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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. That makes sense, Yigael. Thanks for the explanation. Steve
  2. Bob, That as me pondering where my keel's center of lift really is. On a fin keel, I assume the lift is somewhere around 25% chord. But with my extremely low aspect ratio (1:15?) keel, there can't be much of that Bernoulli stuff happening, right? Steve
  3. Yigael, Like Bob, I think it must be a bit of both forces at work. However, I just thought of a clue that points toward the "heeled hull shape" being dominant: Immediately after tacking, with virtually no boat speed and LOTS OF HEEL, the bow falls off like crazy. Then as the boat starts moving the bow heads up. That tells me that the "transverse CE location" turning tendency might not be as strong as the "longetudinal CE location" turning tendency. Steve
  4. Tom, you would be welcome aboard ANYTIME. Cheers, Steve
  5. Good sailing wind this evening, but I somehow forgot to bring along the new sheet cincher lever. Tested the Trysail again. Boat moved well enough in the dominant wind (25 knots - NOAA) and was powered up nicely in the gusts (30 knots). If the mission is just messing around for the day, I would probably use the reefed main in these conditions. However, if I were making a longer passage, especially at night, I would likely choose this trysail combination as it seems very safe and stable. Boat sails with a touch of weather helm (amazing, considering how far forward this sail plan is). Close hauled, speed was around 5 knots. VMG to weather was not impressive (perhaps 1 knot) but it was certainly enough to stay off the rocks. I'd use the iron trysail if I was really trying to get somewhere up-wind in these conditions. Had enough sail power to squash the waves and keep chugging along. Wing and Wing worked fine DDW. Occasional, unintended jibes were benign.
  6. I trust that Dave is the only person qualified to determine what Dave's perfect sailboat is. Steve
  7. To me 'handy billy' has always ment a portable block and tackle. Steve
  8. IStream generously sent two of these 'ascenders' for me to try out. I gave them a sea-trial and they did help somewhat, but not enough to 'earn their keep'. Thanks anyway, IStream. It was well worth a try. I'll send them back your way soon. Steve
  9. Thanks, Matt.
  10. First prototype seems to works fine. Between the better grip on the rope, and the 3.5 to 1 mechanical advantage, I am able to 'harden up' this rope much much more than by sweating the rope by hand. Wood is Honduran Mahogany. Stay tuned for a sea trial. Steve The 'offset' where the anchor lanyard attaches is key to keeping the thing stable (Panope's trailer in background).
  11. If we massage the "50 knot" point down to wind 44 knots (remember, I guessed at that one), and add the "0 sq ft/60 knot" point, we get a (sorta) smooth arc. The light air condition's "too small sails" can be explained by the CE height being very high (top sails). As the wind builds past 30 knots, the CE heights remain somewhat constant (low). However, windage becomes dominant (boat is flattened under bare poles), thus explaining the plot 'curving' back to zero. It would be interesting to overlay a couple more boats on the curve an see it the pattern repeats (If anyone posts their numbers, remember to use "close hauled" sails only). Yep, fun stuff to play with. Steve
  12. That's cool, Paul. I'd be interested to see the curve if you can post an image of it. Yes, the windage factor makes for SMALLER sail areas than predicted (as the wind increases). However, the lower CE of the reefed/smaller sails will make for LARGER usable sail areas. If someone is motivated to continue the calculation. I could provide the CE heights for the various conditions. Not sure how to explain a "bumpy" curve (besides errors in my data). A possible explanation could be transition from the gaff main to jib headed sails. Steve (Note: my definition of "fully powered" is when my side rail submerges (flat water) when beating or beam to the wind. Rail will probably submerge with BARE POLES at about 60 knots.)
  13. After thinking more about it, I'll adjust those last two figures: 120 sq. ft. @ 35 knots. 75 sq. ft. @ 50 knots (a guess as most I've sailed in is 40).
  14. I'm fully powered with: 750 square feet @ 12 knots. 680 square feet @ 14 knots. 600 square feet @ 16 knots. 430 square feet @ 20 knots. 300 square feet @ 24 knots. 120 square feet @ 30 knots. 75 square feet @ 40 knots. Steve
  15. Every kid needs their own watercraft. For me, it was a log or big chunk of styrofoam that washed ashore from an oyster raft. Today's kids get roto-molded polyethylene. Steve