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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

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  1. nice find, bucc. Good interview with Dee, confirming that she did not find the sponsors (she included the United Nations into the two foundations mix). VOR did. She was also selected as skipper by VOR (She had already discarded the possibility of being a skipper in this race). Her plan is to have the crew selected by mid August and confirmed participation at the Fastnet. Going with two portuguese (condition from Mipuri), 2-3 experienced sailors and the rest un-tested under 30s. (She claims that all under 30s with experience are already taken).
  2. Bouwe (Brunel) must be #7, and if the Germans are #8 I will eat my hat. It is extremely tough to sell a VOR sponsorship in a country without a stopover. (Of course, if Volvo foots the bill again, that is another story...). Go Dee!
  3. great to have Dee back. She is an excellent sailor and a great personality. And here we have the suspected Portuguese connection. With portuguese Millionaire Mirpuri behind and at least two Portuguese on board, the boat is likely to carry the Portugal flag. But I agree with Retired Sailor above. No way two foundations are chipping in 12 Mn EUR for a VOR campaign (+ activation), even if the Millionaire or the Lisbon stopover are paying part of it. This race is definitely doomed as a brand activation platform for corporate sponsors. For Volvo (AB and Cars) it is surely working very well. The fact that they are putting so much money into it proves it (including into the teams like this one). If one day Volvo pulls the plug, it is over...
  4. multihull tender deadline to submit proposals extended to July 31st due to "an incredible amount of interest from designers around the world" (VOR Facebook post dixit). Another go on using superlatives: "incredible", "around the world"... Strange anyhow to extend deadline...not enough people submitted or tender is not clear enough... Anyway, the more I think about this, the less it makes sense. Is the VOR an ocean race, or a travelling circus like the ACWS?!?!
  5. yes, both races are requirements, but of course, you could bend the rules as organiser as both don't count towards the real VOR. Anyhow, yes, starting to be tight. 8 teams are beginning to be unlikely. I am still counting with Bouwe, and potentially a 50/50 scandinavian squad with some of the Magenta girls. Both know the boat well, so not much need to practice. But sure, for any sponsor the time is getting tight to prepare the brand activation during the race. And without proper activation it makes no sense to participate... Turner needs to change lots of things to make this event viable. One design and keeping cost down is not working for team sponsors. Focus on the benefits...
  6. you are the best, Rudder. Thanks!
  7. anyone has a link to watch? The Robinwidget one is not working for me right now http://live.robinwidget.org/streamvideo8/sailing-vs-35th-americas-cup-2017-live-stream-1845137.html
  8. 5 teams actually. We'll have 7 or 8 teams at the end...Volvo will foot the bill if needed be... Brunel/Bouwe, maybe a portuguese, maybe a scandinavian, ...
  9. I said "most" do not return. Anyway, the three you mention not sure qualify as Dongfeng comes back due to its Volvo relation (it is partly owned by Volvo), Mapfre for financial returns due to the Spanish tax benefits (Alicante is obliged to deliver a team in its contract. The tax benefits are in place to help them fulfil this obligation). Vestas seems genuine as it has unfinished business although I suspect they are going to have a very small involvement this time around (i.e. limited activation from their side). But don't get me wrong, any reason is valid to join the race, being strengthening the business relationship with Volvo, financial gains, or unfinished business. The issue are the Puma's, Abu Dhabi, Groupama, Ericsson, Movistar/Telefonica, ABN Amro, SCA, etc. that came and went.
  10. I know, I know, and the fact that we would likely not having a race now without OD introduced in the past edition. But fact is that team sponsors are still not coming (and most are not repeating). So cost is not the issue, the value delivered is. It is time to tell the emperor he is naked. Get rid of OD!
  11. my main question to Turner is why to keep OD? It is clearly not working as team sponsors are still not coming. The technological race is lost by keeping OD. The VOR feels like a Clipper with Pros on board.
  12. can't follow the live streaming... any relevant news so far? Just heard about sustainability bla, bla, and about SUP in the villages...
  13. less than a week to go for the future boat announcement. Should we start to bet if monohull or multihull? Foiling multihull should be the way forward if this event wants to remain the top ocean crewed event, but I doubt Volvo is going to take such a bold decision, especially due to the logistics implications (shorter legs, shorter overall event, three villages on the road required, ...) not to mention safety, while already achieving its marketing goals with the VO65. btw, no further team announcements since a while. What are Bouwe and Brunel doing? Anyone knows?
  14. Conrad is nominated for sailor of the month. Let's vote for him! https://www.seahorsemagazine.com/sailor-of-the-month/vote-for-sailor-of-the-month
  15. umm. VOR is now acting as referral agency for employment. Strange press release about Sophie stating that she is looking for a job... maybe it is a just marketing trick and we should expect a follow up press release in 2-3 weeks saying that Sophie has been hired by X. We'll see. http://www.volvooceanrace.com/en/news/9212_Hands-for-hire.html