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    american tragic, is really the future

    This has been such an interesting conversation I logged in after a long hiatus to put in a couple of thoughts in this mono-multi, which one is shit and which one is superior. The first thought is neither and both. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and has been this way for eons. Some folks like peanut butter, some like chocolate, and some like combining them so a part of this whole conversation is just a variation of tribalism. Some like speed over anything, some like relative speed or speed within what they find beautiful so the idea that one type of boat is "better" is a non-sequitur and really not worth defending. I think it was curious(?) that used an example of comparing piston planes to jets and I do feel it is apt. Monos are one style of sailing, multis another and while they may have the same basic parts, the approach and mentality in racing them is very different. You don't see piston planes flying against jets for it would be ridiculous so the idea of racing mono's and multi in the same race, even with handicaps would also he ridiculous . So then, what's the beef? as it relates to the AC, I would say (and this is obviously my opinion) when Conner came out with the multi hull to race against the Aussies he broke something. I love multis. My first boat was a Prindle 18 and over time gravitated to mono's, racing Buccaneer 18's later in life. But when I say that Cat I was pissed. Folks will argue that the AC was all about "speed" so it made sense to open the door, but my own feeling was that the innovation aspect was monos...that's just my view. The thing is, the AC died when folks started to call boats more by the corporate name then that country it tacitly came from. I viewed it as the Corporate Cup and the race lost its spirit so when the Cats, then the foils came out I just didn't care any more. The AC is s shitshow, but not because of the boat, but how it lost its spirit. As to speed, I have come to love watching the foiling mono's rip through the ocean. Hugo Boss keeps pushing the edge and am excited to see it fly in the VG. To the end, even though I started with multi's, I'll take a monohull over a cat any day, but not because I think there is something "bad" about them, they are just not my cup of tea. I'll sit in the back again, but trying to argue one tribe is better than another is truly pissing into the breeze.
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    The 2018 Golden Globe Race

    Uku beat me to the punch because I was going to question the intelligence of giving a 4 day penalty to a starving man. But then, that is the spirit of the GGR. There is a saying in aviation "get there 'itis" that a pilot will get when feeling close to home, they ignore every warning sign and rule saying "land NOW" and instead think they can make the airport. The number that run out of gas and crash or run into IMC and crash is not small. I don't think it's Stockholm, but 'getthereitis' and it is hard to fight against. Yes, by now from Uku down the clear choice was park the boat, walk away and never choose to join this shitfest again. Barring that, I'd say to Uku, keep getting reports, let him tack on more time till it gets close to Kopar finish and maybe you'll still finish above him. Just to fuck with Don's head. Of course Mad King would at some point decide to toss him a class back...you know, just because he can.
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    The 2018 Golden Globe Race

    Wait, I think I saw that movie made in the late 60's. It does not turn out well for the sailor and after the military sinks the boat (while the scientists are screaming Nooooooo) a black ooze begins to appear on the water...cut to black screen. On a serious note, black mold is not something to mess with and were he not able to remove it there could be some serious health issues to worry about. https://www.cdc.gov/mold/stachy.htm Some flooded homes have been condemned after too much black mold has been found in the house.
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    The 2018 Golden Globe Race

    Man, who got your knickers in a wad. Perhaps it might be good to not comment when sucking down the beers...mate. Seeing as how you didn't start to comment on the GGR till Jan 25th, you sure got a nothing to say for a short time following a race you don't seem well informed about. You might want to switch over to smoking Grass for you really need to chill out.
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    The 2018 Golden Globe Race

    Let's take care of the elephant...so he has one freeze dried package and one soup...a day...for how many days? Now, to Mr Callahan. Good for him. He was in a rubber raft and he did what he could to survive. Well done. As to Uku, yes, he has a 36 ft sailboat and yes, he is in a race...but he is also in decreasing supplies, he gets a wave of fees if he finishes, but given he''s 4000+ miles of sailing to the finish, is getting an entry fee back worth the misery? This race turned out to be a joke, a lark, a foundation for a man who maybe had an interesting idea, but did a shit job of making it even good, but filled his ego. There was a time when I was racing in the North Carolina Gov Cup regatta. Big deal, lot's of boats...fun fun fun...except the Organizers tried to run 100+ boats, 11 classes on one race course in light to nothing conditions. It was a mess and then some. There is a point when you say, this is not worth it. I bailed after two races. I was derided, scorned, told I was a wimp...so be it. Two year later I not only organized a national class event, I raced the full week and came in 4th. There is nothing wrong in bailing out when the ROI in life does not match that of the reward to cross someone else's ego line. Uku, Kopar, Tapio, they have nothing to prove, but to step away, to regroup and learn....better time served in my book.
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    The 2018 Golden Globe Race

