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  1. VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    nice wrap up, Jack, but you are missing the second Volvo, AB Volvo. Much larger than Volvo Cars and the ones pushing the race B2B envelope. Sure, with Geely, owner of Volvo Cars, also owning now 10% of AB Volvo, and Dongfeng being 45% from AB Volvo, this event has become a corporate venture for (both) Volvos. This is not the old adventure driven Whitbread that captivated our imagination. That's gone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo https://www.reuters.com/article/us-volvo-geely/chinas-geely-turns-to-volvo-trucks-in-latest-swedish-venture-idUSKBN1EL0E6
  2. Vestas 11th Hour recovery

    there are one thousand comments on that on the VOR 2017-18, VOR 2019-20 and VOR Mgmt MIA threads...
  3. VOR Management MIA maybe Dead?

    according to the report from SS on the FP, Richard Brisius appeared in China and even held a (apparently not very inspiring) speech to a large audience. Shanghai Sailor, anything worth mentioning from it? (btw, thanks for the report).
  4. Next VOR on IMOCAs?

    IMOCA (an owners association) would never agree as it destroys the value of their current fleet, which has a dynamic second hand market. But sure, VOR could decide unilaterally to comply with the IMOCA rule (or try to as close as possible). New boats costs approx. 3-4 Mn EUR...
  5. Vestas 11th Hour recovery

    we are the only ones that (still) give a shit about this race, so Volvo should better not alienated us further. Ask anyone on the street about the Volvo (besides on the stopover cities), and almost no-one knows about it. Tom Ehman has started comparing the VOR with the World Wrestling Federation, i.e. a fake race that just fulfils Volvo's objectives. It is still not late to turn things back, but time is running out. (Tom suggests that the race should be managed by an independent body).
  6. Vestas 11th Hour recovery

    it's called transparency. All our speculations and bad press started the moment there were no news.
  7. Vestas 11th Hour recovery

    great catch. I keep looking at the picture of the ship and cannot find any indication about its name. But anyhow, if correct, Vestas left HK on the day of the In-Port already. Very strange that it has taken VOR one week to inform the world. anyway, with an arrival in NZ on Feb 11th, there is definitely enough time to repair the boat for the leg to Cape Horn. (of course, if there is no exclusion zone around the Horn stopping the boats to get there... sarcasm...urg)
  8. Vestas 11th Hour recovery

    let's start a threat just on Vestas' recovery. (It is painful to dig through the leg 4 and the leg 6 threats... where did leg 5 go? hah...I know, I know... we should ask the missing VOR management). Anyway, on Vestas, any indication when did the boat leave HK? Arrival to NZ? (Are there any legal proceedings in China going on?) Timewise, it seems extremely tight to make it to the leg start on March 18th (especially when considering the need to be OD). I won't be surprised if this boat ends making it on a freighter to Brazil or even Newport.
  9. VOR Leg 6 Hong Kong to Auckland

    without Knut and Mark at the helm, who both were extremely good at getting investment approvals from the VOR board (especially Knut), I am very doubtful that Vestas is going to find the funding to repair the boat. Specially now that the SCA managers are at the helm (?) with the aim of controlling costs. Maybe a repair in slow motion and just for the Brasil-Newport leg, which is the next one that the team really needs (plus the European ones afterwards). anyhow, very annoying the radio silence.
  10. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    not paying attention lately. Apologies. So, AkzoNobel repaired their rig with external, and not allowed, help and Dongfeng the keel ram, too? No penalties nor comments on that from VOR? No protests from the other competitors? This event is definitely going down the drain. Just turning into a full Volvo PR gig. Still nice (clean the oceans...) and exciting (the submarine pics always work), but not the reason we all got to love the old Whitbread. The new twin top management is also MIA. Crazy compared to Knut and specially Mark, which used to be on the media almost every day. I won't be surprised if Volvo is trying to sell the event to someone.
  11. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    VOR has a large comms team in Melbourne... has the coverage improved? (can't watch. Heading to the slopes...)
  12. incredible damage to the Telefonica keel at the end of the video above. Did they manage to repair the boat for the Russian in-port? I can't recall. If so, incredible effort.
  13. VOR 2017-18

    anyone watched this morning "Quick Fix" on Facebook? Who was the new presenter in suit and tie?!?!?! I didn't like Nial that much, but not sure this was an improvement (difficult to say as the Quick Fix is way too short and the guy did not say anything besides "tough sailing" and join us at 13 Hours UTC....)
  14. VOR leg 3, crew changes

    well, as posted before, the replacement of Hayles has been announced by the team on their FB page. Also that Hayles is helping with the transition. (He also needs to stay in CT for the rule 69 hearing...)