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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

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  1. Sweet spot for wind

    RS Aero or Laser: 30 - 35 mph and big seas RS700: a very very steady 13 mph, with flat water
  2. 2017 Centerboard Circuit of Texas

    I signed up for Wurstfest Portsmouth Dinghy with my RS700. Looks like a UFO is signed up in that race as well. That will be fun to watch!!
  3. RS700 Newbie Video

    Thanks Frank. It was good advice from you and others that got me this far. Couple questions for you: At 230 lbs, I feel as though I capsize the boat to windward very easily. On this day (as most days for this lake), the wind was gusty running anywhere from 5 to 15 mph. At a solid and steady 15 mph I feel as though I can stand out on the bar OK. In fact, in my last trip to Corpus Christi I took the boat w/ me and had a great time in a very very steady (both in direction and strength) 13 mph winds. In those conditions, I ventured out onto the bar (unfortunately no video) and felt comfortable crouching in when the wind dipped slightly. But in such radically varying wind from 5 to 15 mph, I feel like I'm going to be continually caught out on the bar when a lull comes, and inevitably capsize to windward. So, I try to play it safe by trapping off the gunwale instead. Am I just being a chickensh*t, or is this an issue for real RS700 sailors as well? Do you think, at 230 lbs, I could make the seal entry work for me in higher winds? The thought of having to learn the athletic hurdle over the bar does not sound attractive. I foresee some face bashing into the hull whilst I try to learn that nimble technique. Just thought I'd ask.
  4. RS700 Newbie Video

    Well, it's kind of embarrassing i guess, but at 230 lbs she comes up fairly easily w/ me just standing on the gunwale. no leaning out required. :-)
  5. Pond Sailing for Practice?

    There's a number of videos showing RS Aeros sailing on very small rivers in the UK. I mean, they are seriously like a stone's throw in width. And yet those crazy Brits have regattas on these tiny rivers. So, you can certainly make it work w/ a Laser or Aero.
  6. RS700 Newbie Video

    My first time to completely turtle the RS700. Turned out not to be as scary or difficult as I thought it would be. I just took a rest on the hull, and then got to work. I was able to get her upright w/o much difficulty. I know ... I know. I need to pop the kite in 10-15 mph winds. I'll get there eventually, but I've got to work through my other fear hurdles first. One of them was the fear of completely turtling in 10-15 mph winds and not being able to get the boat back upright. Conquered that fear this weekend!
  7. Countdown to an RS700

    Kurio, you mind posting larger images? Those don't blow up any bigger. It looks like this will be SUPER useful info, but I can't quite identify the lines in that size picture. I'm assuming that the line colors are your own photoshop color editing to make things clearer (can't tell b/c picture is so small). Because my line is all just a dull grey. But thank you - this will be VERY useful once I can actually see the detail in your photo.
  8. Countdown to an RS700

    Yes. Thanks for the proper wording: "the retrieval line shock cord" system. It won't pull the slack back in so that I can pull another arm's length of halyard (either up or down). How the whole kite halyard system works is like freaking black magic. When it works it's super awesome. But when it's not sucking back in the slack, it's scary as hell! I haven't tried to figure it out, because it almost seems like I need a degree in mechanical engineering to figure out how to fix the problem (i.e. more tension on the right part to increase the suck-in-the-slack tension). Makes me kind of wish I had just two simple lines: one to raise the kite, and the other lower it, with no fancy pump system.
  9. Countdown to an RS700

    FrankC - great advice. Kurio99 - thanks for the video showing FrankC's advice in action (re dousing kite). I popped the kite this weekend. No capsizes or drama b/c the winds were only ~5-7 mph. However, one problem I experienced, both with raising and dousing the kite, is that the line kite halyard would not retract. So, while raising the kite, I'd pull up an arm's length of kite halyard, but that length wouldn't retract back into the boat. So, I'd be stuck with a flopping arm's length of halyard on the handle, which prevented me from then pulling up the next arm's length of kite halyard. Same problem with dousing the kite. I'd have to play and jiggle with the line for about 20 seconds after each arm's length pull to get the line to retract back in so that I could pull in a new arm's length of halyard. Worked out OK in 7 mph winds, but something I definitely wouldn't want to deal with in 15 mph winds. Have ya'll had experience w/ this problem?
  10. Countdown to an RS700

    Thanks for the tip. I had a feeling it would be a bad idea to attempt to capsize-recover w/ the kite still out, but I might have been tempted to still give it a go absent your dire warning. Regarding pulling down the kite from the centerboard - you can only do that when standing on the port side, right? No way you could ever reach the pull-down-line from standing on the centerboard on starboard side, right? I'm thinking in that case, I would just get the boat back to a position with mast level with the water, jump back into the water, and try to pull the kite in before the boat inverted again.
  11. Countdown to an RS700

