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    Solomon's, MD
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    Racing, crusing, nerdy engineering stuff, and my lovely wife/bow girl! Check out our boat on FB (www.facebook.com/shortbussailing)!

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  1. Superhawkathan

    Henderson 30?

    Eerie what you can't quite see is the windward runner got caught on the leeward side of the boom during the gybe.... so no cranking it on, no easing the main as the runner won't let it go out any more and the vang was off.... think the only solution was to have more pork chops at the crew dinner the night before!!!
  2. Superhawkathan

    Henderson 30?

    We have used it multiple times and even sailed with a #4 (basically a storm jib). The boat was pretty well balanced going upwind in 30 - 35 kts (granted still wasn't the most fun)... we don't reef often but in some distance races where there is going to be a big upwind slog in heavy breeze putting a reef on the main will make the boat a bit of a better ride and extend the life of the main a bit more than just flogging it to hell.
  3. Superhawkathan

    Henderson 30?

    You're right, what is missing in the picture was the S shaped forestay that was wiggling in the wind and the 2 foot mast pumping when she came back up on the feet (also the windward runner was hooked on the otherside of the boom, probably one of our worst gybes of the regatta besides the previous one to this where we whipped out with the kite up and pulled the bounty of the bay out of the water with it...). I was thinking the whole time, this is it this is when the mast goes pop, but nope just turned back to weather got the jib down, corrected the runner and shot back into the harbor doing 10 kts, like nothing happened.... Everyone at the party that night was like, "How did you guys not drop the rig?"
  4. Superhawkathan

    Henderson 30?

    Don't have any info on the one in Dana Point, but the one up in Seattle did the 2012 Pac Cup... Offshore in these boats would be fun but also exhausting. Talking with the crew and skipper if you were off watch you were bailing water and if you were on watch you were just trying to keep the boat ripping on its feet. These boats a just very wet boats, big hole in the bow for the sprit and the v-hatch (which make stepping the mast super easy) allow for alot of water ingress. Also with newer stability requirements the boat might not qualify for doing the race without some mods. Our hendo was officially measured in ORR, IRC and ORC and when looking at some of the offshore stability index requirements our boat falls just under them. As far as good boats, I think most owners on this forum will agree they are great boats. A pre 2000's sport boat that is still able to compete with all the new ones on the market. Only thing that I would say negative about the boat is the runners, they are both a blessing and can be a curse. As I have mentioned above the stuff we have done to this boat and the fact that we haven't had any big breakages really is a testament to the boat itself.
  5. Superhawkathan

    Henderson 30?

    Well status update... after sailing the first Screwpile Lighthouse Challenge that I can remember with wind... well lost of wind (avg 15-25 kts), the adjustment we made to the bearings seems to be working. Free play is ever so minimal and the rudder didn't lock up with the kite up in the big breeze... only issue we seemed to have was really nothing to do with the bearings and everything with the runners. Generally we are pretty good and got a good system down, but seemed that every once and awhile during the regatta we would catch the runner and have a great wipe-out! I am really surprised we didn't drop the rig or break something during this weekend, only damage was a little 3 inch tear in the #3 at the foot. These boats I tell ya can take a beating and keep on ticking... The picture below is from some of our shenanigans this last weekend!!!
  6. Superhawkathan

    Henderson 30?

    Well just finished trying to get the freeplay out of the cassette. I used some filler to level and smooth the existing holes, then applied 2 strips of aluminum tape to the inner cassette and one strip to the outter. Also replaced all bearings with 3/8” torlon bearings. As of right now there is virtually no lateral or vertical freeplay, only time will tell how this hold up... Cheers
  7. Superhawkathan

    Henderson 30?

    Did you guys just order everything off the Melges 32 website? What all was needed (new top and bottom bearings, new rudder envelope, new tiller, and new rudder)? Was it a pretty straight change out or did you need to modify the "rudder hole"?
  8. Superhawkathan

    Henderson 30?

    Aperson, how did you go about doing this? I was thinking of doing something like you just mentioned, but figured it could end up getting screwed up pretty easily. Did you just mix up the epoxy and then take like a spatula and run around the edge where the bearings roll against?
  9. Superhawkathan

    Henderson 30?

