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  1. The Russians, through Trump didn't bring us 1984 in a vacuum. The right has been laying the foundations of a misinformed populace for years.
  2. Drip Drip Drip

    Special counsel issues indictment against 13 Russian nationals over 2016 election interference By Veronica Stracqualursi Updated 1:04 PM ET, Fri February 16, 2018 Sources: Rick Gates close to plea deal 01:52 (CNN)A federal grand jury in the District of Columbia returned an indictment Friday against 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities accused of violating US laws to interfere with US elections and political processes. The indictment charges all of the defendants with conspiracy to defraud the United States, three defendants with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud, and five defendants with aggravated identity theft. https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/16/politics/mueller-russia-indictments-election-interference/index.html It will be interesting to see which of these folks are linked to the Trumpski crime family
  3. Trump's Physical

    Trump sits down in the examination room, removes his MAGA hat to reveal a big drooling toad on his head "Whoa, what's that"? exclaims the Dr, "Well it all started with a boil on my ass" replied the toad
  4. Roy Moore 3rd rail?

    Sure seems to matter to the Republicans when they're gerrymandering or engaging in voter suppression
  5. Aloha & welcome to Kenya

    Looks like Obama's kama'aina wanted to let the toddler in chief know how they felt. Donald Trump mocked by Hawaiians holding 'welcome to Kenya' signs http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-hawaii-protest-welcome-to-kenya-birtherism-obama-asia-tour-a8037801.html Hopefully he seethed all the way to Tokyo.
  6. What is it they're hiding this time around - Putin's fingerprints? Georgia election server reportedly wiped in wake of lawsuit Secretary of State Brian Kemp, a defendant in the case, says he had nothing to do with it. https://www.engadget.com/2017/10/26/georgia-election-server-wiped-lawsuit/ There's something going on in Georgia. First, the state rejected help from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to inspect its voting equipment for potential hacker inroads. Strangely, the man responsible for this and a massive private data leak, Georgia's Secretary of State Brian Kemp, was placed on a DHS election cybersecurity panel. Now the Associated Press reports that a computer server important to a lawsuit against Georgia election officials has been wiped clean right after the suit was filed. According to the report, the data wipe was revealed in an email sent from an assistant state attorney to the case's plaintiffs. The AP made a public records request for more emails and confirmed the wipe. The original lawsuit, by election reform advocates, was filed in order to have Georgia retire the outdated technology the state uses for elections. The server wiped is the same one that was shown to have a massive security issue by a security expert. The AP says that it's not clear who ordered the data wipe, but the election center it's housed at in Kennesaw, Georgia, answers directly to Kemp. He's running for governor next year and is the main defendant in the suit mentioned above. His office has denied responsibility for the server erasure to the AP.
  7. Yet more GOP election skullduggery!

    Interesting indeed! Let's hope that someone takes a hard look at the data in Wi, PA & MI before they wipe them clean too. It's pretty easy to adjust 77,000 votes in 14,000,000 if you're already inside the system! Congressman Says It’s ‘Quite Possible’ A Special Election Was Stolen From A Democrat https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hank-johnson-georgia-special-congressional-election_us_59f9faa2e4b046017fb07bc2
  8. Taxes=Beer=Sarah

    Seriously..........is this what we've been reduced to? So a major tax reform bill was explained to Trump and now he wants share his new understanding with the loyal knuckle draggers. Sad
  9. So Manafort has, or rather had, 3, THREE, current US passports! WTF Makes it easier to 'prove' that you weren't somewhere huh? Just like Cohen's passport allegedly 'proves' that he wasn't at the Prague meeting mentioned in the dossier - he has 2 passports. http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/31/politics/manafort-3-passports/index.html Manafort has 3 passports, traveled to China with phone registered under fake name "Manafort currently has three US passports, each under a different number. He has submitted 10 passport applications in roughly as many years, prosecutors said."
  10. Terror in New York truck runs down bikers

    JFC Is there no tragedy that you won't exploit to vomit your warped agenda? Care to comment on the 900+ people that have died or 2,000 injured with 'tools' since Las Vegas? You truly are a Tool With A Tool
  11. For those of us who don't live it the RW fantasy/fake/"oh look, a squirrel" world, this is what collusion looks like! Trump campaign analytics company contacted WikiLeaks about Clinton emails http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/25/politics/cambridge-analytica-julian-assange-wikileaks-clinton-emails/index.html
  12. Palin To Become Ambassador To Nambia

    I've heard that it makes a great rub for caribou steaks
  13. Now it's his Council on Infrastructure DTS http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/17/politics/trump-ends-council-on-infrastructure/index.html Probably needs to focus on the 'Council for Hate & Division' or his 'Council on Voter Suppression' Perhaps he'll start a Council for Russian Affairs?
  14. How bad could this be?

