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  1. Coolboats to admire

    Shields. Olin Stephens design from the early 60s. The most beautiful boat on the planet, IMHO.
  2. My Next Boat

    Bob, I agree; the 39 is gorgeous. I lusted after one ever since I sailed on Pachena years ago. I looked at one before I got the 40. But my cruise director put the kibosh on it because the layout was too chopped up. It would be great for racing with a pile of crew, but not so much for a couple cruising. It almost broke my heart to walk away from it but she was right.
  3. Perry Sliver Class Day Sailor

    Kim, one of the things you're doing with this boat that I love is painting the bilges gloss white. I love that look! And I love the look of the rest of the boat, too. But then I've been a fan of Bob's designs since Heather was launched.
  4. My Next Boat

    I had your problem a few months ago and settled on a C&C 40. I seriously considered the Cal 40 (and 36) for the reasons you outline, but I like the C&C's layout better. And I love the way she looks; an important consideration! I think there's a nice one for sale in West Van, now. I think they can be had for pretty short money. The downside of the boat is that it can be a bit squirrelly in big breeze with the kite up. But I'm mostly cruising so I won't be flying a kite in big breeze. A good survey, as always, is a must.
  5. Uglyboat Admiration Society Hang Out

    Storm was a different boat from Stormy. I brought Stormy down to Ft Lauderdale to sell in 1984 and found a slip on Isle of Venice. Pulling in, what should I see, but Storm, two slips down. Eventually my old pal Fang sold Stormy to a nephew of Brunzeel's who put a fake modern transom on the boat and painted her bright orange and blue. I've lost track of her now, but she was a fabulous boat to sail. A bit of trivia; with Scott Roher aboard, she was the last ketch to win a race in the SORC.
  6. Uglyboat Admiration Society Hang Out

    Well, maybe my delicately honed aesthetic sense is too delicately honed. But I still contend that the bunch that designed the new Ranger got a lot wrong with the replica. For a start, the stem is wrong--Stephens and Burgess must have spent weeks just getting that profile right, given that it was such a departure from the norm--and the designers then gave it too much freeboard forward so the boat looks like it wants to pop a wheelie. And on top of all that they painted the stripes brown. What kind of color is brown for a yacht like that? They had access to the original lines. I wish they'd just stuck with those.
  7. Uglyboat Admiration Society Hang Out

    Jeez! As I was posting that I said to myself, "Bob probably agrees with me on this."
  8. Uglyboat Admiration Society Hang Out

    The J Class Ranger replica. I've looked and looked at it and they messed it up. It definitely does not have the same appearance as the original. They changed the freeboard and some other stuff and turned a magnificent and handsome boat into an ugly one. It hurts my eyes every time I look at it.