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  1. Marblehead to Halifax 2017

    So the weather models are very divergent for winds next Monday and Tuesday in the Gulf of Maine. European Model shows front gets through race course Monday leading to light SW-W-NW and even N-NE winds. GFS model shows moderate SW winds . Thoughts?
  2. Sail like a Girl

    I grew up racing offshore on 40 foot+ sailboats with my parents and my friends as crew, 50% which were girls. I currently race on a 43 footer with 60-70% of the crew being women. While unusual, my experience is that many other boats have more than a token woman aboard. I take exception to the quote "Sometimes, when I hear the old guard chatting, I despair for the future of sailing. Nothing new is good, and women mere ornaments." First, I have never heard this kind of talk or sentiment expressed by anyone I race with or compete against in my 50 years of sailing. This sounds too much like the kind of grievance politics that seems to be running rampant in academia today. While I would agree it would be ideal to see more women participating in sailing today, I cannot believe the reason is that boys or men are bullying girls and women to stay away. I for one know having women aboard improves the overall performance of the boat and and happiness of the crew. All of the women I sail with are accomplished sailors with just as much experience and skills as the men.
  3. that time of the month

    +1
  4. Club Swan 50

    Anybody seen specific race results on handicap?
  5. that time of the month

    FU Editor! PHRF saved the world from IOR when it wanted to be saved. Now, 30 years later, you ask any rating rule to equilibrate a Melges 32 with a Pearson 30 and you'll get the same result: Failure: In 1980, almost every race boag enerated a surfable wake with 25 knots breeze downwind. Now, a Melges 32 sails nearly 25 knots in 25 knots, while the Pearson 30 surfs to 7 knots, able to tow a wake boarder behind it. Let's stop eating our own and face the music. PHRF is the worst handicap sysytem out there, except for all the rest. Make racing fun again: Ban windward leeward racing for one year, start races at 1pm and stop at 4:30. Make post-race parties Great Again! Penalize carbon sails and give credit for Dacron. Give rating credits for family crews. Subsidize FUN, penalize winning is everything. Respect the Tradition of cruiser racers. Promote destination races with post race raft ups and sleeping aboard. Introudce yourself to you fellow competitors...for the first time. Ditch the Opti and promote crewed junior sailing so crewing becomes Great again. Over and out
  6. IOR presentation, UK.

    The IOR Rule did promote some distorted and less than ideal hull shapes. But it produced very close racing between different boats, which I believe is the ultimate measure of a handicap rule's success. The current lack of consensus behind one rule has significantly contributed ito the systemic decline in handicap sailboat racing. The solution? Both ORR and IRC are reasnably effective at handicapping differing boats. Pick one of them, warts and all, and promote the hell out of it globally.
  7. Agreed. I raced on a J44 as recently as 2015. They are too heavy and very sluggish in light air. Also were poorly constructed form the get go.
  8. Jim Kilroy

    Obit from LA Times- http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/latimes/obituary.aspx?pid=181698314
  9. x 35

    Thanks How many crew did you have?
  10. x 35

    Thanks. Two other questions. Does rig support masthead assume tricks? Second does boat have hydraulicslly adjustable maststeps? Thanks
  11. x 35

    Thanks!
  12. x 35

    I'm thinking of buying an X 35 in Europe and shipping it back to the States to race. Thoughts from someone who has raced the boat in handicap events would be apppreciated
  13. Where Did All the Sailors Go?

    I would suggest that all aspects of sailboat racing are in decline. Why? Junior training. It can't be anything else. Every fleet of one design and offshore boats are dominated by older folks. So where is the younger generation? Burned out. They were taught only to win, like every other school age sport. They were never nurtured to love the sport. They sailed alone. So they never socialized on the water. Worse, they never learned to crew and probably don't like the idea. Their sailing days were always structured and corralled, so they never got to sail independently, which us older sailors all got to do growing up. For me, sailing in an unstructured way to just enjoy the act of sailing was and is cherished. Who's to blame? Helicopter parents and sailing programs. They unwittingly conspired to dumb down instruction to a winner take all mentality with tightly controlled curriculums that over-emphasized kids' safety while suffocating kids' fun. Sailing is supposed to be an adventure, not a job. We need to start over. Get parents to sign liability waivers so sailing programs can share the adventure with their students. Play games. Go on long sailing field trips. Learn seamanship. Put beginners in boats together and keep them there. Take them out on big boats early and often. Keep the parents off the water.
  14. Cheap light wind PHRF machine..

    Evelyn 25
  15. golf sucks, so does sailing

    How often have you met women that enjoy or even tolerate getting dirty while changing the engine oil or winterizing the engine? How many women have you met that will tolerate hours of sanding/painting/waxing the hull of a 25-30 foot boat? Replacing the joker valve in the toilet? For sure they exist, and I've met a few but they are somewhat rare. "Ownership" entails a lot of tasks that many women simply do not want to take on. Hell, I don't even "enjoy" most of these tasks. I tolerate them because the reward of what sailing gives me is worth it. The reward of sleeping aboard a boat that is a little less of a shitbox is worth it. Look, I'm just not buying the line anymore that sailing is so sexist that women can't make inroads. This is the decade of female empowerment, the 21st century. A woman's dollar is just as valued as a man's at the brokerage. If a woman wants to buy and sail a boat, no one is going to stop her. If a woman wants to go into a partnership with a few of her friends on a boat, no one is going to stop them. Marinas are constantly waging the battle against empty slips. No marina in its right mind would turn a female owner away. Are there bastions of sexism? Yes, they're usually certain clubs which are easy to avoid. A woman owning a pocket cruiser at a local marina might deal with the occasional sexist old phart making comments as she walks by, or while she's working topside on her boat but that's also easily dealt with. The US isn't Afghanistan, for crying out loud. US women are strong enough and smart enough to put assholes like these in their places. Truth be told, I wish more of them would. As a male, I grew up in the 1970s ocean racing on a 44 footer with 50% women crew. My mom came every race making it "safe" for girls to come along. I have continued the trend and race with 50% women crew today. I wouldn't go offshore without them. They're fun, sail hard, add perspective, take any and all abuse without fear of sexist repercussions and passionately enjoy it. I know many other boats with substantial woman crewmembers who fell like I do.