    And so it begins - "Commence the purging of all who oppose us" http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/department-of-justice-voter-purge_us_595d22b1e4b0da2c7326c38b?1g9&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009 This DOJ Letter May Be More Alarming Than Trump Commission’s Request For Voter Data “I really worry that at the end of the day there’s gonna be a lot of noise about this Kobach-Pence commission and people will miss the enforcement efforts of DOJ.” Former Department of Justice officials and voting advocates are seriously alarmed over a DOJ letter sent to states last week that they say could signal a forthcoming effort to kick people off voter rolls. This comes as national attention focuses on several states blocking a request for voter information from President Donald Trump’s commission to investigate voting fraud, which does occur, but is not a widespread problem. The DOJ sent the letter to 44 states last Wednesday, the same day the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity sent a letter controversially requesting personal voter information. The DOJ letter requests that election officials respond by detailing their compliance with a section of the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (NVRA), which covers 44 states and was enacted to help people register to vote, but also specifies when voters may be kicked off the rolls. Several experts said it’s difficult not to see the DOJ letter in connection with the commission’s letter as part of a multipronged effort to restrict voting rights. Former Justice Department officials say that while there’s nothing notable about seeking information about compliance with the NVRA, it is unusual for the department to send out such a broad inquiry to so many states seeking information. Such a wide probe could signal the department is broadly fishing for cases of non-compliance to bring suits aimed at purging the voter rolls. “These two letters, sent on the same day, are highly suspect, and seem to confirm that the Trump administration is laying the groundwork to suppress the right to vote,” said Vanita Gupta, the CEO of the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights and former head of DOJ’s civil rights division under President Barack Obama. “It is not normal for the Department of Justice to ask for voting data from all states covered by the National Voter Registration Act. It’s likely that this is instead the beginning of an effort to force unwarranted voter purges.” These two letters, sent on the same day, are highly suspect, and seem to confirm that the Trump administration is laying the groundwork to suppress the right to vote. Vanita Gupta, head of DOJ’s civil rights division under President Barack Obama. “If this went to any individual states, I don’t think anybody would’ve blinked twice,” said Justin Levitt, a professor at Loyola Law School who served as deputy assistant attorney general in the civil rights division in the Obama administration. The letter asked for public information that was uncontroversial, he added, but what made the letter “really weird” was that it was sent out to so many states. “The Department of Justice does investigations all the time, but those are usually based on individualized predicates to believe that there’s a problem in a given area, in a given jurisdiction. And I’m not aware of a similar letter being sent to blanket jurisdictions across the country,” he said. The NVRA requires states to “conduct a general program that makes a reasonable effort to remove the names of ineligible voters from the official lists.” If a state wants to act to remove a voter from its rolls, it must first send a broad, nondiscriminatory solicitation seeking a confirmation of address to those registered. If a person fails to respond, they can only be removed from the rolls if they don’t vote in the next two consecutive federal elections. In the past, voting rights groups have used the legislation as a powerful tool to try to prevent states from kicking eligible voters off their rolls. The Supreme Court will consider a case next term dealing with whether a voter removal process used in Ohio is violating the NVRA. The DOJ letter asks the states covered by the NVRA to provide information on the processes they use to remove people from the voting lists and the people authorized to implement them. It also asks for data from recent years on the number of voters removed from the voting rolls and the reasons they were removed. “When you see DOJ send a bunch of letters like this requesting information about compliance with the law, that’s usually a sign that they’re kicking an enforcement campaign into gear,” Sam Bagenstos, who served as the principal deputy assistant attorney general for civil rights from 2009 until 2011. “It looks like what they’re doing is they’re laying the groundwork to file lawsuits against states that, in their view, aren’t kicking enough people off of the rolls.” “It looks like what they’re doing is they’re laying the groundwork to file lawsuits against states that, in their view, aren’t kicking enough people off of the rolls.” Sam Bagenstos, former principal deputy assistant attorney general for civil rights Devin O’Malley, a Justice Department spokesman, said the department’s review of list maintenance procedures hadn’t been done in many years. “The Department of Justice is committed to free and fair elections for all Americans. Congress enacted the NVRA’s list-maintenance provisions specifically to advance that goal. The Department had not conducted a review of state and local list-maintenance activities under the NVRA for many years,” he said in a statement. “The Department looks forward to working with state and local election officials to facilitate appropriate list-maintenance activities toward our common goal of free and fair elections for all voters.” A DOJ official also said the department had not coordinated with the separate election integrity commission. But Bagenstos said he was skeptical the two efforts weren’t related and were part of a multifaceted approach by the Trump administration to make voting more difficult. “What an amazing coincidence that these letters went out on the same day. This administration is, without even knowing it, doing parallel efforts to try to trim the voting roll. I don’t buy it,” he said. He added that the voter fraud commission led by Vice President Mike Pence and Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach was trying to create a nationwide database of voter registration that would paint a picture of potential voter fraud that could then be used to justify more restrictive voting laws. David Becker, the executive director of the Center for Election Innovation and a former DOJ lawyer, agrees. “In the quarter-century since passage of the NVRA, of which I spent seven years as a DOJ lawyer enforcing the NVRA, among other laws, I do not know of the DOJ conducting any other broad-based fishing expedition into list maintenance compliance, whether during Democratic or Republican administrations,” he wrote in a Thursday op-ed. Becker also noted it was strange the DOJ letter only focused on voter list maintenance procedures and did not want to examine compliance with parts of the law aimed at making it easier to vote. Allegra Chapman, director of voting and elections at nonprofit group Common Cause, said she found it striking the DOJ was uninterested in the aspect of the law that provided voter registration opportunities at public assistance agencies. “To me, that indicates this agency just has zero interest in ensuring the rights of poor Americans too and ensuring that, you know, people across the income divide are equally being given the registration services that they’re entitled to under federal law,” she said in an interview. While Bagenstos said he was alarmed by both the Kobach and DOJ requests, he believed the department could be a much more potent tool in curbing access to the ballot box. “On Kris Kobach’s work on this commission, they’re going to get a lot of pushback, they’ve already gotten some pushback from states. It’s all been sort of ham-handed,” he said. “They don’t really have staff, so that’s all really amateurish and it might not go anywhere. But the folks at DOJ know what they’re doing and I really worry that at the end of the day there’s gonna be a lot of noise about this Kobach-Pence commission and people will miss the enforcement efforts of DOJ.” “DOJ, at the end of the day, is more likely to be successful as a tool in this process than is this commission, so that’s why I worry more about them,” he said. Read the DOJ letter below:
  15. President Nutzo Strikes Again

