ribber

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  1. I agree with those who saw this happening when they stopped selling hardware and rigging.  Yes, I bought sailing clothes from them, but usually after going to their site for some blocks, cleats, line or rigging.  They had also were informative about which lines to use where, recommendations, and I ordered my halyards and spin sheets there.  All that disappeared so they could focus on selling clothes.
    My recollection is that Lands End started as a real chandlery and got out to become Sears' clothing line.
    Hard to blame the temp shutdown of in-person retail clothing shopping for what was for most of the national market a mail-order business.
     

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  2. 5 hours ago, sailorman44 said:

      On 8/15/2018 at 8:11 AM, sailorman44 said:

     

    Two stories about captains license courses,

     

    About 25 years ago in New London, Ct, the local CG commander let it be known that he would be enforcing the requirement that launch service at local yacht clubs and marinas be in inspected vessels and that said vessels required at least a launch operators license. My club organized a launch operators course. About 40 people attended. the course was 1 night a week for 5 weeks. Had to lay on a bus to take the group to New York to sit for the test. Nobody passed. Embarrassed, the teacher taught the course again for free. Maybe 35 attended. The CG moved the testing venue up to New Haven. 3 passed. I was one of them.... [snipped]

     

    Always wondered this: how does a club launch driver not require a 6-pack or <100 license?  I mean, I get that it seems overkill for running people around a small harbor to their mooring, and judging by the ages of some of these launch drivers, there's no way they have a 6 pack license, but they're hauling more than 6 people who are paying passengers...

    ribber,

    It was 25 years ago and we were under the radar. The college student sons and daughters of members were the launch operators. It gave the kids a summer job and the club cheap labor. It IS overkill to require a licensed operator for a launch that never goes more than a quarter mile.These were kids that had grown up on the water, been thru the club junior program, raced dinghys and with their families and other club members, Much like the Mudrarz who won their class in the  the Bermuda race. They were competent. Now we have 4 licensed captains and the cost to the club went from a few thousand to $15 - 20 thousand. A  big hit for a small club. Some marinas in the area just pulled their moorings or did not provide launch service: use your own dinghy.  Other clubs got around it by not providing formal launch service; they have a couple of whalers for the use of club members. If you need to go out to your moored boat another member will jump into HIS whaler and take you out.  

    This all started when the cub got a brand new launch and one asshole member insisted that it had t be an inspected vessel. Now we were on the radar.

    no no, I get that launch drivers shouldn't have to, from a practical standpoint.  What I don't get is that there are a lot of them, employed by a lot of clubs that are pretty risk-averse who wouldn't do that unless there is a legit way around it.  I just don't see what the way around it is, and wondering if anyone knows what the legit way around it is.


  3. On 8/15/2018 at 8:11 AM, sailorman44 said:

     

    Two stories about captains license courses,

     
    About 25 years ago in New London, Ct, the local CG commander let it be known that he would be enforcing the requirement that launch service at local yacht clubs and marinas be in inspected vessels and that said vessels required at least a launch operators license. My club organized a launch operators course. About 40 people attended. the course was 1 night a week for 5 weeks. Had to lay on a bus to take the group to New York to sit for the test. Nobody passed. Embarrassed, the teacher taught the course again for free. Maybe 35 attended. The CG moved the testing venue up to New Haven. 3 passed. I was one of them.... [snipped]
     

    Always wondered this: how does a club launch driver not require a 6-pack or <100 license?  I mean, I get that it seems overkill for running people around a small harbor to their mooring, and judging by the ages of some of these launch drivers, there's no way they have a 6 pack license, but they're hauling more than 6 people who are paying passengers...