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About Oceanconcepts

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  • Birthday 12/14/1952

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    Seattle, Washington, USA
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    Electronic instrumentation and user interface design, Scuba diving, rowing, sailing, boat design, new technology.
    Current custodian of Pathfinder, a NZ built, cold molded Kauri S&S one tonner.

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  1. Oceanconcepts

    Seattle/Puget sound open boat and trailer sailor advice

    I've kept various small boats on various floating devices in slips for years- chunks of shaped foam with wood on top, decked over floats, etc. most recently supporting a couple of rowing shells. I was able to do this alongside our old Aphrodite 101 without intruding into the neighbor's space, but the current boat is about twice as wide and this is no longer possible. I really miss being able to take off for a row in the early morning without any hassle. I've made the point to our harbormaster that space for small boats on a floating dock is something people like me would pay for. There might be some interest. Seems like a no-brainer for improving access to the water.
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    Seattle/Puget sound open boat and trailer sailor advice

    I kept a wood Finn (±235 lb.) on the Shillshole dinghy dock back when dinosaurs roamed the earth, and more relevant kept a Thistle on a similar dock on lake Washington for years- at just over 500 lb. I had a trailer roller set up on the edge of the dock for the Thistle. I kept a cheap trailer winch mounted on a plank with a tie at one end, tied it to a cleat, and just cranked it up. If I recall I had a trailer roller clamped to the edge of the dock to make it come up a bit easier. I made a simple cradle for the boat to fit into. I don't think it was a big hassle for me to do solo- certainly far less than dealing with a trailer. It's so much better and faster to have your boat rigged and more or less ready to go, as opposed to dealing with trailers & launch ramps.
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    What custom cruiser...if money were no object?

    Count me as one who has always found this rig to be attractive, at least on a boat with relatively short overhangs like Anomaly (or the earlier Freedom cat-ketches). To my eye they harken back to a workboat, rather than a yacht, aesthetic. I have admired the Freedom 44 since I was first on one in the mid 80's, and came close to buying one a few years back. There do seem to be some practical advantages, particularly with modern materials. Anomaly caught my attention in earlier threads, first because of the rig, and then for the overwhelming amount of thought and experimentation that must have gone into developing other aspects of the design.
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    Dinghy build: Two-Paw 8 nesting

    Type of plastic probably makes a difference, I expect Delrin or acetal is a bit more wear resistant than nylon. But yes, I have 700+ miles on my boat with Concept II oarlocks and they are just fine. Inspired by this thread. I have a good spot on the cabin top for a nesting dinghy....
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    Does Your Insurance Cover What You Think It Does?

    I’m the guy they are quoting in the PS article who came up with the hypothetical, though my boat is cold molded wood, not fiberglass. The Boat US rep responding to me does say that they have created an additional rider one can now purchase that gives more coverage than back in 2018 when I asked the question, but the basic facts are the same. I spent a lot of time on the phone with Boat US to makes sure I had the facts straight before I headed for another company. This all stemmed from an earlier thread on SA, where more details are laid out. The PS response came because I responded to a PS post with the information I uncovered in this thread: As I understand, this change happened after Boat US changed their underwriting to GEICO a couple of years ago. Here’s the problem as I laid it out to the Boat US staff: I have an agreed value policy for 35K, based on a survey. If my boat is a complete loss they will pay the 35K agreed value. HOWEVER... If my hull and/ or rig is damaged and requires 20,000 in repairs to be restored to previous condition, the policy will pay a maximum of 20% of the cost of the repairs, less my deductible. This is because the depreciation is taken at a fixed rate, and with a 47 year old boat I had long ago reached the maximum. After 28 years they cover 20%, period. There was no distinction made between parts and labor. It does not matter that the condition and age of the hull are independent variables, or that I have a recent survey. Coverage is purely a function of the boat's age. The Boat US representative replying to my scenario in the PS article didn’t really address this, but got lost in talking about canvas, electronics, machinery, and other things that obviously depreciate at a faster rate. Sure, I’m perfectly OK with that. But my kauri hull or interior joinery is not worth 80% less because it’s more than 20 years old. As a result of the thread above and my calls, I realized was that I essentially had a liability only policy, with no actual coverage for damage to my boat short of a total loss. Some may be fine with that, I was not, and fairly easily found a better (and considerably lower cost) policy that did not have depreciation on basic structural components (though electronics, canvas, upholstery, etc. do have a depreciation schedule). My impression is that Boat US policies are now mostly geared towards late model powerboats that live on trailers. Like many who had been with Boat US for years and had always heard good reports (and never had a claim), I didn’t read my policy or ask questions until the SA thread above prompted me. Like many say above, read the policy, and see if it fits your needs.
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    Dinghy build: Two-Paw 8 nesting