    He is just over 3000 miles as the sea gull flies, but since he can't just point the bow NE, he'll have to go NNW or NW then tack back and still get around some high pressure areas. He is @ 33 days out. Can anyone realistically live off the sea for 33 days? That is not a gamble I'd want to take, assuming one can catch fish and still sail reasonably fast. What is a storm stops him from catching fish....the Verde's are right there, 800+ miles away and I bet they got great restaurants that serve more than fish.
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    The 2018 Golden Globe Race

    The next time is what I find amusing. I would not say this was a great one off experiment in ol' timey retrograde RTW sailboat racing or even good, but it had its moments and for a short time, some interesting competition. It served a purpose (kinda), to honor an accomplishment done 50 years ago, even if by doing so the whole "do like we did in 1968" was not even close to realistic (from boat selection to fancy rope to HAM radio usage....the list is long). This race is kind of like if you went back to the hey day of Indy car racing and said, let's have us a remembrance race. let's watch a bunch of very old style cars drive fairly slow around a modern track with all sorts of now required safety equipment. Its quaint, but to repeat it after a few years; it loses any meaning or value other than to inflate the ego of the guy running it. The crowd shows up the first time to watch the circus, but once they see around the facade, it is not worth watching again. Fours years from now you really can't call in a "Golden" anything since 50 is in the past. Now it's just a bunch of old slow boats going around the world in a extremely restrictive race. Remove the restrictions, figure ways to try and keep the cost down and maybe it gets interesting, but a repeat.....why? The race now is over. Those four boats left are either in or close to survivalist mode with no notoriety on completion other to say...we crossed a line. My best advice to them would be to end the suffering/sacrifice, find a nearest port and go home to friends and family. We are not proving that human s can sail around the world....it's been done.
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    The 2018 Golden Globe Race

    As I said way back when...Suhali had not gone south of 40 (45?) and it looks like Don just picked that as a line in the sand. I get ice zones with roadsters like the VG and VOR. Crunch at 20+ knots would not be good, but this was not an ice line thing...not at snail pace. That was when I felt this race go south (pun intended).
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    The 2018 Golden Globe Race

    JL is a class act. I'd love to be there if they had a one on one. Kudo's again to Mark. My feelings about this race stands, but listening to those two talk, I do feel blessed to share in this public moment.
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    The 2018 Golden Globe Race

    Said before he went live. Questioned if he would. I was wrong on that,.
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    The 2018 Golden Globe Race

    No, I'm saying there was no reason to hang out at the finish line just to finish in daylight. Looking at the sea state who would want hang out in that.
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    The 2018 Golden Globe Race

    Why sit outside a finish line for x number of hours when comfort and rest are mere miles away. Don' could have been out there if he tried.
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    The 2018 Golden Globe Race