    Good attempt but not even close to being accurate! Starting on August 25th, he sent then CIA Director John Brennan to brief the 'gang of 8' but McConnell would have nothing to do with it. In Sept he sent Counterterrorism & Homeland Security adviser Lisa Monaco, then FBI head James Comey and Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson to brief the 'gang of 12' and once again it was McConnell & the (treasonous) Republicans who nixed releasing the information to inform the publc.
  16. How bad could this be?

    Wow! Once they start cross referencing this data with other databases such as the census & whatever they get from the Kremlin, we'll have voter suppression on steroids. Brought to you by the party that can't win elections without cheating - gerrymandering, vote suppression, baseless investigations into political rivals and now apparently colluding with a hostile foreign government. Perhaps they should just try to find a platform that's actually good for the country and it's people rather than themselves, or at the very least less abhorrent to most.
  17. So Comrade Trumpski had his tax lawyers (since 2005) send out a letter claiming that he had "no income from Russia - with a few exceptions". Turns out they have more than a few ties to Russia themselves - who could have imagined that? http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trumps-tax-law-firm-deep-ties-russia/story?id=47376041 Donald Trump's tax law firm has 'deep' ties to Russia 0 Shares Email The lawyers who wrote a letter saying President Trump had no significant business ties to Russia work for a law firm that has extensive ties to Russia and received a “Russia Law Firm of the Year” award in 2016. Sheri Dillon and William Nelson, tax partners at the law firm Morgan, Lewis & Bockius, which has served as tax counsel to Trump and the Trump Organization since 2005, wrote a letter in March released by the White House on Friday stating that a review of the last 10 years of Trump’s tax returns “do not reflect” ties to Russia “with a few exceptions.” In 2016, however, Chambers & Partners, a London-based legal research publication, named the firm “Russia Law Firm of the Year” at its annual awards dinner. The firm celebrated the “prestigious honor” in a press release on its website, noting that the award is “the latest honor for the high-profile work performed by the lawyers in Morgan Lewis’ Moscow office.” According to the firm’s website, its Moscow office includes more than 40 lawyers and staff who are “well known in the Russian market, and have a deep familiarity with the local legislation, practices, and key players.” The firm boasts of being “particularly adept” at advising clients on “sanction matters." Following the release of the letter, Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn) noted the firm’s connection to Russia, calling it “unreal." Asked if there could be other business ties between Trump and Russian partners, Sheri Dillon told ABC News that “the letter speaks for itself.” As for the firm’s presence in Russia, a firm spokesperson said that no lawyers from Morgan Lewis have handling any business dealings for Mr. Trump in Russia. Dillon has never been to Russia and does no work there, the spokesperson said. Jack Blum, a Washington tax lawyer who is an expert on white-collar financial crime and international tax evasion, called the Dillon letter “meaningless.” Blum told ABC News that real estate projects, in particular, can be structured with partners and subsidiaries so that it would be easy to shield the identity of all involved. Trump’s tax returns would not show where all the money came from to finance these projects, he said. “There’s no substance to it. The letter is just another puff of smoke,” Blum said. “It has no meaning at all. It’s just another way to not answer the question.”
  18. A lot harder to govern ...