    Hey Kurio99 - it's #6 above that makes me nervous. This weekend I'm headed down to Corpus Christi. Ordinarily, I sail my Aero down there b/c the winds are usually > 15 mph. But this weekend the forecast is 5-10 mph winds. So I'm going to take the RS700 down and give it a go in Corpus Christi Bay. If I'm feeling frisky, I'll pop the kite and try some deliberate capsize recoveries!
  12. Countdown to an RS700

    I just want to say that you guys on the RS700 facebook page have been FREAKING AWESOME!!! All along the way, you all have offered key, tactical advice that has helped me along my way. Most recently, ya'll suggested that I start trapezing from a standing position, rather than from a sitting position (which is what I was doing and which was causing me problems). That piece of advice right there fixed me all up, and allowed me to get out on trap in a much more calm and controlled fashion. You guys/gals are THE BOMB!!!! Thanks Jerry!!!!!!! And just so you Brits know - it's not that I never wanted any advice or help. It's that Texas, compared to the UK, is a sailing wasteland, especially w/ regard to dinghy sailing, and even more so w/ respect to skiff sailing. In the UK, it sounds like you can't throw a rock w/o hitting a sailing club. Sailing, and in particular dinghy sailing, seems woven into the social fabric over there in the UK. But here in Texas, if you want to learn something like the RS700, you've basically got to learn it on your own w/ some online guidance from the Brits! I think some people just don't understand the radically different situation here in Texas.
  13. RS700 Fleets in NA?

    So, one in San Antonio, and one in Toronto. Hopefully a few in-between!
  14. Countdown to an RS700

    FrankC: Regarding the spinnaker, I've popped it a few times, but only when the wind is 5 mph or less. Until I get very confident with trapezing upwind with just the mainsail, I don't plan to raise the spinnaker in any conditions that would require me to trapeze w/ the spinnaker.
  15. Countdown to an RS700

    FrankC: I *WAS* hard on myself, because of unwarranted killjoy guidance from various killjoys in this thread. I almost didn't buy the damn boat because so many experts on this thread made it seem like I was an irresponsible buffoon for contemplating learning how to sail this boat on my own, without coaching or rib boat support (despite my numerous safety precautions which I emphasized over and over and over again). So, now that I see that all of their killjoy guidance was absolutely bunk, I'm not hard on myself at all. I'm having a freaking blast. I've never been more motivated to work out in the gym even harder and get even more fit. Yes, the RS700 is hard. But it's not some spaceship from planet Vultron. An ordinary sailor who feels confident, to the point of boredom, in a Laser can learn to sail this thing on his own, without a coach, and without a rib boat in constant support position. I don't mean he/she can learn to sail it well, but he/she can learn to sail it well enough to have a bunch of fun. I mean, look at this advice that someone upthread was offering (quoted below). It's nonsensical! And it's advice like this that makes people so scared to try out a new boat like this. So, I just wanted everyone to know: yes, it's a hard boat that should be taken seriously. But if you've got my level of skill in a Laser/Aero (look at my vids), and my level of fitness, then there is absolutely nothing unreasonably dangerous about buying an RS700 for yourself and learning the boat on your own at your local inland lake (taking all the precautions that I mentioned). QUOTED ADVICE [and yes - i've been out in 10-15 mph winds and handled it fine - I should have taken his bet!!!!] "I seriously feel like I am being a total arsehole, but I mean everything I say with the best intentions. You seem to have no idea at all about what a dangerous situation you are putting yourself in. I have seen reasonably skilled and experienced sailors get into significant problems with this type of boat and needing rescuing. People have died from getting caught up in a capsized boat of this sort. I am not saying you cannot get to the point you can sail a 700 relatively safely, but based on your videos both in a hiking boat and the one I saw of you trapezing, you are not ready for this boat. When you first get the boat, to sail it without rescue support is simply insanity. I would bet a fairly reasonable sum of money that without some proper training beforehand, if you sail a 700 with your present level of skill, you will need rescue support the first time you sail in any proper breeze (yes, you will be Ok in less than 6-7 knots) To try to put it into perspective - if a Laser Vago single handed is a 3 in difficulty, the 700 is about a 7-8. Besides the skill level needed, I don't think you have a clue about how much physical effort it takes to get a boat like that up, particularly if you have capsized with the kite up and it has turtled, which they do. You owe it to your wife and family to get this right and your plan at the moment is nothing more than hoping for the best, which doesn't cut it. I know it is your dream, but you need to make it happen in a responsible manner."