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  1. VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    One for the brother.
  2. VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    Agreed. More parity than apparent early on. (I can't help but think what the scoreboard would look like had VS gotten safely into HK in 2nd and then raced to Auckland. Coulda shoulda...)
  3. VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    Edit - removed my comment - will try to find the HH report. Pretty sure there was an investigation and report.
  4. VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    Looks really fun. Brunel is the ‘mast dry fast guy’ this leg. Looks good. PB and KL would be hitting stride on the helm as well - serious talent. Would be be awesome to be Brunel at or near the front for the rest of the legs. Would make the battl b/w DF and MAP more interesting as well.
  5. Hancock

    Well said NOR and JS. BHwithout any facts. Not classy. It was a total accident. You can’t eliminate all risk of accident or injury in any activity where Mother Nature comes into play. I think about how bloody hard it would be to get back to a sailor knocked overboard in warm inshore conditions out of a bad broach in a small keelboat in 35 knots. Let alone if he/she were unconscious and in high seas in the SO. So much can go wrong.
  6. VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    Agreed. Seems more manageable and moves CE forward. Glad to to see them going so well.
  7. VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    Duplicate time line - Sorry. The timeline outlines a horribly unfortunate accident the way I understand it - but an accident all the same. It would be difficult to remove all risk in any sport or activity where Mother Nature comes into play. BTW Steve Hayles is a class act. A great letter on the front page. Respect
  8. VOR Man Overboard

    On Monday, 26 March, SHK/Scallywag was racing in Leg 7 of the Volvo Ocean Race from Auckland, New Zealand to Itajai, Brazil, approximately 1,400 nautical miles west of Cape Horn Weather conditions were 35-45 knots with 4 to 5 metre seas with showers reducing visibility. It was 15 minutes before sunrise The team was sailing with a single reef in the mainsail and the J2 jib. The Fractional 0 (FR0) sail was hoisted but furled At roughly 1300 UTC SHK/Scallywag surfed down a large wave leading to an accidental crash gybe John Fisher was on deck, in the cockpit. At the time, he was moving forward to tidy up the FR0 sheet and had therefore unclipped his tether As the mainsail swung across the boat in the gybe, the mainsheet system caught John and knocked him off the boat. The crew on board believe John was unconscious from the blow before he hit the water He was wearing a survival suit with a wetsuit hood and gloves and a lifejacket The JON buoy and the horseshoe buoy were thrown off the back of the boat to mark the position It took some time to get the boat under control and motor sail back to a position near where the man overboard occurred At 1342 (UTC), the team informed Race Control, by email, that there was a man overboard and they were returning to the MOB position to start a search pattern With input from the Maritime Rescue Coordination Centre and Race Control in Alicante, a search and rescue operation was carried out for several hours but there was no sign of John, the horseshoe buoy, or the JON buoy With weather conditions deteriorating, a difficult decision was taken to abandon the search and preserve the safety of the remaining crew
  9. VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    Good catch thank you. Blair Tuke may as well be king of the crew union in skiffs and apparent wind sailing but he's so good perhaps they still would have a silver and gold had he and PB switched from the beginning in 49er. Guy's faaaaast.
  10. VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    Makes sense and makes you wonder if there are sailors on board who are in great shape but still struggle getting to 30 minutes with the concentration and focus required at those speeds in those waves. Who is the current Ayrton Senna of the Southern Ocean? Simply the best. Who is the Kimi Raikkonen? The sailor cool as ice, always fast and whose heart rate never changes even when it goes horribly, horribly wrong. The iceman? or Icewoman?
  11. VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    Does each watch rotate helm? Or are there some who are preferred to have their hand on the wheel for longer than others? Can you helm for a full watch in the Southern Ocean? Would like to know who is driving on Mapfre specifically. Some great talent showing there. Greenhalgh for sure.
  12. VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    Good point!
  13. VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    Both boats zigging and zaggingg trying not to hit each other in the middle of the night. Oy vey!!!!! is right
  14. VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    https://www.volvooceanrace.com/en/raw/8082.html Footage at 2:40 remaining. That port stbd could have been much worse. Yikes. Good on Xabi spinning immediately. Bet SHKS didn't even have to hail protest. The way it should be - cop to your mistakes, spin and get going again.
  15. VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    Sea state relief?