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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. I just wondered if it was a known issue. It only ever happens when there are only a few unread threads left, so I am moderately sure that I am not accidentally hitting something. Anyway, I can live with it.
  2. BJ, any idea why when I've read most of, but not all of, the threads in a forum (Cruising Anarchy, e.g.), and I navigate from a thread back to the forum stem, the system decides to mark the entire forum as 'read'? This did happen before the forum upgrade too. This time around I got down to the four most recently commented-on threads, read one, went back to find all marked as read... mildly annoying.
  3. Previous post came up as post # 1,666,666 in "Sailing Anarchy" forum. Seems appropriate enough.
  4. I take your point, smack. But I do wonder how high quality impacts on his consciousness. I mean, his way is the way, that is a given, but are all other ways just part of a greyness that must be avoided because of Difference (I don't think so) or... no, I talking myself in circles. The root, as always, is failure to allow for the legitimacy of others' frames of reference. Which problem most of us have to a certain extent and Brent has to an astonishing degree.
  5. Oh, I agree with you. He doesn't see that the increased performance - or 'aesthetic pleasure' - in new sails has a value. I have an old but servicable main that I'm using this season while I learn my boat; it came with a 2 year old main as well that is still quite crisp, and which I've set aside for now. I think the anticipation will be rather pleasing. One reason that responding directly to Mr. Swain was not a useful thing to do is that I have him on ignore so I won't even know if he responded.... This brings to mind a thought experiment I've done in the past, trying to determine in my own mind what value appreciation of quality has as an absolute, and whether there is something lesser (diminished?) in someone who does not appreciate good quality; for example with food someone who is happy to enjoy less complex dishes. I have to conclude that while there is no fault or disgrace in not having a sophisticated palate, there is value in perceiving excellent quality - usually balanced by dissatisfaction with cruder fare! The error Brent makes, as you say above, lies in assuming that appreciation of quality is wrong.
  6. I just ordered a new Hyranet Radial Main for Evenstar. It was slightly more than $350. Now I feel stupid, because for $350 I could just keep sailing on a stretched out main with no shape, and like a big dummy, I ordered a new sail that will be crisp, fast, and well shaped. I almost got a boat without usable sails, BJ, and I would have gone to such a place for a used suit. Same reason too, to keep initial costs down. No shame. Now, on the other hand, I would get new sails if I could, the aesthetic pleasure is worth the cost when the cash is in hand!
  7. Man, if I did that I'd probably be way better at making money doing this! Some people pay well to be told what they want. Much more fun to find out what they want and then make it better.
  8. Ok, thank you daddle. That makes eminent sense. I need to assess before purchase. Brand new old boat, so I haven't gotten all the way around to listing every upgrade yet. The cost (ref. gcutter) is reasonable for the sizes we are using (but $80 per board foot nevertheless!), even after currency exchange etc.
  9. Reminds me of the forward to the 25 year anniversary edition of "The Fountainhead" by Ayn Rand. She claimed to have not adjusted her philosophy at all since she had originally written the book, and, if I recall correctly, claimed it as a virtue to be able to unwaveringly hold tight to one's convictions - life experience and long thought notwithstanding! Sounds familiar.
  10. This is like pissing into the wind, but I have to respond to this. Part of being a good designer is designing for the needs of the client. In boats, in houses (what I do), in anything. The client's needs are often not my needs, and in fact vary hugely. The clients' preferences are often not my preferences. Their needs, preferences, experiences are not somehow of lesser importance than mine. I don't even have to particularly like the result, so long as they do, and so long as it is not actually ill-suited to its purpose. It is fun to have to do such varied work, and would be downright boring to only do design that is peculiarly suited to my own requirements. I do houses, you do boats. You do yourself and others a disservice, Brent, by not stretching your design experience. This has been said by others in different words here - into the wind.....
  11. Is there a rule of thumb for how thick the G10 needs to be in the backing plate application above? I looked the stuff up, found also G9 and FR4, see that everything is rather expensive, and now am a bit more confused than before. It will come clear with a bit more research....
  12. Thank you so much, FoP, for taking the time to post here! As many have said, it is inspiration for our own work. What I like most is the sheer competence of it all.
  13. Two threads for the price of one. They could travel together....
  14. The responses here tend to make a project boat sound like a bad thing. There are some amazing blogs out there for what are essentially boat restorations. An Alberg 30 and an Albin Ballad come to mind as two particularly fine ones. For folks like that the project really is the point. They seemed to thoroughly enjoy spending the time and the money in getting to a sailable piece of art. So if that is what... uh... floats your boat, projects are good! I expect that they knew that they couldn't sell their finished projects for a fraction of the sunk cost in time & dollars.