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  1. Elisa

    VOR Leg 11 Gothenburg to The Hague

    Love it, I’ll rewatch occasionally to just remember the high- and lowlights of this edition. That three boat tie and the lost of Fish and the poor fisherman will stay with me forever.
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    VOR Leg 11 Gothenburg to The Hague

    In terms of nationality of teams from the uninvolved audience (like me) the skipper’s nationality gets double points. Brunel is perceived Dutch because of Bouwe. Dongfeng is at least as French as it is Chinese to me for that same reason. Strong characters like Pascal and Kevin add to that. Might not what sponsors and RO aim for (French flags seem carefully avoided), reality is hard set unfortunately.
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    VOR Leg 11 Gothenburg to The Hague

    ^^ Those legs are last in the cue here, but luckily didn’t came last in the Volvo Ocean Race!
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    VOR Leg 11 Gothenburg to The Hague

    Nice! https://twitter.com/volvooceanrace/status/1013082728831451138?s=21
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    VOR Leg 11 Gothenburg to The Hague

    Paintwagon, I’ve not seen a thing or word from Nicho.... Was this his last round? How about the others on AkzoNobel?
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    VOR Leg 11 Gothenburg to The Hague

    So, so happy for TTOP, Dee and her puppies!
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    VOR Leg 11 Gothenburg to The Hague

    Maybe they prefer Vor over AC? If it is a Kiwi entry... and with Burling as skipper?
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    VOR Leg 11 Gothenburg to The Hague

    You can hear this a lot, good chance there will be a Kiwi entry. Burling, Tuke and Bannatyne have applied already so it seems.
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    VOR Leg 11 Gothenburg to The Hague

    That was funny, I think the Dutch king won’t mind it much. He doesn’t seem to be that much attached to protocol. Bouwe clearly knows the king very well given the amount of shoulderpadding that was going on . Interesting that the King chose to go with Brunel and not AkzoNobel. Part of the job these Pro Ams, but man they must be boring as hell. Ps: when does leg 12 start? I mean crews are rested, boats are ready and good to go, Capey has seen enough Dutch bars, Tuke and Burling have scores to settle, Dongfeng’s Pascal and Charles can finally cruise around, Vestas can finally wake up and show their stern to the whole fleet by finishing first.... unless Mapfre icecool takes it, Witty now just started to listen more to Libby and Bessie and Headmistress Dee should finally let her cuties take the wheel. Might be Lisbon, Alicante or even Cape Town .
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    VOR Leg 11 Gothenburg to The Hague

    Loved these interviews! thank you @sailorgirl218!
  11. Question is should they keep rule in place?, or would the (current) skippers hire these trained women on their own merits as accomplished sailors and not as a result of the rules?... To be honest, I’m pessimistic, loose the rule, loose these women I think... and that is less progress than lots of us hoped for. Enough, otherwise I might turn into an old sour grape..
  12. No flaming Mad , but whys it then in so many sports the female equivalent doesn’t get half as much attention as their male counterpart? Sponsors, tv rights etc they just don’t buy into it. Female soccer, cycle tours, etc are exciting to watch but they don’t get prime time and payment..why? I honestly don’t know, part could be that men still rather watch cool guys instead of cool girls. You might be one of the rare positive exceptions to that rule Mad, .
  13. You hit a lot of nails on the head there Staysail. I agree, you say girls don’t wait, but take charge. We would need another SCA type sponsor. Problem is lots of these big sponsors are predominantly run by men as well. They too will tend to hire men primarily. So it is easier said than done. A long haul thing. A women only crew that can compete would be awesome. Could be a lot of old SCA crew that now have a lot more miles under their belt. Dee skippering perhaps, only if she lets go of the ‘schooltrip’ vibe she has going on. We’ll see and I’m sure this will be discussed lots upcoming years.
  14. All valid points, but what is the alternative? Should women than just give up and stay on the docks? The silence in the presser by the leading skippers was extremely painful, and all telling. Little progress has been made if you scrape of the tiny layer of PR coating as it seems. Change is a long haul thing, so the rule should stay for at least one more race to create some critical mass and hopefully then some of these women will be on the crew list on own merit instead of regulations. It will take a new generation of sailors to get this into their DNA. An all women competitive team, able to win the trophy is a long way still.... but a girl can dream! Edit: just asked my solider and he said that because it is very much a man’s sport to watch, as a guy you would want to relate/identify to/with the guys doing the badass stuff and it is just (much) easier if that are cool guys instead of cool girls... is same in F1 racing, cycling, golf... and so on. There is some truth in this I think.
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    VOR Leg 11 Gothenburg to The Hague

    .... was it that good to watch?! haha, well who thought, there is life after the VOR! Edit: the soccer must have been torture for you as well....
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    VOR Leg 11 Gothenburg to The Hague

    Lovely pics, who won?
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    VOR Leg 11 Gothenburg to The Hague

    perhaps he can go round again with a Kiwi entry
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    VOR Leg 11 Gothenburg to The Hague

    UK also not much/no coverage. For the French coverage it probably didn’t help that there wasn’t a stopover in France.
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    VOR Leg 11 Gothenburg to The Hague

    So what do you guys think of Vestas and the Yankee lads? Some mixed results, lows and highs, consistency lacking a bit perhaps. Will they have had enough or will they be back?
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    VOR Leg 11 Gothenburg to The Hague

    Auch, awkward, Dee rightfully pointed to the others for some answers to that very relevant question. The silence and the avoiding ceiling studiying by some was telling. Xabi, Brouwe and Charles easily could have told about the good things the women on board added to their success. They seem to think the effects are limited. I’m pessimistic without the rule the women won’t be on board I think. The rule needs to stay until the younger generation skippers (including Simeon and Charly) have internalised the concept. As in so many other areas and industries equality is an ongoing battle. This race and the strength some women in this race, such as Dee, Sophie, Carolijn, Liz, Bessie and Abby to name a few, have shown will help win the battle but not (yet) the war. We’re here to stay.... and the old salts better get used to it .
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    VOR Leg 11 Gothenburg to The Hague

    Oh the drama! https://twitter.com/volvooceanrace/status/1011318032482914304?s=21
  22. Awesome article and photographs! Women in the VOR are there to stay. I still dream of a very competitive all female team that would compete for the podium. Perhaps next edition, so much talent has matured (like Emily below) and in combination with veterans like Abby, Dee, Liz t name a few could perhaps do it.
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    VOR Leg 11 Gothenburg to The Hague

    So many young puppies that grew up in the passed year one of them: