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    VOR AUCTION - OPPORTUNITIES LOST & STILL THERE?

    They have refused to date to even comment upon what remains rumours in the public domain. So yeah pretty stupid considering no more world stopovers outside Europe left and the finish line is on the horizon.
  2. With a two week breather now in Newport I thought this thread and discussion might help keep interest afloat. With the owners of the VOR, being Volvo Cars (Zhejiang Geely Holding Group a Chinese Private Co) and Volvo Commercial/Other (AB Volvo a Swedish Public Co) looking to offload the VOR subject to interest, what are the mistakes or opportunities lost (or maybe still there) since Volvo took it over from Whitbread in 2001? The reason for looking to identify those is to try and acertain why it has struggled to remain relevant since 2001 when alternative RTW formats have flourished and also give some indicator to its commercial value today and asertain if it indeed has a future? To kick discussion off my two quick headliners are; 1. Slow to Adopt to Change and Recognise Competitor Self Interest. While this example pre-dated Volvo ownership of the race, they were the one writing largest cheques at the time. That example was not biting the bullet and persevering with a mixed class format in the 93/94 Edition putting Maxi's and the W60 up against each other. That simply sent a mixed message to how the Race Organiser valued sponsors and that carried over into subsequent editions when it became a single class event. Behind that is an argument this was done solely to appease the demands of Grant Dalton having the backing for a Maxi. 2. Put Too Much Value on Stopover Income/Single Entry Encouragement. The best example of this is the Abu Dhabi stopover introduction in 2012 where the entire course was put on its ear, arguably losing many fans, even those regarded as "rusted on". The rediculous race on top of a freighter was a another subset of that decision. After two goes, and then winning the title in the 2014/15 edition using the new OD VO65, that replaced the V70, Abu Dhabi simply walked away from the VOR despite the capital invested in accommodating their demands. If Dongfeng win this edition do we see a repeat of that? Is the lesson one that more effort be applied to securing long term stopover commitments, even though they don't necessarily field a team, to preserve RTW course integrity? Australia being in and out since the races inception, yet fundamental to a decent race course incorporating the entire SO is one example. Another is the bizzare decision of NZ getting just a 48 hour pitstop (Wellington) in 2006.
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    VOR Leg 9 Newport to Cardiff

    Mate that is hilarious. BTW don't tell Shang you buried a Dong T-Shirt. The poor bugger is currently struggling to keep the "Telefonica Itajai 2/1 Hoodoo" to the back of his mind. It is getting worse as exactly like Telefonica, the Dong could only manage 4th over the line at the US stopover. For superstitious Yellow fans, the boat who crossed 2nd was Groupama, the eventual winner of the 2011/22 edition. The tea leaves never lie.
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    VOR Leg 9 Newport to Cardiff

    Yes I'm really enamoured with the Charlie Enright view on RTW racing. At the presser when he said "the Scoreboard didn't really represent where they are" he was dead right, Vestas should be stone motherless last, not sitting just above or below on points, teams who have finished all legs.
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    VOR AUCTION - OPPORTUNITIES LOST & STILL THERE?

    Actually while history is good guide there are many reasons rich privates won't bite. All have been noted by myself and others up thread. You actually raise a good point in passing that accords with the thread title. One of the optimum times to attract and canvas sponsor interest for future editions is during the event while it is underway. The VOR roadshow attracts at stopovers in total around 70,000 corporate guests. That is a big school of fish in varying sizes. With no indicative timetable, boat, or program and no idea who actually will be running or owning the show, hasn't that been an opportunity lost. It must rank highly in the 2018 "Commercial In Goal" awards.
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    VOR AUCTION - OPPORTUNITIES LOST & STILL THERE?

    ^^^ This. If the race wants to be at the cutting edge of design evolution and be a tough platform then after 60/65' forget it with current design technology and that on the horizon. Possibly the only interest in watching half a dozen low tech Comanches (which originally they thought could get some foil RM happening on but couldn't) go round the world would be to see how much money they could collectively throw out the back per mile. A rich private or corporate sponsor nightmare.
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    VOR Leg 9 Newport to Cardiff