    Boat's in the water done a few club races already, got to try out our new 1.5 kite this last weekend. She is prudy and crispy.... still smells like the loft haha. Plan to take the boat apart this weekend and head to a little shin dig down in VA at the beginning of June. Eerie have you change out your rudder cassette bearings at all? I'm starting to get some free play in mine maybe about a 16th of a inch and trying to figure out how this can be fixed without doing a big mod costly mod to swap out the entire system for a Melges 32 setup like Savage did to his years ago. Cheers,
  10. Superhawkathan

    Henderson 30?

    Any new news from any of the hendo owners?
  11. Superhawkathan

    Henderson 30?

    The hendo is a great 30 footer, the boat you are currently looking at is the one that convinced us to buy one! As with any 20+ year old sport boat there will be some little things here and there, but so far we have very little issues with ours and we have been racing it hard for the last 3 years in conditions from 0 - 40 kts... (The upwind above 30 kts is not the most fun... that's why its good to be the driver, 6 people in front of you to block the water). Your concern about the water in the boat... the boat is a very wet boat as there are alot of holes in it. Some of it can simply be fixed by re-bedding the hardware as we have done, but the big culprit is around the mast and the V-hatch.... you're just bound to get water into the interior. We will routinely take about a half 5 gallon bucket of water out of it a week here on the east coast as it is super humid in the summer and we only have some damp raid containers in the boat (don't worry sails are not kept on the boat, if they were we would be running a dehumidifier). Just something we have added to the pre-race routine. As Eerie mentioned that is all monolithic glass on the hull to deck joint as well as below most hardware locations, ours has the same thing going on there. Since the class is not very active anymore we have changed our sails quite a bit from the class size, increased the main size a bit (which allowed us to take some of the rake of the mast out) and decreased the A2 size by about 100 sqft or so. We are currently looking at potentially adding a A1.5 to the setup as the A2 is not the best reacher. The boat seems pretty well balanced in a blow now and very maintainable on plain (A5 is our heavy weather kite in 22+). The older designed kites just seemed to be to big for us to really get the boat dialed in. Super happy with how the boat is running now! We also pinned (no longer wiggles back and fourth) the sprit to center as it gave us 3 sec a mile back on our rating, we actually like this setup now as it makes extending and retracting the pole much simpler. We also added a kite take down system that helps get the big kite back in the boat in about 8-10 seconds from full up to put away rounding the mark. All these setups allowed us to be very competitive in the ORC system. I will say pay the extra coin and get the international cert. We had a club cert for KWRW and an international cert for CRW, we went from 618 GPH to 632 GPH or something close to that just because of the actual measurements. Club assumes you have the best everything like righting moment, etc. If you look at the ORC sport class from CRW 2017 you can see the hendo is competitive with even the new sport boats! Our target weight that I would recommend trying to sail at is around 1250ish lbs. For us this means 8 up and we have found that even in the light with 8 on the boat we are still much quicker than most of our class. I'm sure that you read through this thread the boat likes the weight to keep on its feet. Also in planning condition downwind crew should be hiking behind the driver is possible, that helps a ton. All that to say if you like the boat and don't mind a little elbow grease to clean it up, and maybe tighten some bolts, they are great boats!!! I'll be happy as any other to share any info as other have with me, just let me know! Cheers
  12. Superhawkathan

    Henderson 30?

    Happy New Year to you all as well!!! Anyone got their Hendo signed up for some away regattas?
  13. Superhawkathan

    Henderson 30?

    I thought I heard that if you reach out to SOCA they might have some still laying around the shop, but that was just something I heard through the grape vine.
  14. Superhawkathan

    Henderson 30?

