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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
    • B.J. Porter

      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.


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  1. If any of this years racers is looking for a last minute code 0 PM me I have a killer sail from last year I'd like to pass on http://spencerweber.com/race2alaska/77wwq3m5czw4cxo5flnln4h3tngfek
  2. I've been looking but can't find anything online either
  3. We had pretty good thermals both going up and down last year, hopefully its sunny again!
  4. Can't remember if this has been posted here yet or not but there is some good footage of Cheers and other sister ships sailing: https://cdn.streamlike.com/play?med_id=9e84dc2d1dec98e0
  5. Awesome job! I want to hear some more stores about their trip, sounds nuts. from http://www.catsailingnews.com/2017/04/team-malingri-dakar-guadalupe-record.html "Saturday they had a close encounter with two whales, then capsized and were forced to swim in order to retrieve all their belongings that fell in the water. Unfortunately, this left them with the electrical system damaged."
  6. Classic Hodge, what a trouble maker
  7. I hope not, my O29 is pretty similar! The SA/D on sailboat data for the O30 is wrong, they're using a 212 sft (#2) genny and 175 sqft (code 4) main. As sail with a #1 and code 5 main SA/D should be closer to 35.
  8. 200 kg isn't light either. Some photos show 2 wands per hull and others only show 1. Any idea what the final setup will be?
  9. A bit of a tangent but this Alien 21 looks like a cool trailer sailor. https://eugene.craigslist.org/boa/6029728963.html
  10. Bring it! I'm curious too, at 99 they both rate the same
  11. Cool project, do you have any pictures?
  12. If you mean first to finish, no. If you mean able to finish, which is a win in most people's book, then yes. In fact, it would be a pretty good choice I think. and as an added bonus you would get instant fame from the Shark cult if you succeed
  13. And if you want to save duplication of headsails, you can always swing a furled jib from one end to the other like this: That looks really smooth, any details on how that's set up? Its on a tack to pull it onto place on the bow?
  14. Why do you say that rigs and proa's are different subjects? Doesn't the rig determine the proas behavior under sail as much as hull shape? I guess what I'm really asking is does a proa's deep hull shape require a jib to drive the bow, or does the absence of rocker cause the larger hull to lock in and truck along like its on rails? I don't doubt, what are some notable experiments I should look up?
  15. Apart from Cheers all the proas that have been discussed have sloop rigs with 2 jibs. What is the reason for this? Having 2 jibs seems inconvenient, why haven't more proas adopted uni-rigs like so many other high performance multis? The rigs too also all appear to be very straight and in column, are they canted or raked in any way when switching between tacks?