    Couldn't agree more but actually for a different reason. Firstly I think the sailing teams like it for the fact it is relatively small, friendly and itimate, as it doesn't involve a haulout is a good place to rest and prepare for a long sprint after a long equatorial leg. It also has some top end sailing history which adds some authenticity as a stopover. However commercialy for the race itself (not the Newport Chamber of Commerce) it is a complete dud, despite all the hype. In terms of TV publicity value afforded the Race the USA sits at the bottom of the ladder and in Online News publicity value while closer to the top, is much the same as smaller individual Euro countries and one-third that of Chinas. These are pretty damming media statistics for the world's largest single economy. Therefore there is a lot riding on selecting a USA stopover to help turn these media numbers around. It also helps sailing as a sport in the US. Newport is not it. It has lowest Village traffic than any stopover. Many stopovers generate in just one day nearly half of Newport's total over two weeks. This edition with the wet weather will be even worse. The RO if they are serious about getting more out of the US market either in penetration for sponsors and or as a source for fresh sponsorship dollars, an alternative stopover has to be seriously considered. That could range between the warmer climes of Florida or larger east coast population centres of Maryland (Annapolis) or even New York. While they doing that the length of this leg also has to be considered if it is to be a double pointer for scoreboard reasons. Other than water temperature and potential wind speeds, it has very little in common with other double pointers.
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    VOR Leg 9 Newport to Cardiff

    These short and snappy, sometimes offbeat vids are great..bit like Grandmas Xmas stocking fillers.
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    VOR Leg 9 Newport to Cardiff

    The top 3 or 4 are so closely matched now the first thought on quick lead changes is a mistake or incident.
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    VOR Leg 9 Newport to Cardiff

    If you had to pick a leg to be rotated out of, this is it. They are going to be stuffed at the other end.
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    VOR Leg 9 Newport to Cardiff

    Actually if you recall the skippers presser, Bouwe indicated with the words "cut and paste" being necessary sometimes when optimising mode settings.
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    VOR Leg 9 Newport to Cardiff

    The point shortly coming up where navigators looking ahead go "fuck why are they taking that line"
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    VOR AUCTION - OPPORTUNITIES LOST & STILL THERE?

    Not what he said...only two tomato sticks. He didn't say anything about the race being funded by rich privates (who have ignored it since its inception). If the race is on hold, there is no boat or schedule and no one knows who will own it, who would those discussions have been between? I'm sorry but the concept the race will be saved by rich privates in Open 80 footers simply doesn't hold water.
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    VOR Leg 9 Newport to Cardiff

    Can't see anyone in Top 4 doing a breakaway except maybe this mob.
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    VOR Leg 9 Newport to Cardiff

    Very black but couldn't resist a peak ...the tracker has a lot of familiarity about it.
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    VOR Leg 9 Newport to Cardiff

    A Team hard not to embrace if you haven't already adopted one to date.
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    VOR AUCTION - OPPORTUNITIES LOST & STILL THERE?

    Paps the classic mistake and happy birthday. Firstly the thought that the more mainstream a sport is the better it fits a commercial model. In a global environment that thought simply doesn't hold water. For instance a mainstream sport in one country is literally non existent in another. Some of the most obscure sports imaginable are professional to the extreme in some countries. Secondly until someone invents a RTW crewed raceboat that has the same cost of entry as say a racing bicycle, pair of football boots or tennis racket, then it will always be a sport that will require big licks of money. The source of that money has always and will always have a commercial flavour attached to it. The only alternative is Santa Claus will take it up and all problems will be solved.
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    VOR AUCTION - OPPORTUNITIES LOST & STILL THERE?

    The race has been standing at the top of Everest for years, stepping back is suicide, stepping forward with plans of a parachute, but preferably wings offers up some chance of survival. Time to find a new way up the same mountain. Standing still any longer your nuts get frozen off.
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    VOR AUCTION - OPPORTUNITIES LOST & STILL THERE?

    The classic mistake of thinking RTW crewed history is overturned in a nano second of race boat development and acceptance of everything emanates from a "top down" approach. Then again maybe you drive a Ferrari F1 to and from work, think Tesla's are for hairdressers and no one has told you multis got kicked to the kerb in AC where they race for 60 minutes at best in sight of land.
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    VOR Leg 9 Newport to Cardiff

    Apologies be dammed Renn, you have to kiss that pillow now and again.
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    VOR Leg 9 Newport to Cardiff

    Well done stief...one of the classics. Mark does pick up on some good stuff. Don't know too many naviguesers who are also pro writers across more than one genre.
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    VOR AUCTION - OPPORTUNITIES LOST & STILL THERE?

    His tomato stick open rule opinion was made tongue in cheek and fuelled by a wallet no longer having moths in it.
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    VOR Leg 9 Newport to Cardiff

    On board Scally for the In Port
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    VOR Leg 9 Newport to Cardiff

    Nico very circumspect about their prospects and offering up a different slant to some others who have been suggesting there is still a little bit left on the table in terms of effort. Maybe some wily old fox coming through in front of a microphone.
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    VOR Leg 9 Newport to Cardiff

    Hi brother. Over 60 and only around 8 to go over 3 short legs. This is now pin the ears back and leave nothing in the tank time. That probably raises the prospect of some carnage occuring on this leg.