    That would be cool to see. Did they just move the chain plates aft or did they move them out to the shear and aft as well? Just in case anyone else out there in Hendo world cares, but we have been working pretty hard with Quantum on updating and redesigning the hendo sail plan. The kite has changed shape and size along with the main and so far we are liking the way the boat feels and moves. Our previous kites were really a bit to large and were a pain to qybe in big air and wouldn't set right in the lighter air. The main, though big, wasn't quite big enough to compensate for being at the low range of the #3 or the upper range of the #1 (we don't have a #2 since most of our racing is not in the 13-16 kts wind range). It was also just old and since it needed to be replaced we worked hard to look at the current sport boats on the market and see how they are being setup and what is and isn't working. The only down side to the new main is that we had to go to black battens to support and stiffen up the leach, and we all know that when you do that the cost goes up! Just throwing this out there in-case you are looking at changing up your sail plan or refreshing it, I am more than willing to suggest our changes. Cheers,
  15. It shouldn't be, according to all the ORC talking. "Science-based, transparent, etc." Serious question: How do you game a system like this? We know the guy who won the Euros had an actual cheater boat now that that protest has been heard. Is Tangent doing the same thing, or simply lucky they have a boat that rates so well across so many rules? Clean, You asked the question so I feel like I need to pipe in with my observations. So far with the Bus's experience with ORC has been a mixed one, pretty much got it handed to us in Key West (we were the smallest/lightest boat and had a club cert) and didn't do to bad in Charleston (in a class of light displacement and only a difference in length of 6' between all boats and had an international cert). First off having the boat officially measured helped out on the rating quite a bit (now this is not gaming the system unless you intentionally hide weight or tape batteries to the top of the rig for example). When ORC computes the club cert it assumes the best of everything, like for example an amazing righting moment. I noticed that this really hurt our boat and once we were measured it was amazing the difference in assumed righting moment within the VPP. We have head about what happened at the Euros and I think they tried to cheat the system pretty well, but besides actually moding the boats to have more displacement when measured and not when racing, I think there is something you could do. I took some time to play around with creating trial cert's via the OCR website prior to Key Wet and besides changing standard things like sail areas, the thing that caught be by surprise was how the rating changed when you manipulate crew weight. My initial thought was that more crew weight = more weight = slower boat, well after further review it looks like the VPP can differentiate between the time sailing to weather and sailing downwind. When crew weight is increased your righting moment increases thereby making you faster upwind, you do see a hit downwind, but the computer knows that you are spending more time going upwind than downwind (for us in 20kts its about 60% upwind and 30% downwind). This makes your rating worse (lower number) the more crew weight you add. So assuming you leave your cert at the default crew weight (on our boat it assumes 1119lbs, Charleston cert we claimed 1250lbs, Key West cert we claimed 1350lbs), but sail with actually more weight on the rail or "forget to claim the weight you're sailing at", you would be gaming the system. I noted a difference that the rating dropped by about 4-5 seconds a mile by just adding 200 lbs. Now this might only be a larger issue on boats of lighter displacement as weight placement is more critical than on a big cruiser/racer, but it is still a difference. In close handicap racing like we had in ORC C in Chucktown this could make a difference where a boat comes out. This was just once case study that I did, so take that for what it is worth. I'm sure that if ORC keeps spreading and they are able to have a NA's or even a Worlds here in the next 2 - 3 years (per Dobbs at a ORC round table held at Charleston Race Week) there would be weigh-ins and boat checks to ensure that everyone is sailing to what is claimed on their cert. As of this moment I'm leaning more to ORC than PHRF and I say that because it takes out human bias. Its funny to me how a Hendo in the PNW rates 54 then I bring it to the Chesapeake Bay and it all of a sudden rates 42. All I can say is that physics are physics, they work where ever you are on the planet, not more so in one area than the other. Additionally both rating systems assume the same thing, well sailed, clean bottom, good sails; however PHRF will say "we are changing your rating because so and so a long time ago kicked some ass and the boat wasn't rated correctly" or that "you have been out-sailing everyone for the past couple of years (not us by the way) and your rating needs to be adjusted". Anyway I digress.... The one down fall to ORC is cost. Club cert will run you around $100, International cert is around $8-$10 a foot but you also have to get measured and that's whatever the measurer will charge you. This will then turn into a game of who pays more, but once measured you don't have to do it again unless you mod something. You can run trial certs all day for about 10 bucks a pop and see what will happen to your rating if you change this or that; rather than waiting for a group of people to get in a room once every 3-4 months, dawn there robes, recite their chants, light their candles, and pay their tribute to the rating gods. Cheers PS - Whoever wants to win a trophy by cheating, you're a bit of a douche bag!