    Republicans are experts at all things opposition including being the opposition party - governing, not so much
  19. Purges? 46 federal prosecutors ordered to resign.

    Why was the President trying to call him? And why is Mr. Bahrara making such a show of being fired? Guns. Perhaps Trump was concerned that his end of the swamp was about to be drained? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/elijah-cummings-preet-bharara_us_58c55fdfe4b0ed71826d3414?pnzoqd8fzxk98jjor& Rep. Elijah Cummings Suggests Trump May Have Fired Preet Bharara To Block Investigation A group of ethics watchdogs recently asked the U.S. attorney to investigate Trump. By Amanda Terkel WASHINGTON ― Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.), the ranking member of the House Oversight Committee, questioned on Sunday President Donald Trump’s motives in firing U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara, suggesting that he might have been acting in his own self-interest to stop a potential corruption investigation. On Friday, the Trump administration asked 46 U.S. attorneys appointed by former President Barack Obama to resign. While it’s not unusual for presidents to put their own people in these positions, it’s normally not quite so abrupt and sudden. I did not resign. Moments ago I was fired. Being the US Attorney in SDNY will forever be the greatest honor of my professional life. — Preet Bharara (@PreetBharara) March 11, 2017 The dismissal of Bharara, who represents the powerful southern district of New York, was especially surprising, however, because in November, Trump had said he would like him to stay on. Bharara refused to submit his resignation and was therefore fired on Saturday. “Just not very long ago, the president was saying that he was going to keep the U.S. attorney there in New York. And then, suddenly, he’s, I guess, changed his mind. I’m just curious as to why that is,” Cummings said. “And certainly, there’s a lot of questions coming up as to whether Mr. Trump is – President Trump is concerned about the jurisdiction of this U.S. attorney and whether that might affect his future.” A group of ethics watchdogs sent Bharara a letter recently, asking him to investigate whether Trump’s conflicts of interest: Democracy 21, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) and the Campaign Legal Center request that you undertake an investigation to determine if the Trump Organization LLC, the Trump Organization, Inc., and any related Trump businesses based in the Southern District of New York are receiving payments and financial benefits from foreign governments that benefit President Donald Trump and that do not comply with Article I, Section 9, Clause 8 of the United States Constitution, the “Foreign Emoluments Clause.” Cummings confirmed Sunday that he believed there could be a connection between this call for an investigation and Trump’s decision to get rid of Bharara, who is known as an aggressive prosecutor. “When they asked about emoluments clause and possible violations of it and the U.S. attorney’s relationship to that, I think perhaps that had perhaps something to do with it,” Cummings said. Bharara received a call from Trump’s assistant Thursday, which he reported to the Justice Department because there are protocols in place about the contact a U.S. attorney can have with the president. He also told Trump’s assistant it would be inappropriate for him to speak directly with the president. It’s not clear if the call Thursday was about the dismissal or another matter. Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) also suggested on Twitter that there were political reasons for Trump’s removal of Bharara. Preet Bharara had authority over Trump Tower. @realDonaldTrump called him directly, breaching protocol. 24 hrs later he was asked to resign. — Elizabeth W
  20. If true, this may confirm what many have felt about Trump's Russian connections. Apparently, he has a server in Trump Tower for communicating with a Russian bank owned by a Putin insider. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_server_registered_to_the_trump_organization_communicating_with_russia.html The article is long but worth a read - a few excerpts..... Was a Trump Server Communicating With Russia? This spring, a group of computer scientists set out to determine whether hackers were interfering with the Trump campaign. They found something they weren’t expecting. In late spring, this community of malware hunters placed itself in a high state of alarm. Word arrived that Russian hackers had infiltrated the servers of the Democratic National Committee, an attack persuasively detailed by the respected cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike. The computer scientists posited a logical hypothesis, which they set out to rigorously test: If the Russians were worming their way into the DNC, they might