behind the leader 30 miles to Hobart when they broke. From 2005 until 2012 Konika/Lahana has finished between 6 hours to 14 hours behind the first place boat. With the new IRC rating, baring any accidents, they should be able to overcome the speed difference.
  2. Rio's IRC TCC is 1.72, its 25 tones, its supposed to be faster than Lahana in downwind configuration, has no water ballasts and no canting keel but a lifting keel. since Lahana, it has gotten 2 tones lighter and sails without the 6 tones of water, has a larger Main because of the new longer boom, its got larger spinnakers because of the longer bow sprit, the bulb is down an extra meter and half. the back 52' of the boat is new and wider. Lahana was already a great upwind boat, Rio should be even better with the new wider and more stable back half. Rio also has new set of sails which it did not have before.
  3. 2 tones plus 6 tones of water ballast plus better IRC rating. It used to finish only an hour or two behind Wild Oats, if it does the same this year, it will beat all the other four on handicap.
  4. IRC, you gotta read the whole sentence, the canters will owe Rio between 4-6 hours I think Rio will be the fourth boat to finish (boat for boat) ahead of Ragamuffin.
  5. Do you know how much time the canters owe Rio?
  6. Betting that the five will end up in this order in IRC 1-Rio100 2-Wild Oats 3-Ragamuffin 4-Loyal 5-Comanche
  7. Here is how the five will end up in IRC 1-Rio100 2-Wild Oats 3-Ragamuffin 4-Loyal 5-Comanche
  8. Unfortunately Sydney to Hobart's overall result is not a very good indicator of the yacht's speed, you might have to track the race segment per segment to see at what point of sail each one excels. I think seeing the results for all five of these 100' boats in Transpac will be much more telling but not all are doing it. Of course only one qualifies for the Barn Door trophy.
  9. Yes, there is talk of it if ORR allows it and rates it, the boat still has to be allowed to race with it. If the theories are true, it can make these boats substantially faster downwind.
  10. 24,950 KGS based on its new IRC cert, but the key is not having the 6 tons of water ballast. She was 27t but sailed around at 33 tons.
  11. In those conditions Rio100 would kill it. 10,000KGs lighter and far narrower at the waterline, looks like a TP100'.
  12. http://www.livesaildie.com/nip-tuck-rio-100/
  13. http://www.sail-world.com/USA/Bakewell-White-supermaxi-designed-to-take-Transpacs-Barn-Door-Trophy/124205 The refit was a very large job, took eight months with 25 people working on it full time, 55' of the old boat was cut off including all water ballasts, the new back end is one meter wider than before, lifting keel and twin rudders added. New boom, new interior, the mast was completely overhauled, all new sails. It weighs 7-10 tons less than all other Maxis. 800 sqm spinnakers and 300 sqm Main. Built for mainly downwind racing of 8-18 knots.
  14. Newest 100'er. September 5th 2014. Rio 100' arrived today in Gulf Harbor/NZ from Cookson's Yachts. Bakewell-White 100' 20' wide, Lifting keel, Manual winches, No movable ballast. 23 tonnes Twin rudders Target; Transpac Barn Door It's being assembled this weekend and will hit water for the first time on Monday the 8th of September.