    A set of decent cabinet scrapers of differing weights and profiles and a little practice sharpening them is one of the best all around time and money investments for epoxy or wood work. It's a pleasure when you get the hook right and see the shavings curl off the surface.
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    Brightwork Anarchy

    Flirt of paget is hands down the most inspiring project on SA. As the owner of another (older, 1970) wooden one-tonner built of kauri you often cause me to hang my head in shame... I have had excellent durability on some small craft where the softwood hull was sheathed in laminating epoxy and finished bright. Particularly if a layer of light glass is incorporated. I have seen years sitting in the open with no obvious deterioration to the epoxy bond, and only occasional need to restore the varnish. Where I have seen failures with the epoxy approach is on dense hardwoods. I don't know if the problem is my method or if this is asking too much of the wood-epoxy bond, but my success with just straight varnish has been better on hardwoods. Keep those updates coming, that's just an amazing job.
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    Brightwork Anarchy

    I have often used epoxy under varnish, with some good results, but have also had issues with the epoxy-wood bond breaking down, at least on hardwoods. So I did an experiment. This is in the PNW, so less sun than southern locales, but plenty of freeze/ thaw cycles. I made new companionway bin boards and a new instrument holder, both the same wood (new jatoba) and prepared the same way. Both face the same direction on the boat, towards afternoon sun, and are essentially next to one another. On the instrument holder I cleaned with acetone, then put down a couple of coats of thin epoxy (System Three), sanded, and finished with Total Boat Lust gloss. Maybe 3 coats of varnish as I recall. Fast recoat time is nice. On the bin boards I used only the varnish, first coat thinned, the rest put on fairly quickly, probably six coats over a few days. After two years exposure, the finish on both is still glossy, but on the instrument holder the bond between the epoxy and wood has started to fail- not peeling (yet), just looking milky & discolored. The bin boards still look like new. Damage seemed to appear in the winter. My hypothesis is that the rigidity of the epoxy is the source of the issue, the varnish bond seems to tolerate wood movement with temperature better. I have the instrument surround in the workshop now, stripping off the finish and will replace with varnish only. Just another data point
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    Coolboats to admire

    I have never had that experience- all the tree olives I've encountered, including the green ones we cured, were... astringent. But they were not Italian. You have answered my question. Starting with something that is reasonably edible and moving to preservation makes sense. We have a niece who is quite a bit better off than us financially, and who with her husband just finished a several year project restoring an 18th century villa in Tuscany, complete with olive groves and vineyards. Quite an undertaking, considering the need to keep to historical appearances and also meet seismic standards. We get their olive oil and their wine, both spectacular, every year. This summer was going to be our time to visit for a few weeks. Of course, those plans are sadly on hold now, so my opportunity to replicate your experience must await happier times.
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    Coolboats to admire

    I've always wondered how anyone figured out the method for making olives edible. Glad they did, still, if you have ever gone through the process it's not exactly intuitive.
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    Boat Dogs - What to look for?