very well be attacking other entities central to the presidential campaign, including Donald Trump’s many servers. “We wanted to help defend both campaigns, because we wanted to preserve the integrity of the election,” says one of the academics, who works at a university that asked him not to speak with reporters because of the sensitive nature of his work. In late July, one of these scientists—who asked to be referred to as Tea Leaves, a pseudonym that would protect his relationship with the networks and banks that employ him to sift their data—found what looked like malware emanating from Russia. The destination domain had Trump in its name, which of course attracted Tea Leaves’ attention. But his discovery of the data was pure happenstance—a surprising needle in a large haystack of DNS lookups on his screen. “I have an outlier here that connects to Russia in a strange way,” he wrote in his notes. He couldn’t quite figure it out at first. But what he saw was a bank in Moscow that kept irregularly pinging a server registered to the Trump Organization on Fifth Avenue. The researchers had initially stumbled in their diagnosis because of the odd configuration of Trump’s server. “I’ve never seen a server set up like that,” says Christopher Davis, who runs the cybersecurity firm HYAS InfoSec Inc. and won a FBI Director Award for Excellence for his work tracking down the authors of one of the world’s nastiest botnet attacks. “It looked weird, and it didn’t pass the sniff test.” The server was first registered to Trump’s business in 2009 and was set up to run consumer marketing campaigns. It had a history of sending mass emails on behalf of Trump-branded properties and products. Researchers were ultimately convinced that the server indeed belonged to Trump. (Click here to see the server’s registration record.) But now this capacious server handled a strangely small load of traffic, such a small load that it would be hard for a company to justify the expense and trouble it would take to maintain it. “I get more mail in a day than the server handled,” Davis says. Spectrum accounted for a relatively trivial portion of the traffic. Eighty-seven percent of the DNS lookups involved the two Alfa Bank servers. “It’s pretty clear that it’s not an open mail server,” Camp told me. “These organizations are communicating in a way designed to block other people out.” Earlier this month, the group of computer scientists passed the logs to Paul Vixie. In the world of DNS experts, there’s no higher authority. Vixie wrote central strands of the DNS code that makes the internet work. After studying the logs, he concluded, “The parties were communicating in a secretive fashion. The operative word is secretive. This is more akin to what criminal syndicates do if they are putting together a project.” Put differently, the logs suggested that Trump and Alfa had configured something like a digital hotline connecting the two entities, shutting out the rest of the world, and designed to obscure its own existence. Over the summer, the scientists observed the communications trail from a distance. Tea Leaves and his colleagues plotted the data from the logs on a timeline. What it illustrated was suggestive: The conversation between the Trump and Alfa servers appeared to follow the contours of political happenings in the United States. “At election-related moments, the traffic peaked,” according to Camp. There were considerably more DNS lookups, for instance, during the two conventions.
  21. "Oh Bozhe" Trumpski's secret russian server!

    What is interesting is that Spectrum is owned by Dick DeVos - name sound sound familiar...husband of.........? The latest http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/09/politics/fbi-investigation-continues-into-odd-computer-link-between-russian-bank-and-trump-organization/index.html
  22. Vault 7 released by Wikileaks ...

    Please not Weetabix.......I'm not sure I could take that!
  23. Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone

    Bit by bit contents of the dossier is being confirmed http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/10/politics/russia-dossier-update/index.html Unless of course you ask the Russians........... or Trump (is there a difference?) https://www.rt.com/usa/373708-trump-us-russian-dossier-fake/
  24. Trump accuses Obama of tapping his phone

    For reference http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=177976&hl=%2Btrump+%2Btower+%2Bservers
  25. Open Season on Russian Diplomats

    It's just Trump's buddy Putin's way of hiding evidence. Didn't he arrest three of the cybersecurity folks reported to have been instrumental in diddling the election - one of them dragged out of a meeting with a bag on his head? https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/world/europe/sergei-mikhailov-russian-cybercrimes-agent-arrested.html?_r=0