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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Could be either or I guess, but probably no script girl in 'guerrilla' film making. Ha Ha!!
  2. Jack, Not long ago a short one minute trailer like this could easily cost 100k. With the advance of digital photography, and whole suite digital editing of both sound and video, not to mention the more recent introduction of drones, a small film crew can come reasonably close at a fraction of the cost. Something like the Waterlust crew, while certainly not underfunded, put out a high quality product with a small crew that would've never been possible twenty years ago. It was none other than Francis Ford Coppolla who used to muse about a new era where any kid with a camera and a computer and some talent could not be stopped. I think we sometimes forget how relatively new the era of YouTube gorilla filmmaking actually is. It's all to taste, and you certainly don't need a drone to make a tight film, and sure, some are certainly better than others. (Admittedly, the Comanche spot sure is a tad more than 'gorilla filmmaking' (industry slang for shoestring budget) but the budget might surprise).
  3. Got it. Makes sense as my friend (ex St. Francis) and Norbert were both on the Ellison 'support' yacht in Valencia so the GGYC/St.Francis 'kerfuffle' would've taken place prior to the initial Oracle challenge. For some reason I had it my (foggy) mind that this shuffle was in the lead up to the defence as opposed to the lead up of the challenge, and yes, the initial challenging club was indeed GGYC. Still sticking with the no legal basis to sue.
  4. SF, Happy to be corrected by a local. I was passing through SF just as GGYC was mounting the campaign and had dinner with Norbert and another St. Francis member(and Larry ally) who resigned and moved to GGYC over the kerfuffle. My details could well be foggy, and I'd assumed that Larry, from the outset, was booking to have it in SF, regardless of what club would host. (Maybe he used other cities as a bargaining chip). As for my comment on no legal basis to sue, I'll stick with it.
  5. What legal basis does the GGYC have to sue after the tent's folded up and all the fans and whiners have gone home? At this point, the holder of the cup can chose where and when they pitch their next circus tent, what kind of boat, and who the challenger of record is. Moreover, there's a difference between 'standing up to', and 'unwillingness to accomodate'. After St. Francis refused certain demands(namely a seat on the board), Norbert and a couple other players were more than willing to accomodate, unruffle the feathers of the BIG EGO, and get on with it. The city and location had already been chosen from the outset, no? As for the lack of excitement or tactics, that's like saying the Monaco Grand Prix is boring because it's hard to pass. I'll echo the above post that this is bringing the sport into the 21st century and it's more about spectacle than tactics for the general public.
  6. To windward, I'll throw down on this venerable over 30 year old fibreglass centre boarder designed by Cassian and Cuthbertson, the good ol' Pace Ship 20. http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=6871
  7. Boo hoo, I say turning your hobby into a job is turning pro. Good for these guys for upping the ante and making it happen, drones and Outremer included. Whether or not a couple's relationship survives being in business together is a side bar issue. Good luck to them! (I haven't watched any of these except at the beginning of their trip...I do like their buddies Norlin 37 in this video though...)
  8. Quick question. Who came up with the expression 'Roll your Own' as it relates to powering a (n) (insured) vessel?
  9. Only proviso is using the highest quality bits and screws fitted properly to avoid stripping in the first place. But what'r ya gonna do...need a B plan if something's stuck.
  10. Cool, I'm gonna look into Screw Grab. There are multi ways to get a handle on stripped fasteners, screws, nuts, bolts. Always interested in the best of what's out there.
  11. Was gonna mention a heat gun as well but Zonker mentioned it. BJ, what's the screw grab? Always good to have an extra way to release a stripped screw/bolt/nut. BJ, you've gotta 'carry it all' but if you'll note, the OP has a coastal C&C37, and that I mentioned 'this distinction vanishes for the long term voyager'. So for you, no dock box required.
  12. Hammer, Sounds like you guys have got it covered, but ya gotta draw the line between a 'full kit' that stays in the dock box and the 'minimal kit' on board. This distinction vanishes for the long term voyager but probably applies to your C C 37. In addition to the good lists mentioned above, here are a couple more basic and random favourites/essential nic nacks. --Onboard-- impeller tool and spare impeller tool for removing deisel/water deck plugs(X2 'cause oops!) self adhering and non self adhering rigging tape(lots of the non self because it dries, peels and needs frequent replacing)/also electrical tape for other stuff Various spare fuses(check what you'll need) and various cotter pins, wire connectors A few spare shackles of various sizes a couple rolls of temporary sail patch tape(I seem to use it more to patch my winter canvas cover than actual sails...works great). Serrated and non serrated rigging knives and at least one w/a marlinspike and shackle key(recently got a sweet SOG 2) Leatherman Wave multi tool is #1 In addition to your small and large vice grips, regular and needle nose pliers(non locking) Mini ratchet(great for small, blind hard to reach places) Good to have a few small tubes of above water 3M epoxy on board that can be used in a pinch. Using clear epoxy for a quick job is a good bet and less messy if on the fly, and can use white for more fastidious job later on. Dry Lube Semi permanent Loctite If you've got an old canvas bosun's chair from the 80s that came w the boat, pick up a climbing harness. Much safer. A basic good quality one is not expensive. Ideally you might want a rigger to go up top but good to have one on board just in case that's not an option. A multi-Allen key tool in both metric and imperial(blue and red). For a boat of 80s vintage, dodgers and biminis always seem to use one, the other, or a combo. All the other stuff mentioned in above posts. --In the Dock Box-- A mouse sander is great for handrails, curves and hard to get to places Dremel tool Magnet on a string for retrieving your favourite tool that you dropped overboard just as you were almost finally finished with it. Wet/Dry Shop Vac De Humidifier if storing racing sails down below Self expanding hose Non Ammonia Cleaner #1 is Method brand/Ammonia #1 is Spray Nine #1 varnish Epiphanes All the heavy tool sets that Whisper mentions --- Even though I've always had a strict no duct tape policy on board I've always had a roll tucked away in a classified location. Probably comes from sailing dinghies in younger days when, if we were missing cockpit plugs, duct tape seemed to work just fine. Glad to report I'm into my third decade with the same boat and havn't broken my rule and actually used it(yet). For fishing out small leaves and debris that have sunk through scuppers between the barrier bar, I've never found a better tool than two butter knives from the galley used like chopsticks. Many more to mention that, alas, I've forgotten. So many tools...so little time.
  13. KDH, Plugging into shorepower, in and of itself, all things being equal, shouldn't be a primary source of concern for galvanic corrosion. Presuming your zincs are replaced and you've got clean wiring, especially in bilge switches and such, the bigger concern is what the boat next to you is up to. (Proviso, I don't know your slip or shorepower box, nor your neighbours.)
  14. If North East includes the Great Lakes, the boat spends six or seven months a year in fresh water.
  15. Didn't the character Fletch purport to be 'part Mohawk part Norwegian'? Anyway, here's a link, for anyone interested, to the most famous and historically significant Metis in Canadian history, Louis Riel. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Riel