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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. You do realize the photo of BAR is of the leeward side of the boat, looks like they are preparing for a gybe...the other crew are to windward and not tucked down as you said.
  2. Its fun to dream about all of these fancy systems, but it seems everyone could have been much better prepared by focusing on the basics. For example, a morphing gap in the wing. Before starting such an endeavor, did anyone study the gains around the race track? If they had, I can assure you the time would have been better spent on foils and foil control. The same goes for wing cant gizmos. Groupama clearly has the best foil package. Just look that their rudders, they're long with coord tapering off to almost nothing at depth. By themselves, they are nicely optimized. Then onto their foils, its clear they have a couple options, some more stable than others. The straighter foils have very long span lifting surfaces, undoubtedly their light air package. Makes sense, long span will help foil at lower speeds. The straight vertical part ensures they don't loose too much righting arm. Seems like a good idea for light wind lake sailing. The design brief from now on should be as follows. Step 1, build foils that get the hulls out of the water at all costs while not loosing too much righting arm! You're going to need more than one set of shapes, depending on the venue. Step 2, reduce the drag of the foils! Step 3, Copy a successful wing design or even go to soft sails so that you have more time to spend on the foils!
  3. Wrong...aero can't be adjusted while racing...and the area of the fairings is limited. Since oracle is providing the overall platform design, including pod and beams, there's not much teams can do in terms of platform aero. Yes, the fairings can be optimized but at this stage its all about the sailors and the foil design.
  4. Its all about getting the mid-leach close to centerline for maximum power in light conditions. You all focus too much on the boom position. The power is generated from the sail plan. If the mid-leach is sagging, then its not working for you as well as it could.
  5. Stingray, #1 The 62 rule was much more open. Only the wing was 1-design. Get an F^#&in clue. But the issue isn't the design, its the fact it was changed after a year of development after everyone had signed up unanimously to another rule! #2 In the past, the mere fact that a challenger would engage in a practice race with the defender was a big NO NO. Now we have the defender not only sailing with challengers but also providing designs and personnel. The point is for the challengers to take the cup away from the defender! Not for the weak challengers to look pretty and vote against real challengers. I realize that times change, but you are exactly one of those individuals who would have complained about all of this if it were Alinghi making the rules. But now, you roll over and can't figure out why its so hypocritical.
  6. I think you will find the up tip foil will suffer at higher speeds, in particular near the cavitation barrier. When you get above 40 knots come back and tell us how its going. I suspect you're going to hit a wall at around 35 knots...then again...what do I know...
  7. Ah yes, stable. But fast? No way to know...
  8. Thats a failure too.I mean how hard would it be to properly ban foiling? This hard: 'Daggerboards shall be straight along the main axis, shall have no additional appendages and shall be mounted with main axis no more than 10 degrees from vertical in any direction'. Lets get this straight, they never tried to ban foiling. They did successfully ban automated systems that would make foiling a lot easier. Don't get the two confused.
  9. Not really...when the wing is eased the leading edge rotates. The cut out allows the headsail halyard load to be closer to the center of rotation, allowing the wing to rotate more freely. Thats not to say this wing doesn't have leading element twist, just that the cutout isn't necessarily a sure sign.
  10. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....wake me up when the boats go sailing....