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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. I have thermoformed a lot of core. Corecell and Divinycell. There is a science to the time and temperature based on the grade, thickness and density to properly thermoform without any significant loss in properties. I say significant because what is out alternative? Not coring the tight radius isn't such a big deal as it would be in, say, the chime if a power boat. The other option is to cut and hand form around the radius. This is the most common, but leaves you with a potentially resin rich, or worse voided, radius. I've also built some fully foam cored hulls (most recently a 45ft sport fish). Bead and cove over male frames and infused skins. There were multiple different densities of core chosen throughout to handle the different loads along the keel, chine, cleats, hawsers... I'm also a fan of monolithic areas depending on what sort of penetrations will go through the hull. Bottom line, like Bob says, don't generalize cored vs non-cored. The boat was probably designed one way, engineered one way, and built somewhere in between. You have to take it on a case by case basis.
  2. My brother and I went through a bunch of Force 5s throughout the 90s. They were a great boat for what they were. More stable and more technical than the Laser was at the time. They are crazy cheap now and would be a great way to start fleets by pulling a group of friends at $300-$700 a piece. There was a bunch of infighting with the class and Weeks a while back. Not sure if that's done. Cool boats.
  3. I've had a C&C 34 for about 10 years now. It was a great boat when we were on the Chesapeake Bay. In southern South Carolina where we are now, not so much. Light air river racing is certainly no the boats forte. The boat drives on the genoa, which is very easy to trim. The single spreader rig is a telephone pole, so there's not much tuning you can really do without also trimming the baby stay. You'll need a good mainsail trimmer to get that last little bit out of the main. Without that, you'll never sail to its rating. Light air is not it's friend. Our sweet spot is like 12-14, followed by 10-12. Anything under that and it's miserable. At 13, you'll be thinking about reefing. As others have said, big breeze downwind can be a handful, but that's what that hull form does for you... Down below there's plenty of space to overnight or a long weekend for a family of 4. Tankage is adequate for most coastal use. The cockpit is comfortable for 6, but not under sail. Then its only comfortable for 4 adults and a couple of kids. Wed night racing here we run with 6 people pretty well. Longer races I would sail with 8 since the spinnaker can be a handful. Pictures of all the repairs and upgrades we've done are on Facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/MorningViewSailing/ I took the bottom down to gelcoat and only had 4 blisters. The hull is cored below the waterline and I found no wet core when I replaced through hulls and glassed over the old overboard discharge for the head. Our deck was wet and we had a pretty amazing explosion when it decided to go forward of the mast when we were blasting into a steep chop during a regatta several years ago. There's also pictures of how we repaired it and updated the running rigging to lead everything aft to rope clutches. I would take the 34 over the 33 for the interior, but the 35 over the 34 for sailing...
  4. Wait. So does this mean we can finally have the Sailing Amarchy World Championships of the World?
  5. Zebra - That's the rig it's always had with this owner. You're right, it's a furling boom. I think it went on a few years ago.
  6. I like it. You can sit astride the coaming and the wheel is right there in front of your chest. It really has a great feel.
  7. This is from last year, but a great time on #1, Corsair, on Lake Erie. It had been years, but I was right back at home on her! https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Hmh_Zql9QwekNFWkVsZ25SUEE https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8Hmh_Zql9QwX2hKNlNuTGlzYUU
  8. RumLine & RobbieB hit the nail on the head. OD Harbor 20 stuff and growing PHRF at SCYC (Hilton Head) Dinghies, juniors & growing PHRF at BYSC (Beaufort) OD & PHRF big boat stuff in Charleston Depending on where you work, traffic isn't bad at all around here. I lived in Bluffton for 7 years before moving to Beaufort. I can tell you we use the club and the boat a whole lot more living 10 minutes away as opposed to 30. And that 30 minutes was the west end of Bluffton. If you start getting closer to Hilton Head, you are going to have a haul to get to Beaufort (in my opinion where the better sailing is, although SCYC has a shorter trip by water to the ocean) Look us up when you're in town.
  9. Anything involving Bruce Nelson and a quick trip to the water.
  10. Are there any M24s around? Or is this a let-them-race-and-they-will-come approach? The Balogney Blowout is out of Fairport/Mentor.
  11. I didn't say anything like that. In fact, I'm sure I could hear DWB down the river last night hootin' it up on the Harbor 20's. Something about ditchin' the sled and getting a fleet of H20s... Also pretty sure I heard something about it not being a problem for you to take the sled for Falcon
  12. Do you know if WHITEHAWK is still around on Lake Erie? Yep, still races out of Grand River, OH. I think there's another 35 there called Shearwater.
  13. Haven't raced on a J/35 in quite a while, but here's a leeward mark rounding at the 1995 Youngstown Levels Regatta. 41322 is Whitehawk, which races out of Grand River, OH. Not sure of the other 2.
  14. (843): fuck yea just found my unicorn costume from when i was 8... still fits (757): my sex list reads like a who's who of mcdonald's general managers