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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. I grew up racing offshore on 40 foot+ sailboats with my parents and my friends as crew, 50% which were girls. I currently race on a 43 footer with 60-70% of the crew being women. While unusual, my experience is that many other boats have more than a token woman aboard. I take exception to the quote "Sometimes, when I hear the old guard chatting, I despair for the future of sailing. Nothing new is good, and women mere ornaments." First, I have never heard this kind of talk or sentiment expressed by anyone I race with or compete against in my 50 years of sailing. This sounds too much like the kind of grievance politics that seems to be running rampant in academia today. While I would agree it would be ideal to see more women participating in sailing today, I cannot believe the reason is that boys or men are bullying girls and women to stay away. I for one know having women aboard improves the overall performance of the boat and and happiness of the crew. All of the women I sail with are accomplished sailors with just as much experience and skills as the men.
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  3. Anybody seen specific race results on handicap?
  4. FU Editor! PHRF saved the world from IOR when it wanted to be saved. Now, 30 years later, you ask any rating rule to equilibrate a Melges 32 with a Pearson 30 and you'll get the same result: Failure: In 1980, almost every race boag enerated a surfable wake with 25 knots breeze downwind. Now, a Melges 32 sails nearly 25 knots in 25 knots, while the Pearson 30 surfs to 7 knots, able to tow a wake boarder behind it. Let's stop eating our own and face the music. PHRF is the worst handicap sysytem out there, except for all the rest. Make racing fun again: Ban windward leeward racing for one year, start races at 1pm and stop at 4:30. Make post-race parties Great Again! Penalize carbon sails and give credit for Dacron. Give rating credits for family crews. Subsidize FUN, penalize winning is everything. Respect the Tradition of cruiser racers. Promote destination races with post race raft ups and sleeping aboard. Introudce yourself to you fellow competitors...for the first time. Ditch the Opti and promote crewed junior sailing so crewing becomes Great again. Over and out
  5. The IOR Rule did promote some distorted and less than ideal hull shapes. But it produced very close racing between different boats, which I believe is the ultimate measure of a handicap rule's success. The current lack of consensus behind one rule has significantly contributed ito the systemic decline in handicap sailboat racing. The solution? Both ORR and IRC are reasnably effective at handicapping differing boats. Pick one of them, warts and all, and promote the hell out of it globally.
  6. Agreed. I raced on a J44 as recently as 2015. They are too heavy and very sluggish in light air. Also were poorly constructed form the get go.
  7. Obit from LA Times- http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/latimes/obituary.aspx?pid=181698314
  8. Thanks How many crew did you have?
  9. Thanks. Two other questions. Does rig support masthead assume tricks? Second does boat have hydraulicslly adjustable maststeps? Thanks
  10. Thanks!
  11. I'm thinking of buying an X 35 in Europe and shipping it back to the States to race. Thoughts from someone who has raced the boat in handicap events would be apppreciated
  12. I would suggest that all aspects of sailboat racing are in decline. Why? Junior training. It can't be anything else. Every fleet of one design and offshore boats are dominated by older folks. So where is the younger generation? Burned out. They were taught only to win, like every other school age sport. They were never nurtured to love the sport. They sailed alone. So they never socialized on the water. Worse, they never learned to crew and probably don't like the idea. Their sailing days were always structured and corralled, so they never got to sail independently, which us older sailors all got to do growing up. For me, sailing in an unstructured way to just enjoy the act of sailing was and is cherished. Who's to blame? Helicopter parents and sailing programs. They unwittingly conspired to dumb down instruction to a winner take all mentality with tightly controlled curriculums that over-emphasized kids' safety while suffocating kids' fun. Sailing is supposed to be an adventure, not a job. We need to start over. Get parents to sign liability waivers so sailing programs can share the adventure with their students. Play games. Go on long sailing field trips. Learn seamanship. Put beginners in boats together and keep them there. Take them out on big boats early and often. Keep the parents off the water.
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  14. How often have you met women that enjoy or even tolerate getting dirty while changing the engine oil or winterizing the engine? How many women have you met that will tolerate hours of sanding/painting/waxing the hull of a 25-30 foot boat? Replacing the joker valve in the toilet? For sure they exist, and I've met a few but they are somewhat rare. "Ownership" entails a lot of tasks that many women simply do not want to take on. Hell, I don't even "enjoy" most of these tasks. I tolerate them because the reward of what sailing gives me is worth it. The reward of sleeping aboard a boat that is a little less of a shitbox is worth it. Look, I'm just not buying the line anymore that sailing is so sexist that women can't make inroads. This is the decade of female empowerment, the 21st century. A woman's dollar is just as valued as a man's at the brokerage. If a woman wants to buy and sail a boat, no one is going to stop her. If a woman wants to go into a partnership with a few of her friends on a boat, no one is going to stop them. Marinas are constantly waging the battle against empty slips. No marina in its right mind would turn a female owner away. Are there bastions of sexism? Yes, they're usually certain clubs which are easy to avoid. A woman owning a pocket cruiser at a local marina might deal with the occasional sexist old phart making comments as she walks by, or while she's working topside on her boat but that's also easily dealt with. The US isn't Afghanistan, for crying out loud. US women are strong enough and smart enough to put assholes like these in their places. Truth be told, I wish more of them would. As a male, I grew up in the 1970s ocean racing on a 44 footer with 50% women crew. My mom came every race making it "safe" for girls to come along. I have continued the trend and race with 50% women crew today. I wouldn't go offshore without them. They're fun, sail hard, add perspective, take any and all abuse without fear of sexist repercussions and passionately enjoy it. I know many other boats with substantial woman crewmembers who fell like I do.
  15. Fantastic parallel to conventional wisdom describing sailing's decline. However I believe deeply in the following reasons for decline: Junior Sailing's winning is everything approach goes off the rails early and often. 8 year olds by themselves obviously don't socialize, get scared and never learn how to crew. On top of that, they're browbeaten into winning. No engendering any love for the sport- let's get winning out there, or else! Professionalism at all levels is driving out fun-loving and competent amateurs, the backbone of the sport. When I did Key West Race Week in the late 1980s, with nearly thirty 40 footers on the line, you could count all the pros on one hand. Most of the boats were skippered and crewed by their owners and friends. You could even live aboard and save a lot of dollars! Handicap systems managed by elite and authoritarian committees who play favorites and bully newbies. PHRF is a fine idea managed objectively by fair minded individuals. Like politicians, term limits are necessary Proliferation of the latest and greatest one design and offshore boats while the used sailboat market collapses from the weight of well built, long lasting, good boats no one wants. Yacht clubs torn between the majority who dislike racing and want to build swimming pools and subsidize gourmet restaurants while what's left of racing has to be financially self sufficient.