    But does she sing? Our PWD didn't bark once in the first couple of years, but would let out with the most expressive verbal acrobatics over about three octaves. Would sing along with my wife at the piano. Only found out he could bark when a sketchy solicitor he just didn't like came to the door. He had quite a sensitivity for people. Loved babies and toddlers, and was gentle and patient with them. Would spend hours with a friend's autistic son who could only throw the ball a few feet. Did have a bad habit of chewing up fenders.
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    Zero deg of seperation from the Bug

    It's long been my opinion that many problems in life and politics trace back to short term thinking. Problem now is that our Dear Leader is cognitively incapable of thinking beyond whatever it takes to put himself at the center of the current news cycle. Hence the day to day contradictions and provocative statements intended to stir up attention. A bigger problem is that a significant minority take him seriously.
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    Zero deg of seperation from the Bug

    Anchovies & onions, yes! I have over the last few years started regularly baking slow fermented (naturally rising/ sourdough) bread. One of my quarantine ambitions is to take that dough and use it in a pizza context. We were blessed by the previous owner of our house (30 years ago, she was a pastry chef) with a Garland commercial range in the kitchen. I put a 1.5" x 24" square fireclay kiln shelf in the bottom, which makes the ideal surface for pizza crust. You are providing inspiration.
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    Zero deg of seperation from the Bug

    Masks are a good example, but as you say the phenomena is across the board. I have a somewhat different take, though: Scientists and medical professionals have been pretty consistent with their observations and recommendations. Unfortunately, what they say is that there is much they don’t know and a great deal of uncertainty. Run that through popular media / news filtering and it can sound a lot like inconsistency. Re. Masks, this is the messaging I have picked up from informed sources since mid January: We don’t understand completely how Covid-19 spreads- if it’s just larger droplets, or (potentially but most don’t think likely) aerosols. How small the droplets can be has huge implications as the the efficacy and type of masks for preventing infection. Masks are in extremely short supply, particularly N95 masks, and should preferentially be reserved for health care workers who absolutely do need them. Fabric / surgical masks are of limited (but probably non-zero) efficacy in preventing the wearer from being infected with a virus, but help in preventing the wearer from infecting others- “keeping your droplets to yourself”. The baseline reason for wearing masks in public spaces is to protect others. Wearing a mask improperly, or over and over without cleaning, could be counterproductive for preventing infection to the wearer. Masks are not a substitute for physical distancing or good hygiene. They should not provide a sense of invulnerability. You can stay safe without wearing a mask. There is no good reason for wearing masks outside in spaces where physical distancing can be maintained. There are good reasons for encouraging universal mask wearing in spaces where physical distancing can’t easily be maintained. Government messaging at the Federal level has been inconsistent- my belief is that is mostly due to a hollowing out of upper levels of the bureaucracy, the elimination of expertise and experience over the last three years, particularly in agencies related to science or the environment. The attrition has been phenomenal. Political and industry associations have, um, “trumped” all other concerns in selecting leadership, and career experts have been sidelined or neutered. In many cases that has left incompetents, sycophants, or industry lackeys running the show or in charge of implementing policy. China has a lot to answer for regarding how they handled this outbreak internally early on. But that is in no way an excuse for our own lack of response. From following my classmate Laurie Garrett, I saw that she and her sources (including inside China) were extremely skeptical of the official Chinese government reporting- particularly re. human to human transmission- in early January. The “Red Dawn” email chain confirms that we knew what was actually going on, including transmission & strong pandemic potential, by mid January. When our own scientists and our own intelligence agencies were providing accurate data and raising extreme alarms, blaming Chinese spin and propaganda is purely an attempt to evade responsibility for inaction and incompetence. That deflection of blame seems to be the main thrust of a certain segment of the media right now: "We would have done more / acted earlier, but China and the WHO misled us". In other words, “I take no responsibility”. Sorry, that's utter BS. The information was there- as one expert said, “every light on the instrument panel was flashing red”. Info needed to establish this as an emergency was published by WHO by Jan. 23. New reparatory coronavirus= no immunity. Human to human transmission with R0 of 2+ Fatality rate over 1% Severe illness in ± 25% of infections. We got golf, denial, rallies, and incompetence for another two months.
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    Zero deg of seperation from the Bug

    I keep going back to William Shirer's "The Nightmare Years" a great read. It's his personal memoir of reporting from Austria and Germany in the 1920-30's, up to the first years of WWII. Trump is not Hitler- he's too lazy and cognitively limited. But the way popular media and truth itself were manipulated, "other" groups were scapegoated, and how ordinary people in a literate, powerful, and sophisticated country were subverted by a passionate and ignorant minority- well, it has disturbing parallels to what I see today. I hope we are stronger and turn away from this path.