    Just saw this....Talk about pulling shit from the ass. The Ring Master needs to state that Slats would receive the ultimate penalty, ChiChester, but out of the goodness of his heart he instead waves his hands and declares, nothing gained, so now it's just 36 hours tacked onto a fairly secured 2nd place. I wonder, will Slat's now have an (*) added to his name indicating he got second, but not a real second, a 36 hour later second. This really shows the banality of this circus, for if Donny boy had any balls, he would have enforced what his rules say is the actual penalty, but no...he does not want any shit hitting his clean image of a "good guy" nor does he want a explosion of a press conference, so he gives pardon to the errant waif and decrees the race continues. Seriously Mark, show up to the Presser and tell Don to shove this race back up his ass for it sure ain't worth doing it again. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GGR NOTICE of RACE Determination...NO. 5 MARK SLATS 30th January 2019. Mark Slats BREACH of NOR 3.1.4 TELEPHONE CONTACT. BACKGROUND 28th January 2019 At 10:30, Race HQ received a communication from Dick Koopmans, Mark Slats‘ team manager, saying that a storm was predicted in the Bay of Biscay just as Mark Slats was expecting to finish, and asking for the Race finish line to be moved 50 miles offshore. This was denied. 11:59, Race HQ responded to Koopmans saying that Race Chairman Don McIntyre had sent a weather warning to Slats and that Mark had subsequently called via his safety sat phone to discuss the weather scenario. Slats advised that he was receiving weather forecasts onboard and was aware of the approaching storm. The email advised Koopmans that Slats was not slowing down and planned to continue towards the finish line. It added. “But if you want a message passed on about the weather, we are happy to do that. Just email here.” 12:21 Koopmans replied by e.mail saying that “I spoke to Gerrit Hiemstra, one of our leading meteorologists in Holland…In his opinion it is completely unsafe to sail into the Bay of Biscay. He suggests to stay outside and finish in La Coruna or Brest, but not in Les Sables d’Olonne. This is also the (unofficial) opinion of the Dutch Coastguard and Falmouth Coastguard. I am very unhappy with your advice and consider to call Mark on his Iridium phone, whatever the consequences may be.” 13:16, Race Chairman Don McIntyre responded: “Just a reminder, we never give directives to entrants. We give opinions and the final choice is up to entrants. Mark is receiving weather reports on his radio…. I would strongly suggest that you do NOT call Mark. I have offered to message him any advice you wish to send him in relation to safety avoiding the storm. I am awaiting for that advice. All decisions are the responsibility of the skipper.…I am now officially asking you for your advice on the safest route for him to take if you wish to be involved with efforts to send him to the safest place. I will then pass him that from you.” 13:28: message from GGR HQ to Mark. “Dick advice: head to la Corunna or Brest to miss the storm.” 13:33 Email from Koopmans to GGR: ”Ignoring authorities like Coastguard and top meteorologist. I do not trust the Race Committee on their knowledge in the situation. I think safety is now more important than rules. I will send Mark messages to his Iridium phones from now on. 13:34. Email from Koopmans to GGR: Do not speak to Mark in my name.” 13:38 Race HQ to Koopmans: “Mark will be penalised for breach of rules. We have NOT been directed by any authority and if you look at your emails, we are awaiting your advice on where to send him. Your actions and comments DO NOT relate in the best interests of Mark’s race and we are both working towards Mark’s Safety. PLEASE place your message through GGR. If you need clarification, please ring. WE ARE STILL WAITING YOUR ADVICE. YOU RISK PENALISING MARK FOR NO REASON AT ALL…YOUR CHOICE. WE HAVE MADE IT CLEAR WE CAN SEND ANY MESSAGE TO HIM. WE ARE STILL WAITING. YOU MUST NOT CONTACT MARK 13:46: Email from Koopmans to Race HQ: “Safety is more important than penalties. You can read all the messages later and decide on penalties.” RULES APPLICABLE 3.1.4 A Skipper may only contact the GGR control by GGR sat phone or YB3 texting during the Voyage and may not use these to contact any other party except in an emergency. 3.1.12 Failure to comply with any of these rules , will lead to the skipper having to abandon the Race. GGR FINDINGS Koopmans is the Official Manager of MARK SLATS as required in the NOR. Koopmans ignored GGR written advice multiple times to NOT contact MARK SLATS or a Breach of the Notice of Race would occur and a penalty would be applied. Koopmans messaged Slats directly (confirmed by Mark Slats)– A breach of the Notice of Race 3.1.4 is confirmed. PENALTY MARK SLATS is moved to the CHICHESTER CLASS. TIME PENALTY SUBSTITUTE The GGR committee has determined that as a result of the actions following the unauthorized satellite communications, NO materiel benefit has been gained. A Time Penalty Substitutes has been considered by the committee and while the entrant has not requested it due to time constraints, the committee has allowed it. For the unauthorized sat phone use an 18 hour time penalty is applied. For the total disregard (with intent) to warnings by the GGR to the Manager, an 18 hour time penalty is applied. As the GGR committee had previously agreed that the penalty Box be moved to 20degrees North Latitude, the total 36 hour penalty will be added to Mark Slats' finish time and his OFFICIAL FINISHING TIME will be amended accordingly. MARK SLATS returns from Chichester Class to the GGR.
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    The 2018 Golden Globe Race

    Wait...What? When did that happen? If so, let's all declare Uku in third, Kopar fourth, and let Tapio off the hook (for he may be passed by (what's up next?...VG, VOR?) before he finishes) and call this thing now.