JeronimoII

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  1. JeronimoII

    How about a The Ocean Race thread?

    nope. From Den Haag they are going to cross France through the rivers. Beautiful setting. The sponsors are going to love it. Great pics, too, of the IMOCAs passing by the Eiffel Tower
  2. JeronimoII

    How about a The Ocean Race thread?

    Italy confirmed as venue for the first time. Genoa have been just announced as the host of the final leg for the TOR. Stricking news.
  3. JeronimoII

    How about a The Ocean Race thread?

    The old Whitbread and its adventure aura is definitely gone... this is just becoming a commercial parade like the Clipper. A Cabo Verde stop makes no sense, only for the race itself to earn some euros.
  4. JeronimoII

    How about a The Ocean Race thread?

    just came across this logo... from the distance it looks exactly like TOR... anyway, apparently good turnout and vibes at the TOR teams meeting last week. The deadline to start building new purposed-built TOR boats is slowly approaching...
  5. JeronimoII

    The Ocean Race 2021

    yeap. 2021 sounds unrealistic... or it could all end up being a VO65 only race with 2-3 IMOCAs if done then, as not many IMOCA teams look very interested in TOR. At least from the leading teams. All registered teams announced so far are looking for sponsors and without a race course, this is not an easy sell. btw, only one IMOCA raced in TOR mode at the Fastnet. Anyone with insights into how the experience was? (crowded quarters, no autopilot (is this confirmed?), foils?, etc.)
  6. JeronimoII

    How about a The Ocean Race thread?

    SS, you are always very positive, but your comment of being able to convince Dongfeng to invest 20 Mn EUR forgets that as owners of Volvo Cars they already had a large stake in the event. Surely still a steep sales challenge, but a much easier one when you have your board members praising the event at all your board meetings.
  7. JeronimoII

    How about a The Ocean Race thread?

    good to have new thread about the TOR. The VOR auction one served its purpose. I am also very sceptical about the future of the race. It has morphed from the prime crewed round the world race in technological advanced yachts, to being a corporate event for Volvo activation and now an add-on on the (crowded) IMOCA circuit. But a very expensive IMOCA race (just the stopovers make for a huge chunk of expenses) plus the changes required on the boat. Some teams mention 25 Mn EUR as budget, which is not reached by any of the current IMOCA teams. Maybe the sheer number of IMOCA boats manage to do the trick, but the old VO65 team budget of 12-15 Mn EUR proved to be very steep to sponsors forcing Volvo to finance many of the team. So a budget increase of 50-70% is surely not going to help bringing teams on board now than Volvo is gone. The small team left in Alicante must be scratching their heads. I would reduce the race to 4-5 legs max. That would help. Also clarifying its value proposition. What is the TOR and what stands it for?? (apptly they are going the sustainability path and message... but this needs to be clarified and communicated).
  8. JeronimoII

    VOR AUCTION - OPPORTUNITIES LOST & STILL THERE?

    bufff. A weak announcement show... just the new logo, one VO65 team confirmed (Portuguese backed by Mirpuri Foundation), and lots of teams working hard to be on the starting line.
  9. JeronimoII

    VOR AUCTION - OPPORTUNITIES LOST & STILL THERE?

    Alicante has renegotiated/updated their contract with the race. Main changes: - Spanish team not mandatory any more (Alicante government had to back a Spanish entry in the previos editions) - Payment of 6.5 Mn EUR for 2021-22 edition, 7 Mn EUR for 2025-26 (payment dependant on ROI (!)). http://www.expansion.com/nauta360/volvo-ocean-race/2019/01/02/5c2cabbb468aeb857a8b45dd.html
  10. JeronimoII

    VOR AUCTION - OPPORTUNITIES LOST & STILL THERE?

    The lithuanians have bought SCA. Aiming to enter next edition with her.
  11. JeronimoII

    VOR AUCTION - OPPORTUNITIES LOST & STILL THERE?

    Great find. The article is very sceptical indeed. This week according to the pre NOR the application entry period for teams is open. I wonder if someone is going to be announced. Doubtful. Only news announced in Paris is that the announcement of the new race name is postponed to 2019. RB has stated previously that the new race name was going to be known before the end of the year.
  12. JeronimoII

    VOR AUCTION - OPPORTUNITIES LOST & STILL THERE?

    no mention of Fish and the chinese fisherman?? bufff.
  13. JeronimoII

    Route du Rhum 2018

    Rail Meat, hats off. Congrats. You should be proud.
  14. JeronimoII

    VOR AUCTION - OPPORTUNITIES LOST & STILL THERE?

    well, all SailGP teams are being paid by Larry, at least for the first season. So not really a sustainable business platform. We'll see if this changes after some races. and, what has happened to the nationality rule?? the Chinese team has just two Chinese crew members (just the two grinders). anyway, back to VOR or WTF_Round_The_World_Race... they might go to China if Volvo demands so (remember Volvo is still paying the bills), but the big question if any team/sponsor will take part in 2021-22... . I also think that a postponement of 1-2 years is very likely. You require 9 months build time for a new IMOCA. No one is going to commit any money until knowing the race route, which shall be announced June 2019. With a start in October 2021, deadline to commit with 6 months training time is summer 2020. Of course, there could be some folks like Alex Thomson willing to participate with their current boat and squeeze 6 crew in there anyhow. This could save this edition, but I still don't see it.
  15. JeronimoII

    VOR AUCTION - OPPORTUNITIES LOST & STILL THERE?

    compelling to fans, yes, but no to sponsors. Remember we had one boat ready that did not compete for lack of sponsors, and some of the teams were financially backed by Volvo (mainly through attractive boat leasing terms)... OD/boatyard works only if you have a strong partner backing up the financial side of things... with Volvo pulling the plug, Atlant cannot afford OD/boatyard anymore. What strikes me as mega risky is the budget for a competitive campaign in the next race, despite using IMOCA, a proven formula. Bruno Dubois mentions numbers well above 20 Million Euros... I can't imagine any sponsor willing to commit this time of money for an event that is likely to have very small participation numbers (at least in the next edition). They should open the field to any boat above 60-70 feet and go back to rating based times for 1 or 2 editions in order to increase participation. If not, there is a big risk of not having an edition in 2021.